the people who work there are Amacus union workers and they may be going out on strike to support their mates in bristol who have a sacked union rep see  http://indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/08/321211.html
and
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/08/321580.html
and
 http://indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/08/321867.html
and
 http://indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/08/322166.html

but of corse they can afford to go on strike cause they make good money making what they make

not clear who to register details with - not the Polizei surely?

You register with the organisers, not with the police.

It's commonplace with Trident Ploughshares actions.

I'm a Pledger with the Plymouth group, and we do this for all our open actions.

Nothing to worry about, I assure you.

Intresting site is derby peace pages and is giving some worries!

Mainly non of the contact details work; not the 0845 number, the mobile number you get when you ring the 0845 number and the emails bounce back

Now paranoia is rising, to get three contacts wrong is pretty hard.
there is also an email subscription list, could be mining potential activists details

also its not on Veggies calander, most people I know who do this type of thing put details on veggies calander, this might mean they don't want it widley known

As the phone link person, I can assure you that this is a genuine Trident Ploughshares action, and we are genuine activists. I have had some problems with my phones - which gives ME paranoid concerns - but people are getting through, so don't give up. I'll need to talk to someone else about the email address, meanwhile, try me on  alison.crane@ntlworld.com All nonviolent activists are very welcome, and advice on where to advertsie locally will be gratefully received - we are mainly from Staffordshire and Leicestershire, so please forgive our lack of local activist knowledge - we certainly want to make the links.

As the person who put the website and the email list together I would like to address your concerns.

The email address was working at last test, I've sent out a test message today to check it and if it bounces I'll take it up with my ISP.

The phone numbers are working fine for me perhaps you'd like to try them again.

The email list is to enable people to agree to the non-violence guidelines before downloading a briefing pack. People are free to create temporary webmail accounts to access the list, and may of course unsubscribe as soon as they have their briefing pack.

This is a Trident Ploughshare action supported by CND. If you would like more details feel free to email me at  spiritwingsharmony@gmail.com or at  spiritwings@wingsofspirit.co.uk

Harmony.

Thank you for raising the issue of the non working email address. After testing I discovered there was a problem which I raised with the ISP and they corrected instantly. The email address is now working again.
Thank You.
Harmony.

Apparently, there may be several people attending from Sheffield & South Yorkshire area on the 22nd, or before.
Wonder if anyone might be able to co-ordinate/supply/liaise on transport and travel for this, so that anyone and everyone who would like to attend can/is able to, do so.
Offers of help appreciated.

Solidarity.

If you haven´t already tried it, perhaps Trident Ploughshares and CND should try openning up a dialogue with the relevent Trade Unions and the workers too. I know CND are very good at this since they have good connections with Trade Unions. So perhaps what i am about to suggest is already being done, since the author above says this is a CND sponsored action.
So my apologies in advance if you are already doing hat I am about to suggest.

I would have suggested a leafletting, or information exchange first, before a blockade. A blockade is of course - no matter how much you convince yourselves that you are anon-violent group - much more on the violent side of passive-agressive; it undoubtedly provokes violence at the least. It will provoke a violent confrontation with the police, and give a confused message to the workers who manufacture and produce the engines. They might even think that you are a bit loopy, and self centred publicity seekers; which isnt the case, is it?

Many of the workers will not know that the work they do contributes to building engines that are put into sumarines by another company, and then those submarines are arrmed and fitted with Nuclear warheads by the British State. They are linked to the Nuclear program indirectly and often at the worst very tenuously.

It is the UK government that are responsible, and the managment of Rolls Royce for excepting the contract, so I should be careful not to victimise the Rolls Royce workers, because it is them whom you would want on your side, because they have the power to disrupt the manufacture of those particular engines for the new trident Program.

If you just want a bit of person publicity and to be deluded that you are doing something morally superior and effective to prevent Nuclear war then go sure go ahead, and provike some violence that will deliver a confused message but will no doubt appease the conscienes of a few middle-class protesters who lifestyle politics do not necessitate getting a manufacturing job to survive and support themselves and their famililies.


Just a note: I think Nuclear weapons are more about a means of obtaining political power. And there is also the deterence factor: that´s is deter attack from the USA. That is there is an incentive to obtain them to defend your nation against being invaded or attacked by the USA, and it buys a nation political clout, admittedly only a small amount, with the US. Inn the end US will befriend a nation if it gets nuclear weapons.

Britain mainly keeps its Nuclear weapons to give it political power, for example a seat at the top table at the UN, all of whose 5 members have nuclear weapons. Weapons give nations both the threat of delivering immemse material destructive power, but, today, and much more importantly political power. Without Nuclear weapons, britain would no longer be a permant member of the security council with veto powers, now would France.

So britain buys that power with the billions it gives to th US for Trident missiles.