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Liverpool Social Forum meeting

Antoine | 15.01.2005 19:18 | Free Spaces | Liverpool

The second meeting of the LSF will take place on Tuesday 18th Jan

The second meeting of the newly-formed Liverpool Social Forum will take place on tuesday 18th January at 7.30pm in the McAusland Lounge,Liverpool Guild of Students, Mount Pleasant.

Come along and bring all your friends, family, pets, etc. to discuss issues, and work towards united actions and events, and ultimately form a fresh, united progressive/radical movement on Merseyside.

Current issues include ID cards, Stop the War stuff and Critical Mass, plus ideas for a proposed statement of principles!

Antoine
- e-mail: liverpoolsf@yahoo.com
- Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/liverpoolsf/titlepage.html

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esf

18.01.2005 12:07

the meeting is new and should be brave enought to tackle or initiate all new ideas and actions arising out of the london conference last year, we need to keep the focus on anything that will bring more and more to the meetings and keep the momentum up and build local confidence and actions,

here in liverpool we have a quiet alternative scene an attack of grantism and legalisms and keeping ones head down is choking the radical and dangerous minded amongst activist.

unless we break out it will become another talkshop or ego trip for up and coming entrepreneurial types to sell the world in the process od saving it.

hard questions need to be faced and tackled no punches pulled or words muttered afterwards, the impulse to change has to come from us and no saviours from high or expected sponataneous uprisings a solid campaign involving local people and ready to embrace all and every outburst fan the flames of discontent.

the art of agitating and arousing protest has to be relearnt.
the method of organising non party, guru less outfits is opening with the era of more specialised groups media networks such as this are duty bound to break out of their class elitism and go to the people make war on war not love the enemy the city is being privatised and buildings get sold and converted to luxury flats overnight.

wher are the opponents ?

hardman street mtucurc(a mouthful even for linda lovelace) is sold a 20 year old hq for the left, the trade unions albeit a minority of ther4e members,a cultural centre and progressive international link with activists and groups across the globe. Although borne out of Thatchers era, mass unemployment and a decline in the trade union poweretc.
a collossal political and cultural gain for solidarity in the face of the steel teeth of capitalism voraciously eating and chewing up people that were not with the system,or dulled down work drones.

this vacuum needs to be filled the need for an organising centre and social space and liberated zone for activist with anticapitalist agenda is overdue or rotten ripe.
Our town is full odf scallies, bouncers and drugdealers, hustlers wheeler- dealers and con merchants. Most of them are now engaged in a massive ego trip to feed the world after a tidal wave lays low the poor sections of the world.South east asia

where they ever concerned before, will they be concerned afterwards, will this Dianaesque outpouring of crocodile tears, style charity mission change the hearts and minds of bankers. Owill it be down to us as activists to encourage defiance not compliance, to resist not to assist, to stick a spoke in the wheel of their machines of publicity. to deliberately fuck up and sabotage and ask when where how will you change the world by dipping into your well paid pockets and giving a few bob to keep the poor children of the world fed.
why do we pay for food?
why do we have to ship it over to people?
who the hell is stealing the worlds resources and destroying what it doesnt need in the holy pusuit and name of profit.

Answer those who are still raining bombs on Iraq and preparing for intervention in Iran.
we are all terrorist and we are all anticapitalist, some use a gun bomb or plane, others a road block a petition a rational intellectual arguement against the enemy.

whichever you choose the more we encourage to kickback, punch the nose of the cops those greedy pigs buying up property, the yuppies mark 2 decending on the city, like a plague of locust the better we are to face the battles fo G8 fast approaching and learn not just how to attack, protest and have a demonstration therapy session, but how to beat overcome and win, ending all governments once and for all. and with that the cime of starvation.
in a world of plenty and idle hands and tireed minds play video games of twin tower attcaks.

allah akbar

god is a great word
propeller...contact..
engine...
chocks away...
john lennon airport you have permission to take off.

johno


the site's bust

19.01.2005 16:11

The article on the LSF seems to be a little, um, not working.

it really is a 'free space' ;-)

antoine


If you're serious about this

20.01.2005 00:55

If you're serious about this you need to hold the next meeting somewhere outside the university. There's a lot of people interested in this kind of Social Forum in Liverpool but they won't turn up at a student union bar. I've never been to that bar you mentioned and I can't be arsed trying to find it. Make it somewhere central and well known.

If you're embracing the PGA hallmarks make it clear and just link to them instead of waffling on in some kind of shite politico-speak.  http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/agp/free/pga/hallm.htm

There's a long history of working class resistance in Liverpool that we should be proud of but there's also a history of authoritarian 'socialism' that should be resisted. The ordinary people of Liverpool have rejected it time after time. Follow their lead and reject any party or organisation affiliation to a Social Forum. People get involved and organise as individuals.

Fascists are not welcome whatever name they like to use now. They should be ejected through the nearest window.



You need to do something about your website. Email me if you want me to sort out a proper website.










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mail e-mail: nonames@hush.com


yes

20.01.2005 11:08

you have some good points, but some things you say are unnecessary and some things need to be seen contextually:

* Place. The whole idea for the LSF came about largely by students. It was therefore inevitable that while we were still testing the water, the whole thing (demography of participants, place, and nature of meetings) would be somewhat student-centric. Also, the Guild is really easy to book rooms. But I think everyone would agree that the meetings should, and will move to a more inclusive place (perhaps the Casa? they seem nice).

* Party Affiliation. I cannot speak for everyone who participates in the LSF process, but i can more-or-less safely say that no-one who is genuinely committed to the whole idea would ever want any dominance (official or unofficial) of any party, group or organisation. I think you'll find that the website's links page has not a single link to any party, and its links are broad in nature and political angle. This is a deliberate move.

* PGA hallmarks. No-one has said anything about the PGA hallmarks, so that's why you have heard nothing about them. They have not even been discussed, but if you want, the next meeting can have a discussion of whether to take them on or not.

* The website. Yes i know it's crap, it was only ever meant to be a stop-gap solution. Any help with creating a new one would be very much appreciated.

antoine


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