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What Really Happens at whatreallyhappened.com?

S. Boyle | 10.12.2002 03:12

For a website dedicated to exposing hidden truths, there is a suspicious lack of information about those who support the enterprise.

What Really Happens at whatreallyhappened.com?

The role of the conspiracy theorist is not to provide answers but to raise the questions not being asked - to sniff out suspicious patterns and duplicitous sources. Casting a critical eye at mainstream media is but one necessary task, casting a critical eye at self-proclaimed independent media is another - after all, conspiracies don't conveniently end at corporate boundaries.

One independent website of note, whatreallyhappened.com, is widely referenced by conspiracy theorists the world over. Yet for a website dedicated to exposing hidden truths, there is a suspicious lack of information about those who support the enterprise. Only the editorial commentator Michael Rivero is a public identified participant, as referenced by a couple links to off-site interviews (home page, bottom left corner).

While it is true that Michael Rivero's has been published numerous times on well-established sites like Rense, the Yellow Times, and the World Net Daily, strangely his interviews were conducted by two obscure websites, GoOff! and BankIndex. This peculiar choice of "media outlets" as a promotional tool deserved a closer look.

The GoOff.com interview: GoOff! is backed by Dandelion Books, LLC, who happens to be the publisher of Michael Rivero's soon to be released hard-back, Cyber Soldiers And Silicon Patriots: The New Face Of Political Dissent ( ISBN189330230X - $18.95). GoOff! purports to tell the "...truth uncensored" - conveniently packaged as Dandelion books, advertised on-site, and available for purchase or redistribution through their affiliate program. Overseeing the entire operation is a group named PMC4, LLC.

The BankIndex interview: Conducted by J. Conti (who also writes for GoOff.com) the interview comprises of three parts, between advertisements for loans, foreclosure notices, debt consolidations, and credit cards offers endorsed by BankIndex. The site also "provides a global platform upon which the Financial Businesses of the world can showcase their product lines and services" and "for select Financial Institutions we offer a highly competitive fee structure to be included in our different promotional plans 'Showcase' arena." It just so happens that BankIndex is a division of PMC4, LLC.

So why would Michael Rivero, an avowed anti-globalist, anti-corporate champion of the truth be working for (or very closely with) a corporate operation like PMC4, LLC? Perhaps it's better to ask what is the nature of Aventura, Florida corporation's business; "From web hosting to options to mutli-faceted revenue generation strategies, PMC4, LLC offers a variety of services and solutions intended to optimize your path to profitability." Their objective is to specialize "in assisting small to medium sized businesses as well as Fortune 100 companies whose presence on the Internet is more than ancillary to their core business."

The "About Us" section reveals five key figures behind the PMC4 corporate structure: James P. Garib, founder of an Intellectual property development firm; Peter Sordjan, a technology-focused financial entrepreneur; Ruben D. Lupulescu, a former computer engineer for Hughes Electronics and DirectTV Latin America; Lawrence D. Kruguer, a seasoned marketing VP for fat-cats like American Express, SportsLine, and Alamo Rent-a-Car; and Rico M. Sogocio, attorney and former member of the United States Department of Justice.

As you might have guessed, the aforementioned Dandelion Books belongs to the family of PMC4 holdings. Presided by Carol Adler, an experienced ghostwriter specializing in Christian and family writing, conspiracies form the staple product of this publisher. Carol Adler's duties including writing reviews of her products as evidenced in this piece that appeared on Rense (Gordon Thomas's book about Chinese plans to attack the U.S. via Canada).

To bring the focus back on Michael Rivero, we find that he is "a twenty-year veteran in all aspects of TV and feature film production with an emphasis in film effects and computer animation. He is a co-founder and producer at Home Baked Music, a Hawaii-based production company." His credits include: "director of film projects for Robert Abel & Associates, where he was responsible for animation and computer graphics, and optical processing. Prior to Abel, he was employed by Hanna Barbera Productions as a computer graphics engineer and helped create various innovative strides in animation. Mr. Rivero was also on the feature film staff of Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation and through his career has assisted and been involved with feature films and television shows such as "Valley of the Dolls" (M-O-W), "Star Trek" (the motion picture), and NBC's "Amazing Stories" (series), among many others. Mr. Rivero's awards credits include gold, silver, and bronze medals from the New York International Film Festivals, two Clios in graphics, the Cable Car award at the San Francisco Film Festival, an Emmy nomination, and gold & silver Hugos"

As for his writing credentials, to prove to be less stellar. For example, Michael Rivero's challenge of Vincent Foster's suicide, as documented by Dan E. Moldea's published research, was never satisfactorily resolved:

"In a Free Republic post at 16:55:55 PST on 12/31/2000, professional conspiracy theorist and Clinton-hater Michael Rivero made a series of false and misleading claims about my honest, wholly-responsible, and well-researched 1998 book, A Washington Tragedy: How the Death of Vincent Foster Ignited a Political Firestorm. Rivero's participation in this thread was apparently provoked by an earlier defense, posted by Kevin Fornshill, the U.S. Park Police (USPP) officer who discovered Foster's body at Fort Marcy Park. In fact, Rivero's post was a response to Fornshill, who had lauded my work on the Foster case. (To read the first chapter of this book, please click "First Chapters.") . . .

. . . final note: I attempted to post this reply to Rivero's shoddy work at the Free Republic on January 3. However, when I attempted to log on, I discovered that I had been permanently banned from the site, apparently for having the audacity to go there and aggressively defend myself from time to time. (See: The Free Republic must be held accountable.)

After an exchange of e-mails, Jim Robinson, the overlord of the Free Republic, confirmed the banning to me, insisting, "I do not want trouble on the website." However, in an obvious effort to protect his legal position, Robinson then deleted the entire thread on which Rivero's irresponsible statements were made.

Nevertheless, my response stands.

More troubling was this brazen misquote caught by sharp-eyed blogger, Damian Penny:

20.5.02
This is long overdue, but CAMERA, a pro-Israel media watchdog, has confirmed that Ariel Sharon's "We, the Jewish people, control America" quote is a hoax.

(I sent this article to Michael Rivero, who repeats the quote 5 or 6 times a day. Let's see if he responds.)
7:57PM

Rivero responds! Wow. Michael Rivero actually responded to an e-mail I sent drawing his attention to the story debunking Ariel Sharon's alleged "We, the Jewish people, control America" quote. He didn't mention that story, though. Instead, he pounced upon my pointing out that the false quote was spread by a group linked to Hamas - which Rivero calls an Israeli front group. Here's the complete text of his message:

The same HAMAS that was set up and funded by Shin Bet to be Arafat's opposition, yeah, I know them.

Oh, touche!

A history lesson: there's a very tiny kernel of truth in Rivero's statement. It seems hard to believe, but at one point the Israelis did funnel money to Hamas as part of a divide-and-conquer strategy. Initially they were more opposed to Arafat than they were to the Israelis, though there seems to have been a thaw in recent years. (Arafat does allow Hamas to run schools and other services within his territory, after all.)

Needless to say, the strategy has come back to haunt the Israelis, time and time again - not unlike America's funding of the anti-Soviet mujahadeen in Afghanistan, some of whom later became the Taliban. It's a gigantic leap, however, to comclude that Hamas - which calls for the complete destruction of Israel and establishment of a strict Islamic state - is secretly a pro-Israel group whose sole mission is to give Ariel Sharon an excuse to kill Palestinians. But then again, if there's one thing we know about Michael Rivero, he has no problem with making gigantic logical leaps
6:39 AM

Michael Rivero even went so far as to suggest that the infamously inaccurate Ariel Sharon quote was cited by Robert Fisk:

06/26/02 Robert Fisk: I wonder why Bush doesn't let Sharon run his press office "I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it."-- Ariel Sharon to Shimon Peres, October 3rd, 2001, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.

It should come as no surprise that Michael Rivero's deliberately promoted one of the most vindictive 9/11 myths, attributed by various investigators to Al-Manar Television, "A Lebanese TV station that aims to preserve the islamic values and to enhance the civilized role of the Arab and Islamic Community. Al-Manar is the first Arab establishment to stage an effective psychological warfare against the Zionist enemy."

by: Michael Rivero
rivero@whatreallyhappened.com

Before the dust had settled from the collapse of the World Trade Towers, Israel's foreign ministry had expressed concern for the well being of 4000 Israelis known to have worked in or near the World Trade Towers. But almost immediately, stories of such concern vanished from the media amid reports in the foreign press which claimed that Israelis who worked in or near the World Trade Towers were specifically given advanced warnings not to go to work on 9-11. One Israeli owned company, Odigo, had received a two hour advance warning of the attacks.

Israeli supporters were soon flooding the US media with denials of the story. Even when the US media's spiking of the Israeli spy ring/phone tap story proved a clear pro-Israel propaganda bias, the claim that Israelis working in the area of the WTC were preferentially absent on 9-11 was still dismissed as an internet legend.

Now, however, as the final tally of 9-11 victims is being generated, CNN's own website, which lists 9-11 victims by nationality, shows that only one Israeli, Alona Avraham, died in the 9-11 attacks and that Mr. Avraham was not in or near the WTC, but a passenger on one of the hijacked aircraft.

Because of Odigo, it is beyond question warnings were sent to Israeli owned or linked companies in the area of the WTC. Because of the almost complete absence of Israelis among the victims, it is now apparent how widespread that warning had to have been.

No retraction or correction has ever been for any of these statements. Perhaps it's due in large perhaps to Michael Rivero's conspiratorial pedigree. Long before whatreallyhappened, Michael Rivero gained national exposure for his part in the TWA Flight 800 controversy. Yet earlier still was he found himself corroborating with a secretive American military group, the Special Forces Underground. Led by Green Beret Steven Barry who claims to have commanded the secretive elite forces group since 1992, he also served as editor of the quarterly newsletter, The Resister. Typical commentary sanctioned a white supremacist agenda; "The United States military was created by white men for white men to defend a white nation. It wasn't designed as a multicultural, diverse, touchy-feely, huggy-snuggly social experiment in race relations. ... Twenty years ago, you could trust a black to do a job. Now it' s questionable."

The Resister Issue 1

The Purported Newsletter of the Special Forces Underground
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This is the first issue to appear of a newsletter by a group calling itself the "Special Forces Underground". This group, embedded deep within the military structure of the United States, opposes the idea of a New World Order along with transfer of the soldiers to United Nations commanders. This document is as I recieved it, outside of HTML formatting changes.

Volume I, Number 1. Summer 1994.
Boxholder, P.O. Box 1403, Addison, Texas, 75001 (Price) GRATIS . . .

What We Stand For
The philosophy of The RESISTER is straightforward: strict constitutionalism, isolationism, laissez-faire capitalism, individual rights, limited government, and republicanism.

What We Oppose
The RESISTER opposes statism, liberalism, tribalism, socialism, collectivism, internationalism, democracy, altruism, pull politics, and the New World Order. . .

Questions to the Middle-Aged Mutant Ninja Animator: Michael Rivero: rivero@accessone.com


The Resister Issue 2

The Purported Newsletter of the Special Forces Underground
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Volume I, Number 2. Autumn 1994. Boxholder, P.O. Box 1403, Addison, Texas, 75001 (Price) GRATIS

. . . AN OPEN LETTER TO OUR READERS

For the past two months our observers have been reporting that some readers are questioning the integrity of contributors to The RESISTER because they choose to be known by pseudonyms rather then their real names. This is a legitimate concern and it deserves to be answered at length.

First, no contributor is obliged to use a pseudonym, as anybody who has actually READ the first issue can tell you. Second, the decision to require staff members and regular contributors to use pseudonyms was an OPSEC issue, not an ethical one.

Third, there is a historical precedent we follow which, if not already familiar to you, in all likelihood never will be, and is therefore none of your business. Fourth, publishing The RESISTER is a security risk in its own right, let alone referring to in tradecraft and organization. Really, what DO they teach you guys in the Q-course these days?

The RESISTER is a response to the altruistic cannibalism which is consuming the principle of inalienable individual rights upon which this nation was founded and which have been served-up in sacrifice to the mob god of democracy, the minority god of tribalism, the nature god of environmentalism, the slave god of collectivism, and the statist god of socialism.

Do you want to know who we are? We are the individuals who conceive the ideas the cretinous mob calls "the team effort." We are the individuals whose excellence is subverted by the racist policy of "equal opportunity." We are the independent, innovative, and creative who have been enslaved to serve the "greater good." Without us you would still be prying roots out of ground with a pointed stick.

It would be a great comfort and convenience for the myriad unconstitutional federal agencies to note us, categorize us, and file us away for future "reference." We will not give them an early chance, nor will we be goaded into identifying ourselves by sneering comments about anonymous writers.

Every whim based, undefined, un-judicable law it passes; every unconstitutional gang of armed badge wielding thugs it deploys; every unconstitutional agency it creates; every incomprehensible special interest regulation it mandates; every dime extorted through taxation and redistributed to the incompetent and undeserving; every American life lost in some altruistic war, humanitarian assistance, or peacekeeping operation, demonstrates the illegitimacy of the federal government.

The federal government os not "of the people," it is the instrument of pull-peddlers. It is not "by the people," it is the toady of special interests. It is not "for the people," it is the exercise of force for the sake of force.

Pass laws against us; we will not obey. Regulate our activities; we will not comply. Legislate our behavior; we will not consent.

We are freemen. We will not be subjugated. We have the guns to prove it.

THE EDITOR

. . . Questions to the Middle-Aged Mutant Ninja Animator: Michael Rivero: rivero@accessone.com

Clearly Michael Rivero has called into question his own integrity as a purveyor of truth with suspicious connections and prejudicial innuendo. It stands to reason that Michael Rivero's intentions for whatreallyhappened is not to promote truth but a contrarian political agenda - just as militant, manipulative, and deceitful as its opposition. While no one is suggesting that he US Government is without significant problems worth investigation, what must never be taken for granted is the benevolence of self-proclaimed watchdogs.

"That's not to say that What Really Happened is the conduit to truth. But what the web site does is let people know that there are ways to find out what is going on if what one is being told by the media does not make sense.

I think that the nation is in the trouble it is in because people were conditioned to watch a talking head on the TV and believe what that talking head was saying. People need to stop relying on other people to tell them what reality is and rely on their own analytical ability to figure out what is going on"

- Michael Rivero

So true, Michael, so very, very true.
S. Boyle, December 9, 2002

S. Boyle
- e-mail: sboyle2003@yahoo.com

Comments

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michael is doing a great job

10.12.2002 05:21

you can tell by the enemies he makes who seek to undemine his website. This posting is an example

brian


conspiracies

10.12.2002 12:58

Oh God - now we've got conspiracy theories about conspiracy theorists - Aaaaaaaaggggghhhhhhh!!!!!!

johnny_boy


The Resister

10.12.2002 15:03

In point of fact I was never an editor for the Resister. I merely posted the newsletter as received. And, as onorous as the statement "created by white men for white men" may be to modern sensibilitirs, that was in fact the philosophy of the foubnders of the nation, as evidenced by their treatment of the natives.

As for the early warning to Odigo, anone can use a search engine to track down the story. A warning was sent, before the hijacked planes even left the ground. Odigo is owned by Israelis, and has since been acquired by Comverse Infosys, another Israeli company at the heart of the spy scandal as
reported by Carl Cameraon.

Irael's supporters seem to have little to argue with these days except screams of "racist", all the while forgetting that Israel itself is a highly racist nation.

1. "There is a huge gap between us (Jews) and our enemies ­not just in ability but in morality, culture, sanctity of life, and conscience. They are our neighbors here, but it seems as if at a distance of a few hundred meters away, there are people who do not belong to our continent, to our world, but actually belong to a different galaxy." Israeli president Moshe Katsav. The Jerusalem Post, May 10, 2001

2. "The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more".... Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time - August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000

3. " [The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs." Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts". New Statesman, 25 June 1982.

4. "The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls." " Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988

5. "When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle." Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983.

6. "How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to." Golda Meir, March 8, 1969.

7. "There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed." Golda Maier Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969

8. "The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after the war." Israeli General Matityahu Peled, Ha'aretz, 19 March 1972.

9. David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): "If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?" Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

9a. Ben Gurion also warned in 1948 : "We must do everything to insure they ( the Palestinians) never do return." Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes. "The old will die and the young will forget."

10. "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves." Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.

11. "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio. (Certainly the FBI's cover-up of the Israeli spy ring/phone tap scandal suggests that Mr. Sharon may not have been joking.

12. "We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel... Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours." Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces - Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983.

13. "We must do everything to ensure they [the Palestinian refugees] never do return" David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.

15. "We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai." David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.

16. "We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population." Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum"

17. "Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population." Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in Haaretz, April 4, 1969.

18. "We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!'" Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.

19. Rabin's description of the conquest of Lydda, after the completion of Plan Dalet. "We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters" Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion's special adviser on Arab Affairs, 1960. From "The Arabs in Israel" by Sabri Jiryas.

20. "There are some who believe that the non-Jewish population, even in a high percentage, within our borders will be more effectively under our surveillance; and there are some who believe the contrary, i.e., that it is easier to carry out surveillance over the activities of a neighbor than over those of a tenant. [I] tend to support the latter view and have an additional argument:...the need to sustain the character of the state which will henceforth be Jewish...with a non-Jewish minority limited to 15 percent. I had already reached this fundamental position as early as 1940 [and] it is entered in my diary." Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department. From Israel: an Apartheid State by Uri Davis, p.5.

21. "Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours... Everything we don't grab will go to them." Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.

22. "It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism,colonialization or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands." Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972.

23. "Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment... Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly." Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine,Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry.

24. "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." -- Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [Source: N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]

Michael Rivero


Mr. Rivero is incorrect

11.12.2002 05:43

Mr Rivero wrote:

As for the early warning to Odigo, anone can use a search engine to track down the story. A warning was sent, before the hijacked planes even left the ground.
>>>>>>>>>>
Yes we can track down the story.
Even Ruppert was forced to admit his mistake
 http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/051802_correction.html
"FTW reported that warnings received hours before the World Trade Center attacks by the Israeli instant messaging service, Odigo were immediately relayed to appropriate Israeli and US authorities. The warnings were, in fact, not relayed until immediately after the first plane had struck the WTC. "

Also, the message contained no specific information on the imminent attacks, so it would have been of little value.

Sorry Mr. Rivero, but you should follow up on checking with your stories.

Mr. Correction


Truth and Right Senses

13.12.2002 22:09

In today’s world the in determining the truth of matters one should not solely rely on one source or a particular event. This is not only the age of information but also disinformation.

Getting to the truth probably will consist of investigating a series of events or sources. Yes, Arab individual could be caught blowing up a downtown hotel in Miami. But this would not necessarily imply he was Muslim. He could easily be an Israeli infiltrator working to give the impression that Muslims were involved. My point is such information has to be cross checked, doubled check and attempts made trace the chain of events back to some origin.
Furthermore, sense of mind should then set in. There should be some possible gain to the instigator or perpetrator of the act. In this day and time nothing comes free or cheap. So everything that is logical is not necessary rational. There is a difference. In other words, there are reasons and rhythms to everything. The trick is getting on key.
I am not saying that WRH.com has all the facts or truths. But the site does give one options to pursue information of value as well as a vehicle to scrutinize disinformation currently flooding mainstream media. And in this day and time this is far more valuable than personal ideas, or propaganda beliefs. It may be that WRH like your site is nothing more than underground vehicles to create and incite clashes between so-called conspirator theorists. (laugh) created by the establishment in power. The truth of even this will be revealed in “Time”. For “Time” is the ultimate decider of truth. Time brings about a condition and a condition brings about change. And this friend is nothing short of the truth.

MuShah977


Truth and Sense

13.12.2002 22:39

In today’s world the in determining the truth of matters one should not solely rely on one source or a particular event. This is not only the age of information but also disinformation.

Getting to the truth probably will consist of investigating a series of events or sources. Yes, Arab individual could be caught blowing up a downtown hotel in Miami. But this would not necessarily imply he was Muslim. He could easily be an Israeli infiltrator working to give the impression that Muslims were involved. My point is such information has to be cross checked, doubled check and attempts made trace the chain of events back to some origin.
Furthermore, sense of mind should then set in. There should be some possible gain to the instigator or perpetrator of the act. In this day and time nothing comes free or cheap. So everything that is logical is not necessary rational. There is a difference. In other words, there are reasons and rhythms to everything. The trick is getting on key.
I am not saying that WRH.com has all the facts or truths. But the site does give one options to pursue information of value as well as a vehicle to scrutinize disinformation currently flooding mainstream media. And in this day and time this is far more valuable than personal ideas, or propaganda beliefs. It may be that WRH like your site is nothing more than underground vehicles to create and incite clashes between so-called conspirator theorists. (laugh) created by the establishment in power. The truth of even this will be revealed in “Time”. For “Time” is the ultimate decider of truth. Time brings about a condition and a condition brings about change. And this friend is nothing short of the truth.

Mushah977
mail e-mail: Shahid_1895@yahoo.com


Rivero

26.12.2002 02:13

This is quite fun. You can paste your quotes all you want. Nobody can deny that some of the Israeli leaders have been racist. Menachem Begin was a nutcase.

A highly racist nation? No. You like to fabricate things about how horrible the treatment of non-Jews is in Israel, when the facts are that anybody is free to worship anything, their are laws against discrimination, and there are several Muslim members of the Israeli parliament (Knesset).

But I can post a gazillion quotes from Arab leaders saying highly racist things about Jews. Would you like me to?

The truth is that you have every trait of a Jew hater. You claim that they hijacked Judaism in the 7th century, Zionists were behind the Holocaust, Jews own the media [there is some truth to this, however) and control the government, the Jewish religion is barbaric (I saw the Talmud Truth file you linked to on your site map page), claim that the 'highly racist Gods Chosen People attitude' is what caused all the Jewish persecutions in the past, and you have linked in the past several times to anti-Jewish hate sites like Radio Islam ( http://www.abbc.com) and Hoffman-Info.com. Sure you claim you are in search of 'the truth', but that's basically what every hate site on the net says. And it is quite interesting that most of the truth you happen to come upon is something that can be used against Jews.

And you go off an a sadistic rant whenever someone calls anyone an anti-Semite, ranting about how Jews AREN'T semites. It doesn't matter if they are or they aren't in this case, BECAUSE ANTI-SEMITSM HAS COME TO MEAN HATRED OF JEWS. LOOK IN ANY DICTIONARY. Yes, semites means babylonians, hebrews, etc, etc, which can be found in any dictionary but does anyone here obviously think of fucking Babylonians when they hear the word "Anti-Semitism"?

Reply to my e-mail, Mike. I know you are getting them because I have seen my letters appear on your page (after you edit them down to one sentence and idiotically argue against that). I also saw you post the thing that disproved that the footage of Palestinians cheering on 9/11 was fake, but it dissapeared once you figured that out (you probably just read the first sentence).

Kahz
mail e-mail: Kahzarella@nc.rr.com


MY HEARTHFELT THANKS TO MIKE RIVERO

01.01.2003 02:37

Mike Rivero is doing a great favor for exposing the Truth, and encourage readers to think on their own.

It is expected that zionists-supporters wont'like it and would try every trick in the book to critise him. They want us to submit to their media monopoly, and banish freedom of what to read, what to write and what to think.

No more. Thanks to Mike and many other courageous poeple like him. Don't be surprised to see that his huge readership will stand by him.

I have just learned that Mike has earned numerous awards related to his expertise in film industry, and I am glad.

He deserves another one for his successful website:  http://www.whatreallyhappened.com

Oumria
Canada

We need more courageous poeple like Mike Rivero.

Thank you Mike!

Oumria


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