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Labour's 'Big Conversation' - access denied

Ian | 21.01.2004 18:05 | Anti-militarism | Oxford

I was refused entry to New Labour's 'big conversation' - why not get ourselves invited en-masse (and undercover, a la Albright @ borders) so we can stop this big conversation crap masquerading as democracy.

Hi

Was good to get the info about Jack Straw in Rose Hill. I went down but was refused entry by a few coppers, straining at a leash held by Malcolm Powers, Deputy Regional Director of the South East Labour Party. He said that if I wanted to attend a big bullshit conversation, then I had to contact him or his office, and it could be arranged. So I have, but not before mailing the Oxford Mail trying to expose this New Labour sham, and hopefully highlighting the link between the money spent on the war and lack of funds for social projects to some of the people who might just read it (if published) in Rose Hill / Barton / B-Leys etc

Next thing - I know this might not be everyone's cup of tea, but there was a photographer there on Friday from national press (who was also denied entry) because he'd heard that there might be an anti-war protest. So I suppose if a load of us can get legitimately invited to one of these events with a high profile cabinet minister (Blunket, Hoon?!?! - but only if they're really stupid) then we could screw their little event over and keep the pressure up.

Of course if they suspect we're they're to ask improper anti New Labour questions then you might be waiting a while for your invite. Anyhow, here's the people to contact...

 keith_day@new.labour.org.uk

 phil_gaskin@new.labour.org.uk

 christopher_roberts@new.labour.org.uk

from...  http://www.labour-southeast.org/contacts.shtm


- Letter to Oxford Mail...

SIR - I tried to attend the meeting hosted by Jack Straw and Andrew Smith
in Rose Hill last Friday, hoping to question them on the cabinet's
decision to launch an attack on Iraq, and the fact that the weapons of
mass destruction which Tony Blair 'knew' Iraq possessed have still not
materialised.

Just inside the community centre gate, Malcolm Powers from the south-east
New Labour party informed me that the meeting was by invitation only, but
when I asked to see the invitation list or an invite, he said he was too
busy to talk and drove off in his car. I was then bundled off the
premises by two police officers, who on threatening to arrest me, were
unable to tell me under which law.

I was glad to read that Rose Hill residents gave Mr Straw a grilling, but
wish I could have asked him how much more money their Sure Start programme
could have received if Britain had not spent over ₤3 billion killing
10,000+ Iraqi civilians and boosting George Bush's re-election campaign
during the invasion of Iraq.

It's vitally important that programmes such as Sure Start are discussed at
a grass roots level, but for this meeting to be held under the banner of
New Labour's 'Big Conversation' PR stunt was misleading. For me, the
conversation was rather limited.

Regards

Ian Hodgson
Oxford Stop the War Coalition
Abbey Road, Oxford


- And to Malcolm POwers...

Dear Mr Powers

In a follow-up to my e-mail letter to the Oxford Mail, please could you
inform me of when I will be able to attend one of New Labour's 'big
conservative' meetings, as you promised me in our brief discussion outside
the community centre in Rose Hill last Friday.

As I was prevented by yourself and the police from attending the meeting
with Jack Straw, I would expect that the meeting I am allowed to attend
would also be with a high ranking cabinet member. This is because the
cabinet decision to go to war in Iraq was one of collective
responsibility.

I look forward to your reply.

Regards, Ian


Ian

Comments

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The New Big Conversation Leader

21.01.2004 20:12

The Leader of the Big Conversation
The Leader of the Big Conversation

In my new role as directer of information at 'The big conversation' i can tell you your article is all lies. I blame Al-Jazeera - they are marketing for the Tories! The meeting was a full debate by anyone who wanted to enter. But a few Protesters Armed tried to get in. Luckily, They were all slaughtered at the doors of borders. No I am not scared, and neither should you be! In truth the protesters commited suicide at the doors of borders.

Information Minister


mainstream only

22.01.2004 14:43

When I went to the big conversation webshite, I found that I had to answer a question on who I voted for (or supported, I can't remember which). The choices were Labour, Conservative, Lib Dem or Other. In other words those who voted for something else were all lumped together as irrelevant loonies, and those who don't vote because of the sham democratic system were totally excluded, says it all really.


Dont expect anyone to listen but it is definately time to campaign for a NONE OF THE ABOVE box on all ballots (and also a WRONG QUESTION box on all referenda).

sqoo


A Statement By The Big Conversation

22.01.2004 16:40

The Big Conversation Leader
The Big Conversation Leader

The site you went on was not the big conversation site but a site set up by hackers to fool you. Our initial assessment is that they will all die. As we speak viruses are commiting suicide under the firewall. I have detailed information about the situation, which that what you allege are illusions. These cowards the Tories have no morals. They have no shame about lying. Don't Believe Them!

Information Minister


reply to sqoo

23.01.2004 00:24

sqoo, couldn't agree with you more about the website, it's utter shite. There's no easy way of finding out how you're able to actually attend one of these meetings, and eventually you just get referred to your local New Conservative party.

They obviously want people just to write in their comments, so then they can censor any 'offensive' ones. I wonder if this censorship includes any anti government sentiments, and whether the complete list, swearwords and all will ever be released to those journalists who can cope with the odd fuck/shit?

So anyway, the way I see it is that they've changed tactics - comments via websites, and closed meetings, at which spreading the word and turning up for a protest / dig at the politician is no longer available to us - this means that the protests we've done in Oxford (Andrew Smith, Albright) have worked, but if they're changing tactics then so must we. That's why I want as many people to ask the local New Labour party for an invite, that way if any other big names come to Oxford, they won't be able to get away without a bit of embarrassing dissent / huge protest, depending on how many people ask for an invite and then are able to make it.

Ian


Statement

23.01.2004 20:11

Information Minister
Information Minister

We are not afraid of Ian's comments. Allah has Condomned him. In fact ian and his friends have started to commit suicide under the walls of Baghdad. He isn't in control of himself never mind Baghdad. Don't Believe Him!

Information Minister


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