Prominent academic goes public on her reasons for leaving the SWP
Ol Mutha Hubbard | 28.07.2003 15:36
Sue Blackwell of Birmingham University has spilt the beans about the shennanigans, duplicity and back-stabbing that led her to leave the SWP after 19 years. A real insight into the abuses of democracy practised by this weird cult.
Ol Mutha Hubbard
Homepage:
http://web.bham.ac.uk/sue_blackwell/politics/
Comments
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*sigh*
28.07.2003 15:49
perhaps you should set up a website www.lifeofbrian.com/Ireallyhatetheswp
Sonic
Hold on!
28.07.2003 15:50
H
Hah!
28.07.2003 15:51
BTW error 404 page not found,
Sonic
If
28.07.2003 15:53
H
Swuppy hating
28.07.2003 16:06
Never forget who the real enemy of the left is, the left!
Swupper
To the past 5 commenters...
28.07.2003 16:29
Thomas J
It'sall good
28.07.2003 17:35
BTW, I didn't ALWAYS hate the SWP as much as I do now. Nor, presumably,did Sue Blackwell, what with being a member for 19 years and all.
So MAYBE, just MAYBE there's something pretty fucked up with the direction it's heading in?
Laters!
Ol Mutha Hubbard
student wankers
28.07.2003 20:36
wooly student clique
I am sorry
28.07.2003 20:49
I am so sorry to hear that your many years of service to us all has come to and end.
My god! 35 years between both of you.
ram
True
29.07.2003 10:27
yes a broken link, keep up the good work!
(you know if I was a cynic I might start to think that OMH is in fact an SWP member trying to discredit the opposition!)
Sonic
Anarchy ahead.
29.07.2003 16:22
Oh,the Socialists take the split road,
We Anarchists take the co-op road,
And we'll get rid o' cap'talism afor ye ! (ya know the tune)
GL
GL has it right
29.07.2003 17:55
see all u anarchists at DSEi. Peace and rage and other things. Ben
ben
Link works OK on my computer, Sonny Boy
30.07.2003 08:36
And if you "were a cynic". Please! You're in the SWP. How much more cynical does life GET? Good to see you keep gravitating back to this story though.
Ol Mutha Hubbard
Sorry OMH
30.07.2003 09:12
Anrachists may be having a good time, but you are as much use in a serious struggle as a chocolate teapot...but you do look cool in your black gear, I'll give you that!
:)
Sonic
Sue Blackwell
30.07.2003 10:37
Sue was an ordinary activist..sure she's from a m/c background which made conversations with her frustrating as she doesnt know what its like to be working class but i wont damn some one *just* because they happen to born in to a rich family (could have been any one of us).
Its tiring that any time a critique of the disempowering, destructive methods of the SWP is posted people affect a 'bored with it all' attitude rather than being adultt and learning the lessons at hand.
Maybe you all live in a vacuum but in birmingham at least the swp are a problem and a force that attempts to destroy what it cant control..
But i guess an activist being hounded by the swp because she believes (albeit belatedly) in democracy and an asian guy being witchunted because he is a position to expose what the swp's new fundamentalist chums are really about without the usual retort of 'racist' being slapped in his face...i guess to you all you dont care..far better to but heads in sand and believe that all criticism of the swp is 'racist' or whatever...
Gerk Francis
e-mail:
gerkfrancis@hotmail.com
Anyone suprised?
30.07.2003 12:20
ascaso
why won't you all do as you're told?
30.07.2003 12:32
Middle-class Muslim-loving sell-outs the lot of you! I bet you're all SWP really..
a nonny mouse
Er (3)
30.07.2003 12:52
Sonic
Try Reading The Peice
30.07.2003 14:39
Yes it is important that antiwar activists are being threatend and lied about by the SWP..why? for many reasons not least that the SWP's behaviour (which i know that you 'two' have no problems with sexism or homophobia or the swp physically attacking people) means people give up on the anti-war movement altogether (not helped by apologists like you)
Gerk Francis
Sigh (4)
30.07.2003 14:50
........
Still you have convinced me, smash the SWP! Kill their central committee and the world will be a far far better plce.
tell me, do you not see what a prat you are, spending more time in some obscure intra-left dispute rather than doing something useful?
Sonic
And tonight, Matthew, I'm going to be...
30.07.2003 15:29
a ninny mouse
Sigh (666)
30.07.2003 15:40
Useful like what, oh wise one? Repeatedly trolling indymedia with dullard one-liners ABOUT said "intra-left dispute". That must give a sense of satisfaction:-D
People post articles daily on this website that I don't have the time for. Do I tell people they should get themselves lives? No, sir, I do not. But you appear OUTRAGED than anyone should want to discuss this stuff. Can't think why...
Still, I'm glad you like my fashion sense. You look pretty blinding in Lindsey German's old cast offs and all, as it goes.
Ol Mutha Hubbard
As I may have mentioned
30.07.2003 15:52
I dont know if you managed to look up from your well-thumbed copy of "Hating the SWP for Dummies" but we managed to unite everyone up here into one party. It's far more effective than spending your life trashing other portions of the left to the amusement of everyone else outside your little bubble.
I would say try it in England, but where would be the fun in that for you OMH. Imagine working with people you only agree with about 99.99% of issues!
Sonic
Dear Sonic
30.07.2003 23:33
I would work with the SWP...but they don't seem too keen on "working with" anyone who "only agrees with them on 99.99% of issues" -not that I do agree with them to that extent. Total compliance appears to be the only option they're happy with, hence the Alliance is fucked. This is not because I say so. Many people who have been close to the SWP, such as Mike Marqusee and Sue Blackwell, have reached identical conclusions.
I think this is important, as it fucks the idea of forming a coherent left voice, as indeed has happened in Scotland. So, because I think it's interesting and important, I post information about it toshare with other people who may be intersted and to try to have some discussion on the way forwards. You're welcome to read it. Or not, the choice is yours.
Now I know I slipped in a couple of multi-syllabic words there, but I HOPE you can still get the gist.
Ol Mutha Hubbard
the ssp /swp in scotland
31.07.2003 13:31
party ,like the ism,cwi and rcn amongst others, and yes there is differences of opinion
and views and some sectarian stuff ,but it is kept as best as possible inside and we go with the democrartic decision reached and all groups and people who are not of any platform argue there points at strength but we then dont get in the huff and leave and resort to name childish name calling .Why with all our differances we still belive that unity is the way forward and we could be at the start of something much bigger.
You english folk need to grow up and stop living in the seventies /eighties world of left politics.
C Stewart
England/Scotland
31.07.2003 13:38
Gerk Francis
e-mail:
gerkfrancis@hotmail.com
Physical attack
31.07.2003 15:15
Why is this?
Sonic
Physical Attack Is FACT
31.07.2003 15:36
Check out (again) :
Also read Sue Blackwell's web page for different examples of SWP agression..
Gerk Francis
e-mail:
gerkfrancis@hotmail.com
Really Ger
31.07.2003 15:54
"The actual attack was pretty limp and unserious. As far as either one of us
are aware, the SWPers did not actually manage to get a blow in"
In other words no-one was assaulted, no one hit.
Sonic
SWP blah blah SWP blah SWP blah SWP
31.07.2003 16:05
adman
Just for the Record
31.07.2003 16:44
SWP at every opportunity" brigade. I am still a member of the Socialist
Alliance and still hopeful that it can sort itself out. And yes, the SSP
in Scotland is a lot more successful than the SA in England, perhaps because
the SWP can't dominate it? Just a thought.
For the record I come from a working-class background - I had a state
education and was able to go to University because we had grants in those
days. My family have never been rich, my parents live mostly on a state
pension. I joined the SWP while I was working for John Laings on a building
site (doing the typing, not carrying bricks!). OK you can call me middle-class
now if you like, but my loyalties are still with my roots.
Sue B
e-mail:
s.a.blackwell@bham.ac.uk
Homepage:
http://web.bham.ac.uk/sue_blackwell/politics
Assault is Assault
01.08.2003 10:08
secondly: there *was* an assault on CPGBers outside Marxism, as the peice i put up clearly shows: the fact that the SWP didnt cut peoples' heads open doesnt make it any less of an assault unless you think it only counts as assault if there is X amount of bruises etc..a ridiculous position to take..
thirdly: quoting from a publication does NOT imply wholehearted agreement with that organisations politics...i take it that the SSP of which you have said you are a member never uses figures taken from government sources?
Gerk Francis
e-mail:
gerkfrancis@hotmail.com
I hate them I hate them I hate them I hate them
05.08.2003 12:30
lovesick