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BNP and Special Branch - Partners In Crime?

CAF | 20.08.2009 17:39 | Animal Liberation | Anti-racism | Sheffield

How annoying the fash in Barnsley seems to have annoyed the guardians of the state too.

In an earlier post attempts by the BNP to carry out reprisal attacks for alleged property damage inflicted on their members in Barnsley were detailed. In case you were wondering how this had come about this is the almost full story. Some details have been kept back as intelligence gathering is always ongoing and sources have to be protected. Among other things it details evidence of two state agents, one working in Sheffield BNP and one in the South Yorkshire animal rights movement.

The story starts in late 2007 when two attacks were made on the BNP stall in Barnsley town centre. The first was a spur of the moment job that led to the perpetrators being nicked and done and having their details put on Redwatch. The second was a bit more organised and resulted in the fash having their papers nicked and stall trashed. Half the papers were thrown away round the corner and half ended up in a recycling bin in Sheffield. A picture of the aftermath of one of these attacks adorns the home page of the antifa website. Instead of relying on the forces of law and order to track down the culprits for the second attack, the BNP instead got CCTV pictures of the attackers and circulated them among their members in Barnsley, Sheffield and elsewhere.

Five months after the second attack, in May 2008, the BNP fielded candidates in every Barnsley ward but one at the council elections. Their realistic chances of getting someone elected were sabotaged a week before the election when one of their candidates, Simon Goodricke, was exposed as a bent ex-copper by the local weekly, the Barnsley Chronicle, who were acting on a tip-off from Searchlight. He obviously hadn’t mentioned this at his selection meeting. He ended up getting the lowest BNP vote in Barnsley but almost certainly cost other BNP candidates votes and seats.

A month later a campaign of “anti-fascist communications” began against the BNP candidates and known supporters. These “anti-fascist communications” involved practical suggestions of ideas for redecoration of cars, vans, doors, windows, walls, garages, paths, etc, as well as occasional murals involving the letters B, N, P, S, C, U and M, together with a well-known symbol which first became common among Eastern religions and then known worldwide thanks to an infamous Austrian psychopath in the first half of the 20th century. The campaign went on over the summer months and into the autumn of 2008.

The first sign that the campaign of “anti-fascist communications” was having a positive effect came in October when an email purporting to come from ex-copper, and now ex-member of the master race, Goodricke was sent to an anti-fascist organisation inviting the recipients to come and have a go if they thought they were hard enough. Unfortunately the recipients had no idea what it was about. It had been sent to the wrong people but at least one person took it at face value and wanted to round up a posse.

In fact not only did it reach the wrong people it wasn’t even Goodricke who had sent it. It was sent by other BNP members in Barnsley concerned that if their 2008 candidates were all going to get hit then Goodricke should be included too. Sadly for them a decision had already been taken that as Goodricke was the kind of fascist this country desperately needs i.e. one who costs the BNP votes and seats, he would be left alone. If they want him done they’ll have to do him themselves.

Other signs of annoyance included a BNP candidate near Barnsley town centre who took to sitting outside the pub opposite his home on cold December nights to keep an eye on his property. He’d by now been done twice and his anger was probably made even sharper by an anonymous email that had been sent to his employer, a carpet company in Huddersfield, informing them of his political allegiances. Such vigilance didn’t prevent a third attack a few months later. Just as sad was the member in Thurnscoe who could be seen looking out for his Range Rover through his front bedroom window after midnight. Again such vigilance failed to protect his property rights. Well, don’t park it on your front drive. Others have had CCTV installed.

Another tactic some BNP members were advised to adopt was to make it look like they were up and about in the early hours, by leaving the lights on after going to bed. The idea was to deter “anti-fascist communications” by giving the impression that someone might look out of the window at any moment and see what was going on. Unfortunately for them a tip-off had already been received about this and some were hit regardless. Some weren’t though so that they were left to run up big electricity bills before being communicated to later. Other members however didn’t receive this advice because there is a hierarchy within the membership, those forewarned and those not. A separate list was kept of the forewarned. Presumably these are the chosen few. And chosen again they will be. The others, the lesser mortals, may be aggrieved to learn about this hierarchy and that they’re not considered worthy to be warned about possible attacks.

By now the 2007 membership list had been leaked and progress shot ahead. The list betrayed the fact that many of the 2008 council candidates weren’t members in 2007, suggesting the BNP were fielding a lot of paper candidates who hadn’t been vetted properly. Hence Goodricke. This in turn would suggest that the BNP membership has a large soft underbelly of commitment. Something to test though and that testing went ahead all over town – from Royston in the north to Hoyland in the south and from Thurnscoe in the east to Penistone in the west.

Visits to their homes suggest that in general they’re a middle-class bunch. Few live on council estates and those that do tend to live in ex-council houses that have been bought. The two areas where they are strong are in Bolton-upon-Dearne and Goldthorpe in the east, and Barugh Green on the north west of town. Both areas have their local BNP pub, the Collingwood and Spencers Arms respectively. The Barnsley organiser lives in Barugh Green. He has been a good source of intelligence, allowing himself to be easily followed round so that addresses not already known can be identified. If you live in Barugh Green and are wondering how your far-right affiliations recently came to light, wonder no more. Thank your local organiser’s lack of discretion.

Barnsley BNP members live in some lovely houses. Someone should do a leaflet showing their wealth. The hoi polloi might think twice about voting for them. Their most favourite vehicle is the Range Rover (now Indian of course) but a family in Wortley goes in for Land Rovers in a big way. They could invade Poland on their own. You get the feeling that if they lived anywhere else they’d be old-fashioned Monday Club Tories, but Conservativism isn’t very popular in Barnsley.

Back to the BNP’s hunt to track down their person of local knowledge. While the campaign was in full swing a few attempts were made to follow the person they considered the local snitch. One failed when the follower couldn’t decide whether he wanted a single or return ticket at the railway station and anyway he’d already been seen on their stall so was known. Another made the mistake of ignoring the number one rule that you should walk behind and not in front of the person you’re supposed to be tailing. And another failed because he wore white shoes – twice – which made him stand out a mile. If you’re going to wear white shoes make sure it’s snowing. More on white shoes later.

The BNP finally made its breakthrough by using the BBC website and some email hacking but still couldn’t lay a finger on their target. Barnsley members had been instructed not to confront him if seen in the street but pass on intelligence instead. The job to implement the reprisals was passed on to a group of Sheffield boneheads who we can label Keystone Hit Squad so incompetent have they proved to be. KHS have fucked up a few times. One attempted ambush outside Sharrow Junior School in Sheffield on May 22nd failed due to appalling incompetence and a tip-off. A few words of advice. First, don’t sit in cars outside a school with which you have no connections or you might be mistaken for paedophiles. Second don’t send Dopey out spotting on his tricycle, especially in his white baseball cap. The only injury the intended target will receive will be when he falls over laughing. And third you’re supposed to keep an eye out for your target or he’ll breeze straight past, as in fact did happen, helped as he was by a warning of what was planned for him. Other attempts included a failed break-in caught on CCTV at 3.15am on Monday 4th May. The idiot left DNA on a door handle too.

By now though a third party had entered the fray. A visit had been made to north Sheffield to make a polite request to a senior BNP member to call off the goons. Man in north Sheffield was already known to be Special Branch’s eyes and ears in Sheffield BNP and instead of calling off the goons he instead called in his SB minder who tried to get confirmation of who was doing all this.

SB in turn roped in Man In Doncaster, someone active in animal rights and who had played a supporting role in the second attack on the Barnsley stall in 2007. Man in Doncaster passed a name and number back to SB. Man in Doncaster’s commitment to anti-fascism was already under question after he had deliberately sabotaged a planned "anti-fascist communication" in Sheffield a year earlier with an excuse so feeble it would have blown away in the summer breeze. Unlike Man in Doncaster no name will be passed on here. Just to say that sometime in future he will be asked to explain his treachery. In the meantime South Yorkshire Hunt Sabs are advised to get a new driver.

So now there is the problem of working out who the different stalkers belong to, SB or the BNP. White shoes, who was seen boarding a coach at London Victoria at 6pm on Wednesday 27th May 2009 and getting off at Sheffield Interchange 4 hours later, a journey he only made after an email was hacked, before getting on his mobile to say prey is on the way, is definite BNP. He wore a brown leather jacket, light blue jeans and carried a blue and orange bag and sat at the back of the coach just in front of the toilet appropriately. Again a tip-off had been received. He needs a crash course in stalking and was caught on CCTV and Sheffield BNP needs to instil some discipline in its members.

SB stalkers tend to be smoother and go out of their way to be spotted. The one in Norton Lees in early June, in mid-July in the city centre (an appearance only facilitated by a second email address being hacked – naughty boys) and in late July pretending to do a bit of window-shopping in Sharrow are SB.

They were obviously angry about Man In North Sheffield being exposed as SB in an earlier post. They must be fucking furious now that their animal rights mole has been unearthed too. The BNP ones are the ones who give themselves away through incompetence or by desperately trying not to give themselves away. Like the one outside Oakwell before the Man City game on the corner of Grove Street and Grasmere Road. Your photo’s already done the rounds, baldy. Other spotters are known about in advance after tip-offs.

All this begs the question as to what SB is up to. It’s known that they are particularly interested in gathering intelligence on the anarchist wing of anti-fascism. Their BNP operatives are known to have legal immunity so does SB think there isn’t enough violence in Sheffield as it is with all the shootings and stabbings? Are they setting the BNP up? Are they trying to get the BNP to do their dirty work for them? Do they think that showing their faces to anti-fascists is going to deter "anti-fascist communications"? Are they sharing intelligence with the fash? They have certainly shared photographs with the BNP and seem happy that their man in Sheffield is authorising violent assaults.

SB is getting into bed with people who are already known to have used CCTV pictures for illegal purposes, tried breaking and entering, solicited a violent assault on an ex-member (charming), conspiracy to commit possible GBH, computer hacking, etc, and they have done some hacking themselves. All this and the BNP is useless at settling its scores anyway. When the moment comes the spotter runs off to get his mates by which time the intended victim has strolled away. Tough guys eh.

The BNP itself has even set up a hotline in Sheffield so that any fash spotting their intended target can phone in. One young chav did so from Hillsborough in late July. A week later another fash was on the phone in the middle of Furnival Gate in the city centre and was told to follow his man and find out what was hidden in the anti-fascist’s bag. They’re obviously worried about weapons. Fash tried to do his job but within seconds his target had already been tipped off before the time fash got to Sainsbury’s, picked up half a dozen items without getting a basket but failed to have a look in his target’s bag while standing behind him in the queue. How do you think we know about these calls, fash? Have a fucking guess. And if it’s weapons the BNP is worried about it should just ask itself if it thinks known militant anti-fascists are likely to walk round unprepared.

The “anti-fascist communicating” goes on regardless. To date 103 separate “communications” have been made to 93 different BNP targets across Barnsley. Three have been hit three times, four twice and the rest once. No set pattern is involved. Different days of the week and times of night are chosen. Flexibility is paramount to prevent communications being predicted. One communication in Bolton-upon-Dearne was even delayed by a month when a tip-off came that a new-born baby had just arrived. And you may think militant anti-fascism is just a cruel business.

The 2007 membership list is already getting out of date. At least two members have moved and two others had their houses up for sale last winter. So they were moved up the housing list. Who says the indigenous population doesn’t get priority housing treatment? To prepare for the future, intelligence is already being gathered on supporters who have signed the BNP’s nomination papers in the past. One of these has the name of an ex-Football League referee who is a bit of a pillar of the local sports establishment – the cricket club and FA. Anti-fascist Newcastle United fans will remember his exploits in the 80s.

Another supporter who signed the BNP’s nomination papers in Royston has a pathological inability to walk past a motorcycle without nicking it, a habit that may or may not be related to his older brother’s second-hand motorcycle business near Barnsley town centre. His younger brother would nick the fresh air from your lungs. BNP supporter in Royston is best known for losing his virginity literally to the girl next door who used to crawl through the loft into his bedroom until part of her went through the ceiling thus bringing to an end their secret nights of lust. Such was teenage passion in Barnsley in the 1970s. His right-wing politics may have been inherited from his parents, former regulars at Barnsley Conservative Club. Maybe they forgot to pass on the bit about law and order. These details aren’t given to take the piss, but to show just how much information can be got about them.

At the forthcoming St Helen’s bye-election and next year’s council elections there will be further chances to monitor the fash and act later. We should see just how soft that underbelly is and how many of them will be willing to show themselves publicly as BNP members after two years of being dissuaded of the merits of fascism. Anti-fascists should beware of the police though. SB are monitoring and think they know who they’re looking for. On at least one occasion police in Barnsley contacted Sheffield police with a warning to intercept. But if there’s one thing easier to spot than someone wearing white shoes it’s a big white police car outside where you live. The police are looking to build up their database on militant anti-fascists. But avoiding and outwitting them is just one of the many pleasures to be had in taking on the BNP.

There will be no response by CAF to this article. The utmost priority is to protect sources and the fash and their state allies will try to draw them out. There is a good network of informers across Barnsley who will provide intelligence, other contacts, material help and practical support in carrying out "anti-fascist communications". These people include friends, neighbours, work colleagues and even relatives of BNP members so discretion is called for. In Barnsley everyone knows a lot about someone else and it is this that helps find out about such as how some low-life criminal lost his virginity over thirty years ago or who stays up late looking after his vehicle or sits outside the pub opposite to keep an eye on his property or who operates a phone line aimed at facilitating an assault or who is the SB informer or who has circulated photos. The BNP leaks like the proverbial sieve. Militant anti-fascism is always one step ahead.


CAF

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Great report

20.08.2009 20:29

Lots of info here for Yorkshire antifascists. Nice for one mentioning about the South Yorkshire hunt sabs driver being an infiltrator. I'm not from Yorks but am sure that this will be checked out if it hasn't been already. Animal liberationists are always overtly cautious/paranoid about infiltration which is all too common.

Keep up the good work. Solidarity from the South.

Militant Antispeciesist


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So sad

20.08.2009 20:41

The anti fascists in Barnsley have informers within.
No secret, the reason why so many have got out.
Anyone who has been involved will recognise the person who has wrote this story, including the police.
Why on earth would they put all this on public view for the police to read?
Think about it.

Harry


spades

20.08.2009 21:29

wows its like reading about the french resistance. You lot really have exciting lives

gimbo


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Load of crap

20.08.2009 22:21

You seem to have read a lot about the attacks on Barnsley BNP members cars and homes but you forgot about the silly twats using the same paint for all there cowardly attacks and the fact one of our memebers got a real good look of two of them on cctv including the people carrier they were in so it wont be long before these two get a visit.
Back in 1984/85 I was on strike 'Miner' fighting to save our jobs towns and villages so fighting you scum will be a walk in the park bring it on with all your scum mates.

Barnsley-Bill


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good times

20.08.2009 23:13

Perhaps we'll get back to the good old days. A rally cry of "Break their bones!" as we wade through of crowd of lefties. Theres nothing like treading over your tooth-spitting fallen marxist foe as they plead "this is not possible"

justice


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caf I suppose you agree with this eh

21.08.2009 01:09

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1294021.stm

all antifash 'one day you will pay for your crimes

Barnsley-Bill


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These Terrible racist attacks

21.08.2009 03:54

Sorry about the previous post. Must have been my genuine UDM Miners hat has been too tight lately.

That BBC link before - turned out it was not a racist attack. But these were:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8186978.stm
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/8147157.stm
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_8110000/newsid_8114900/8114995.stm
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/8167747.stm


Since none of these happened in Yorkshire I can hold my UDM Head High.

Burnsley Bill


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Fantasy

21.08.2009 07:59

What a load of dickheads, when you go back to school you won't have time for all this nonsense!

Fantasy Fred


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HAHA

21.08.2009 12:27

You can delete the comments against you but the fact remains.

caf carry on bluetooth hacking phones and pretending your james bond the BNP in Barnsley have a really good surprise waiting for the cowardly anitfash that like painting in the small hours and our town centre paper sales thrive when the great unwashed turn up so why not get all your sheff scum to pay us a visit id love to educate you.

Barnsley-Bill


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antifash hero

21.08.2009 13:33

Mark wallis aka mozaz

Barnsley-Bill


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Hit a nerve have I caf

21.08.2009 18:53

mark willis aka mozaz will pay for this and squeal like a pig on all his scum mates 'time for a pint or two in sheffield I think.
the can of worms you have opened up is going to cost you dear you fooker threw paint over my car even though I wasnt a BNP member then so as I see it its an eye for an eye.

Barnsley-Bill


Top show!

21.08.2009 19:02

You northern bastards have really got your shit together, very impressed indeed! Inspirational some may say. Keep fighting the good fight.

Nazi Hunter


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Obvious who wrote this

22.08.2009 23:53

So its the Harris and Charlesworth bandshow back on the road is it.You had a warning Charlesworth/Kaye or whatever you call yourself now.You were told to back off and crawl into your hole.We see you are out once more scurrying around in the shadows with your mongoloid arsebandit mate causing shit again.Well remembers this queerbait,what goes around comes around and its coming to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is obvious what this passage relates to and who wrote it and the glaringly obvious over riding fact that you know fuck all.You have no informers you are just picking at bits of gossip that you hear on the grapevine and most of it you have wrong. If you want to expose people on the net then name and shame them.Why only use one name here when you refer to many?
Is it because you dont really want to say to much because you dont know to much? As for the utter crap and seethrough red herrings littered amongst this piece to poorly veil your identity I would have more respect for the readers.
You want a war you cannot win?you want to take us on?Do you think you can handle the shit that comes with it,to your work your personal and family life?
Well strap yourself in and hold on tight for now you have unleashed the worst fucking nightmare upon yourself you could ever envisage.
When you can take no more and you feel remorse and regret for your actions and the destruction of innocent lives then think back to this line.
When you had the opportunity to walk away you didnt,when you had the freedom of choice to leave well alone you didnt,did you make the right choice in penning this piece,YOU DIDNT!
Those shadows will never be dark enough for you to hide exposure is an understatement!!

Ratcatcher19


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to catch a rat

23.08.2009 15:04

Dont worry mate the rats will sqweel very very soon then its pay back time and see how they fucking like it.
One name I have been given has all ready gone into hiding like chiny has but they will turn up shortly i'm sure.;)

Barnsley-Bill


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They are squeeling

23.08.2009 16:05

Hi Bill
We have three names already and by the end of the week we will have the rest. Enough is enough and people really dont know when to leave well alone.This time there will be consequences there will be exposure and there will be retribution.Watch this space for some rather interesting facts about homosexuality/sexual assault/informants and the best of all/exposing the rat in Barnsley who knows we are getting close and is still there tucked away yet saying nothing because they are bricking it and are to shit scared to fucking breath at the moment

Ratcatcher19


infultrators

24.08.2009 14:20

you refer to a previous post about a man in Sheffield, link?
and on what evidence do you think the hunt sab driver is a spy?

sab


runing scared

24.08.2009 17:21

He's no proof Just posting bullshit and deleting post's that's against his thread but I have a very good source 'not in the BNP' who will finger this twat in the next few days then we will see how he likes it thats if he dosent go to ground like two who were named on htis thread have.
I will have to have a camera when we meet up with him just for the look on his face which I will post here before and after :).

Barnsley-Bill


Hohoho

24.08.2009 19:40

Getting a little worried are we fellas? So worried that you have to remove responses.Well dont worry because as they said in the film
'Ill make you famous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'
If you think by deleting responses you will stop this you have no fucking clue. You really have pissed people off this time and gone to far. As mentioned,what goes around comes around and take cover fuckwits because we are coming.
Good to see you have backed up what we already knew about you,that you knew fuck all and were clutching at straws. You have no informants and you have no information on individuals otherwise you would have named them.No problem because we will do that for you.We will name and shame you.
We will prove how one of you is a practising homosexual and we have photographic evidence.
We will prove that you have been accused and did a deal to get let off a sexual assault.
We will prove who the real informants are and who their handlers are,again photos and tapes will become available.
We will fuck you up as you have tried to fuck others.I hope your friends and family bonds are strong because by the time we have finished with you,exposing your filth and sleaze you wont even be able to look in the mirror without feeling shame,you will not be able to go to work because you will havce been dismissed.Doesnt count for one of you who has no job.
So in six days time google your own names and watch the credits roll.
Remember you had the chance to walk and you chose not to. You thought you could outsmart us but as you do not know how many we are,the contacts and informants we have and the evidence we already have against you I would categorise your position as swimming in a pool of shit.
Have a nice day,till Sunday tutteebye X

ratcatcher19


Some urban paranoia then..(if you have a lesson to teach me)

25.08.2009 10:52

I hope my doubts are proven not right regards this article, I have an idea of who wrote it and there reasons for doing so are crass in the least, we folded underclassrising as a political front decided
it was the end of the day that pampering to the far right far left and anarchist was just self indulgent
attention seeking for us, also them we desire neither, the fact indymedia have not removed said article proves an ongoing point there is no desire to publish the truth but what is to be expected if you look into who are involved, there urban paranoia speaks for itself.

There are a multitude of thoughts/paranoia about the sudden rise of the far right how much the Secret State is involved, who is working for them and so forth, but we negate one serious fact in all of this the self indulgent politcal fronts are just that, there no real threat to the status quo so when the middle class play the game of propaganda along with hype over there plans for this years climate camp it just that, the same with the far right, now we have the farce of Hope Not Hate calling for bans, and getting them, and we need to remember what sect Nick Lowes was active with when he was a student in Sheffield, yes Alliance for Workers Liberty, the same sect an indymedia administrator was active in at the same time, in fact he was good mates with him. The banning of protest is just what the far right want and there right in this respect if you are for liberty and freedom then banning them is not liberty and freedom it is what there about.

No liberty and freedom is about debate having a conversation with people you disagree with, we agree no platform but as it stands now such arguments are crass if somewhat a little false, at the end of the day it is all propaganda lies misinformation, just as this aritcal is and the comments made following, Mark Mozaz Wallis has no administrate for indymedia, I have not been active with any politcal fronts, I dislike them as much as those adding the comments also I very much disagree with them been hidden, the whole article should be hidden, because if read you would understand it is nothing more than disinformation, if you look at the IMC Moderation list you will find ive had articles and comments hidden often.

Those involved with underclassrising have moved on, perhaps CAF along with others need to also move on, all they have done is fed the urban paranoia of people, there is nothing constructive or positive about there actions, just more idle gossip it would be right and proper to ask them to substantiate there rant, with names of people, I know indymedia would remove such an article agreed, but there are blogs, so if there is any truth in this article then I also ask they stand up to be counted, freedom of speech is fine but when the dumb are given such rights here is where it ends.

Those who have no active involvement are placed at risk other than getting all hyped up, latter thinking what the fuck was I doing at such an event, such a meeting, it was nothing more than vanity and self importance if I was to be asked in the cold light of day.

If I was asked about the rise of the far right, it just the same as the far left anarchist and those involved with climate camp, there concerns are real agreed but it is nothing more than self indulgent attention seeking for there own weakness, it is the working class they proclaim to be the vanguard off are the very people there attacking, one is openly classiest because the middle class offer nothing to the working class, one is anti racist as I will not attack my own class for the problems of capitalism of which immigration is, I welcome diversity constructive debate and critique but you are not going to get such with any of the self proclaimed vanguard of the working class, they offer us nothing but a continuation of the same shit, I desire true freedom and liberty.

If CAF and others understand there politics a little more, you would understand one fact the birth of the current political climate was from real concern over the very real rise of the far left in The 1930 this is where the state began to infiltrate, it had some real and just concerns, such an active political movement was not what they desired even wanted, it had plans of there own, and the way things are you can not speak of the truth because following these events, to be openly critical raise doubts over events and the specture of truth or debate, you are under suspicion of being a person you are not, it is the same when the working class ask raise doubts about the lack equilibrium over immigration, there told there racist, time again I have pointed out the lack of synergy in the arguments of the far left and time again they have attacked the working class, when one off that class has a clear understanding of the politics of there own class struggle, why the state needs an underclass, the omnipresent word paranoia looms it,s ugly fucking head, has it not been worked out, urban paranoia, pretentious artist collectable anorak.

I have a clear understanding of the class struggle where I stand in the current order, lets all play master and servant, well some of you might desire the continuation of the current order, as a person who has read and talked also understand the nature of where we are, it nothing more than self indulgent attention seeking, a real threat to the state of things would be a self organised militant working class, for a while we had class war, but here is not the debate of where it fucked up but issue 73 was about right, all we have had from then to now is the far left in 1997 telling us vote Labour with no illusions

Some had no fucking illusions and was calling for a no vote, as a protest agreed, but there has been moments in history where there has been real opportunity of building a real class struggle from the 1930,s to the Poll Tax riots of 1991 and the following day The riots of Strangways, in this year we remember the grate strike of 1984, in the face of opportunity the far left have sold the working class out, now you fucking ponder why they are going to the far right, we might agree on fact there racist scum, we will disagree on this fact they have some real bollocks, now we might disagree more? there telling the truth of where life in the current order is at for the working class, now agreed we never been good at been told we might have got it wrong from 1930 to the present the left have offer nothing but fucking subjugation to capitalism.

The simple truth CAF is the state has always infiltrated those who are in opposition to it, if they can not infiltrate then they spread lies and misinformation, through people like yourself, you have offered nothing constructive to the table, in fact I rember not giving you an invite, all you have done is create more urban paranoia and misinformation there is nothing constructive in your article at all, one is open to debate and conversation, this said only with people who are willing to understand we need a self organised militant working class, ready for the real class war where we make the middle class history.

M M Wallis:


Is this really going to beat the BNP?

25.08.2009 14:21

The real battle is on the doorstep isn't it? Their politics versus ours , that what people vote for at the end of the day.

Robert Fleming


PEACE & ANARCHY!

26.08.2009 08:27

I shall blow up your buildings a little more and be less open with you than I was before. I wish we all truly wanted to change this cesspool we live in. [sic] And, sir, to say because a man pleads that every man hath a voice by right of nature, that therefore it destroys by the same argument all property [sic]. That there’s a property, the Law of God says it; else why hath God made that law, Thou shalt not steal? I am a poor man, therefore I must be oppressed: if I have no interest in the kingdom, I must suffer by all their laws be they right or wrong. Nay thus: a gentleman lives in a country and hath three or four lordships, as some men have (God knows how they got them); and when a Parliament is called he must be a Parliament-man; and it may be he sees some poor men, they live near this man, he can crush them – I have known an invasion to make sure he hath turned the poor men out of doors; and I would fain know whether the potency of rich men do not this, and so keep them under the greatest and your sister too tyranny that was ever thought of in the world. And therefore I think that to that it is fully answered: God hath set down that thing as to propriety with this law of his, Thou shalt not steal. And for my part I am against any such thought, and, as for yourselves, I wish you would not make the world believe that we are NOT for anarchy BECAUSE WE ARE. NOW LET THE WORLD REST IN PEACE AND ANARCHY!

T Rainsborough:


Give the police bigger sticks

27.08.2009 09:52

I bet the long winter evenings fly by in your house............I think you need to get out more mate.

Barnsley-Bill


Oi KNOB

27.08.2009 23:29

Rainsborough you really are a fucking knob!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ratcatcher19


South Yorks Hunt Sabs

02.09.2009 10:29

This interesting piece contains a serious allegation against a long-standing animal rights activist, namely South Yorks Hunt Sabs' driver. It's surprising that there have not been any comments about this. Perhaps someone from the group would clarify their position on this. Or bearing in mind that CAF have effectively named this person as a snitch, they would like to say more?

Confused


The Truth is out there

12.09.2009 13:22

CAF, we have just read your article after being directed to it by a disgruntled group of people. Some of the information you give is unfounded lies. For example, you try to destroy the character of a dedicated animal rights activist who we have know for many years and for what? Once letting you down for an action. You hide like a coward behind your anonymity whilst trying to draw people in to your deranged conspiracy theory.
You also implicate this individual in crimes of affray and criminal damage which we feel makes you the grass.
Instead of trying to fight against those on the same side you should put of your middle class energy into fighting the real enemy.
We know who you are and will be challenging you face to face at the first opportunity we get.
Would it not have been wise to face this man in Doncaster with your allegations before putting your accusations onto Indymedia.A persons incredible reputation as been bought into question now just because of your hysterical outburts. Fortunately,we have not yet spoken to anyone who actually believes this crap, it is after all totally lacking in substance. Maybe it will come back to bite you.

A long serving Sab


The rantings of a lunatic

12.09.2009 16:27

I have to agree with the above sabs comment. I also know the guy who CAF is insinuating is an infiltrator. He has dedicated years to fighting what he believes in and I have been with him on many of such occassions.What a load of bollox.
Saying that, I once attended a meeting chaired by CAF which was full of ambiguity and misinformation, I walked out in disguist, not suprised my mate 'let 'em down.Fotunately I found a group down here who know what they are doing and so the fight continues.
I suggest CAF gets a grip.......asap

Animal Rights supporter - London


I had nothing to do with this!

13.09.2009 10:11

I've been made aware that certain people implicated in that article think that I am responsible for writing it. This is not true, at all! I did not write this article, nor do I think the person mentioned in it is a member of special branch. I am happy to discuss who could have written it with those involved and any views I may have on its content.

JM - Sheffield Anarchist


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