Some of the EDL are out-and-out neo-Nazis. It's true that many of the rank and file are just "useful idiots" to neo-Nazis and Zionists, like football hooligans. Also Zionism has the idea of racial purity and the chosen people, like Nazism did.

The people with the Israeli flag were either just Zionists using the EDL for their own purposes, or else they were common garden fascists (who are probably antisemitic themselves) using it because they know if will annoy Muslims.

Unfortunately its not the first time, see

 http://www.inminds.co.uk/qudsday2009.php#counterdemo

Racism attracts racists, so the EDL are natural supporters of Zionism.

No supporter of the EDL, but Dexter is a SWP/UAF member, and the usual guff about the EDL being nazis (though some are) is inserted in a post ostensibly about a Palestine protest, any attack on innocent people should be opposed, but it basically becomes an advert for UAF/SWP,

always look a bit deeper where the SWP are involved.

Do you have any more information on the nature of this confrontation? What were the chants of the opposition? Was this explicitly an EDL mobilisation? Did they sound like they were local lads? What was the nature of the assault? Was an arrest made? etc. Cheers.

In the link posted there is a picture of these people waving an Israeli flag. Now, I think they're morons and I'm sure they were purely doing it to wind up the muslim protesters and kick up a fight but Nazis don't wave Israeli flags.

Also, you claim they're EDL.. Where are their accessories (flags, sweaters, facemasks etc) that the EDL are so keen on? I think the EDL are knuckle dragging goons of the highest order but there's no evidence that these people are EDL. I also think it's quite clear they aren't Nazis, even if they are fuckwits.

Using such language makes you look like a bit of a tit.


"The anti-hypocracy [sic] league" Said:

"if Israel was not a Jewish state then you people would not give a damn about what Israel does. "

It's nothing to do with whether it's a Jewish state or not, that's a very childish and fingerpointing way of looking at things and stinks of either a) paranoia or b) using unfounded accusations of antisemitism to defend the indefensible.

For fuck's sake enough!

Will you middle class arsewits all stop arguing about the EDL, and what/who they are, are they fascist, patriot, nazi etc.
"What is the specific nature of their existence?" - this isn't a poncey university fucking debating society for fuck's sake!

Who cares?

What the EDL are is a threat. They are racist, ignorant bigots. They are scapegoating Muslim communities like Hitler scapegoated the Jews. They are the useful idiots of rich bastards like Alan Lake. They are dividing the Working Class.

They are now starting to attack anti-bigotry protests (albeit soft targets, fucking cowards) and they have to be stopped!

So stop the debating and get out on the streets.

In my home town, on the main street,UAF and the SWP are always getting little sixteen year old boys to shout at people about things that they have very little knowledge of in the first place - usually with the most gigantic megaphone they can find!!!!

I am on 'the left' (whatever that means when students like you lot hog the lime light all the time) and I go bright red (seriously!) when I see you on the streets pissing everyone off and fundamentally winning NOONE over to your point of view (whatever that is, liberalism as far as I can make out!).....

You lot should really try and understand the dynamic of things at the moment. I am signed up to one of your email lists and all I ever get is emails from some fucknut going: 'EMERGENCY NARTZIS EVERYWHERE' When in all actuality a working class white man looked at you the wrong way.

FFS just look at the state of that girl in that picture! Stop playing at wadical politics and see these people for the joke that they are!!!!!!!!!!

Your giving fuel to some narrow-minded populist fantasy, and winning noone over to anything resembling decent politics...

But I suppose you won't read this anyway, and if you do the best response you could muster is NARTTTTTTZZZZIIIIIII!!!!!!!!

The zionist hate machine has infultrated the hateful EDL:
 http://www.thejc.com/node/32535
The above link is from the jewish chronicle. Article by Mark Israel

Here's the article:
EDL step up their Jewish recruitmentExtreme-right English Defence League sets up ‘Jewish division’ to lead the fight ‘against jihad’


By Marcus Dysch, June 3, 2010

An EDL activist at a recent demo
The English Defence League, the extreme right-wing anti-Islamic-fundamentalism group, has launched a "Jewish division", encouraging members of the community to "lead the counter-Jihad fight in England".

It has signed up hundreds of followers on Facebook since the launch last week. Supporters include an ex-Community Security Trust volunteer who claims "a lot of Jewish guys want to get stuck in".

One follower wrote on Facebook "we are all Shayetet 13", in support of the IDF naval special forces unit involved in the Gaza flotilla incident.

But Jewish community organisations responded to the initiative with shock, saying the EDL intimidated Muslim communities and claiming its support for Israel was "empty and duplicitous".

The former CST member, Mark Israel, claimed Jews should back the EDL as an alternative to existing community groups.

He said: "I've been involved with groups like CST and the 62 Group for 40 years.

"At first I thought the EDL was an off-shoot of the BNP but I have been investigating them. They are very pro-active, unlike the Board of Deputies. They are our allies. We have a common cause. These guys want to have dialogue with the Jewish community.

"I know a lot of Jewish guys who want to get stuck in and want to support a physical presence. It is not your typical thing people want to be associated with, but in this day and age we need something like this. Is the CST enough?"

The EDL mission statement says the new division is for "Jewish supporters of the EDL, and supporters of Jewish people everywhere. We are non-racist/fascist and anyone is welcome if they want to live under English values and fully integrate into our way of life".

Last September the EDL brandished the Israeli flag at a demonstration and called on supporters to launch a counter-protest against a pro-Hizbollah march in Trafalgar Square.

Mark Gardner, CST communications director, said: "The EDL intimidate entire Muslim communities, causing tension and fear. Jews ought to remember that we have long experience of being on the receiving end of this kind of bigotry."

Jon Benjamin, Board of Deputies chief executive, said: "The EDL's supposed 'support' for Israel is empty and duplicitous. It is built on a foundation of Islamophobia and hatred which we reject entirely.

"Sadly, we know only too well what hatred for hatred's sake can cause. The overwhelming majority will not be drawn in by this transparent attempt to manipulate a tense political conflict."

Sorry, it was an article by Marcus Dysch and NOT Mark Israel

Someone said "Nazis don't wave Israel flags". Some Nazis don't but orthodox Nazis do. To commemorate the Nazi party's support for the Zionist colonisation of Palestine; Hitler had a coin minted with the reversed Swastika on one side and the Star of David on the other . The BNP; under the direction of their Nazi leaders; do support Israel.

The leaders of the EDL wish to impose on us in England the type of state control that Israel exerts through it's watch towers, laws against inter racial marriage and so on in Palestine.

The suggestion that anyone who knows their history or is prepared to debate the present is middle class is a piece of anti working class bigotry.

worrying development. we should expect a lot more of this. especially during the world cup. please note that its wrong to say that the EDL attacked, though. it seems there was apprehension on both sides for any physical confrontation. There was verbal to and fro on both sides, but there wasn't an attack from anyone. lets call it what it was.

A bunch of idiots yelling and screaming at each other.

What a lot of unpleasant people. Next time I hope a massive Asian copper comes along and nicks you all for breaching the Queen's peace - Palestards and EDL alike.

There were blows here, though thrown by the muggy looking girl with the tidy lyle&scott top on- as shown in the video posted on here.
But yeah, no need to blow this out of proportion but it is advisable for groups to be prepared for potential confrontations that could erupt.

whem you consider that the swp paper carried the headline smash the edl(think before the edl went to bolton) isnt this exactly what they want i think were gonna be seeing lots more of this because the edl numbers will be swelled by lads just out watching the football could be a hot summer

Hang on a minute - getting hit by a little girl who is with some EDL mongs is being "attacked by fascists"?

If you'd been attacked by fascists you'd know about it mate - those bastards come armed and don't mess about.

But running fast in the opposite direction shitting their pants hiding behind the pigs and only stopping to piss against the nearest cathedral whilst their beloved leaders shop them to the filth

TOSSERS

Nice pose.... he he he