Skip to content or view mobile version

Home | Mobile | Editorial | Mission | Privacy | About | Contact | Help | Security | Support

A network of individuals, independent and alternative media activists and organisations, offering grassroots, non-corporate, non-commercial coverage of important social and political issues.

Greens support Civil Rights March

Norwich Green Party | 26.10.2005 19:16 | Cambridge

At 8.30am on Friday 28 October a Civil Rights March made up of many concerned individuals and organisations from different political backgrounds will start from the Bandstand at Eaton Park.

It will process through every ward in Charles Clarke's Norwich South constituency, ending at his office on Castle Meadow at 1pm when an Open Letter of Concerns and Demands will be presented. At noon on Saturday 29 October outside Charles’ office on Castle Meadow there will be a follow-up Demonstration for Human Rights.

Councillor Adrian Ramsay, who (standing for the Green Party) challenged Charles Clarke at the general election earlier this year, will be at Eaton Park on Friday morning, at the start of the march. He said: "The erosion of basic human rights under this Government is of grave concern. Measures such as restricting the right to trial by jury, the shoot to kill policy and the proposed increase in the amount of time suspects can be held without a trial all undermine the basic principles of justice and of 'innocent until proven guilty'. Our ancestors fought hard for these rights. We should not give them up lightly.

"Recent attempts by Charles Clarke and the Government to deport suspects to countries where they could be tortured is particularly unacceptable.

"I am pleased that these concerns have now reached the very heart of Charles Clarke’s constituency, and so am delighted to be taking part in this protest."

Such demonstrations as will take place this Friday and Saturday mornings, with placards, music, loudspeakers and other traditional forms of protest, are now routinely outlawed by police outside Parliament and the Home Office. This is why grassroots Norwich human rights protesters have transferred such protests to the home ground of the Home Secretary. Throughout the month of November there will be leafleting in the streets to encourage debate on these serious issues, street theatre and public meetings.

Green Councillor Rupert Read will also be among Friday's marchers, and he said, "This is a march for civil rights. I know from personal experience how dangerous New Labour's new laws are for civil rights in Britain. Like Walter Wolfgang at the recent Labour Party Conference, I have been threatened with arrest under the Terrorism Act for such 'crimes' as standing with a banner on Whitehall, or with an upside-down American flag in front of Buckingham Palace, during President Bush's visit. The laws which Charles Clarke has brought in - and he is threatening to bring in even more repressive laws, as we speak -- are spelling the end of free speech and of democratic peaceful protest in this country. Mr Clarke has to be stopped - and that is the message from this march."

Green County Councillor Andrew Boswell and many other Green members and supporters will also be on the march: they will also be outside Mr Clarke's office for the culmination of the march, at around 1pm.

Norwich Green Party
- e-mail: webteam@norwichgreenparty.org
- Homepage: http://www.norwichgreenparty.org

Comments

Hide the following 7 comments

Greens support themselves and noone else

26.10.2005 22:52

There is nothing wrong with being green - its admirable in fact to wish to save us all from our selves. Capital 'G' Greens ( The Green Parties) however are as fascist as any political party member. By definition, by self-selecting themselves as fit to govern us all, they are as psychopathically violent as any other politician. All Greens are fascist, whereas all greens/environmetalists are humane.

Don't be confused - anyone who asks for your vote thinks they know better than you and so is unworthy of power, unworthy of your support. The Greens are just environmentally-minded Nazis. Thats why you never see Greens protesting the Iraq war, it doesn't profit them personally. The best of them only care for their own personal agrandissement. Thats why the Green Party candidate stood aganist Rose Gentle in the last election while even right-wing candiadates stood aside- they don't care about Iraq as much as they care for themselves. Iraqi genocide isn't a Green issue after all.

To hell with the reds, to hell with the Greens. Black is the only freedom.

Danny


Quick clarification

27.10.2005 11:20

Small point of clarification to the above post: as far as I can see the Tories, Lib Dems, SNP and Labour all stood against Rose Gentle. Only party that I can see that didn't stand was the SSP. Now, I'm not their biggest fan, but I wouldn't characterise them as right-wing...

Leam


ridiculous exaggeration

27.10.2005 12:57

While I agree with Danny that the Green Party is not going to bring about meaningful social change (we need look no further than Germany to see what happens when they get into power), I think his suggestions that "All Greens are fascist", "psychopathically violent", "environmentally-minded Nazis"...is ridiculous. It's just crap...it's like saying all anarchists are violent lunatics who just want only to smash stuff up for fun.

There are examples of right-wing enviromentalists but I have to say I've never met them. The Greens that I have come into contact with (here in Cambridge and elsewhere) are socially progressive, left-leaning, anti-war, etc...fundamentally decent human beings who just happen to believe that an electoral approach is valid. I disagree with them, but this does not make them Nazis.

Having said all that, this posting doesn't really belong on indymedia as it basically just there to promote the green party...which is a breach of the editorial guidelines. As such, as a member of the editorial collective of Cambridge IMC, I've written to the Norwich Greens asking them to keep the press releases off the newswire.

poon


complicity

27.10.2005 13:16

Sorry, that was a terribly written post but you are wrong. I was referring to the Save the Scottish Regiments candidate, although it was perhaps unfair of me to refer to them as right-wing, I'm sure their campaign is seen by most anarchists as right-wing simply for being concerned with soldiers. The other parties refused to stand down unless the smaller Green party stood down first. I'm no fan of the SSP either but they were admirable in their support of Rose and more importantly in their continual denunciation of the Iraq war. I also appreciate the fact that they give away a lot of their salary rather than personally profitting from their cause, unlike the Greens. However, they would be quite happy to pass laws that they see as just and I don't so I oppose them too.

I'm seen various posts here by socialists complaining that their posts are removed simply for being reprints of party press releases, and that's fair enough in my opinion. However, the Green party seems to suffer no such censorship and I wonder why what applies to one party doesn't apply to them all. I assume it is because most people believe the Green spiel about being 'parliamentary activists', rather thean the parasites on society that they are. I even know people who see no contradiction in calling themselves anarchist while belonging to that political party. Companies are often criticised for 'green-washing', but Green parties are simply green-washing capitalism on a larger scale.

When your own government is using your taxes to commit genocide then I think you have a duty to oppose that everyday anyway that you can, and I don't see the Greens doing that. Learn, climate change and peak oil aren't going to affect any of the millions of Iraqis that your taxes have already murdered and buying police forces bicycles sums the party up in a nutshell.

Danny


The ban on political parties only applies to Respect

27.10.2005 13:21

You're mistaken, it's allowed for the Greens to post.. like SSP, Revolutionary Communist Group, IWCA etc. It's only Respect who are banned, because we hate the SWP.

type


To Poon this time

27.10.2005 14:13

My first post was written in anger at the Green press release seemingly getting preferential treatment, my second post was aimed at Leam before I'd read yours. I'd call the nicest, most just, and most benevolent law-making politician a Nazi fascist or any such puerile inaccurate insult as they are usurping my right to choose freely. While I can see the difference between the Greens and the BNP, they both think they have the right to send the police to enforce their will on me. Now, I can hit out at the policemen themselves but that just gets me beaten up, so I condemn anyone who issues orders and I feel contempt for anyone who follows them.
"A man who puts his hand on my shoulder to control me is a usurper and I will strike him down."
Me, I don't want to strike anyone down, but I do shout, swear, threaten, exaggerate and generally act like a spoiled child at anyone who would govern me. If politicians play any positive contributary role in society, which I doubt, then the worst people to be trust with power over others are those who volunteer for the role and we should choose such officials randomly like jury members, preferably just from the female side of our species.

I'd stand by the violentally psychopathic remark though. All political power is enforced through violence and if you aren't a psychopath for wishing such power then you will soon be corrupted by it. I'm no psychologist but I've read that the exact same qualities that are found in successful male politicians and successful male businessmen are also typical of psychopaths. The very desire for political power over others, even in its milder forms, is the root cause of all war and oppression. Individual Greens doubtless are sweet as spice, but power corrupts and their desire for power over others makes me lump them with every other party.

Danny


Greens?

28.10.2005 10:17

Why are they called the Greens when they are all White?

Memory-Hole-Catchers-Mitt


Upcoming Coverage
View and post events
Upcoming Events UK
24th October, London: 2015 London Anarchist Bookfair
2nd - 8th November: Wrexham, Wales, UK & Everywhere: Week of Action Against the North Wales Prison & the Prison Industrial Complex. Cymraeg: Wythnos o Weithredu yn Erbyn Carchar Gogledd Cymru

Ongoing UK
Every Tuesday 6pm-8pm, Yorkshire: Demo/vigil at NSA/NRO Menwith Hill US Spy Base More info: CAAB.

Every Tuesday, UK & worldwide: Counter Terror Tuesdays. Call the US Embassy nearest to you to protest Obama's Terror Tuesdays. More info here

Every day, London: Vigil for Julian Assange outside Ecuadorian Embassy

Parliament Sq Protest: see topic page
Ongoing Global
Rossport, Ireland: see topic page
Israel-Palestine: Israel Indymedia | Palestine Indymedia
Oaxaca: Chiapas Indymedia
Regions
All Regions
Birmingham
Cambridge
Liverpool
London
Oxford
Sheffield
South Coast
Wales
World
Other Local IMCs
Bristol/South West
Nottingham
Scotland
Social Media
You can follow @ukindymedia on indy.im and Twitter. We are working on a Twitter policy. We do not use Facebook, and advise you not to either.
Support Us
We need help paying the bills for hosting this site, please consider supporting us financially.
Other Media Projects
Schnews
Dissident Island Radio
Corporate Watch
Media Lens
VisionOnTV
Earth First! Action Update
Earth First! Action Reports
Topics
All Topics
Afghanistan
Analysis
Animal Liberation
Anti-Nuclear
Anti-militarism
Anti-racism
Bio-technology
Climate Chaos
Culture
Ecology
Education
Energy Crisis
Fracking
Free Spaces
Gender
Globalisation
Health
History
Indymedia
Iraq
Migration
Ocean Defence
Other Press
Palestine
Policing
Public sector cuts
Repression
Social Struggles
Technology
Terror War
Workers' Movements
Zapatista
Major Reports
NATO 2014
G8 2013
Workfare
2011 Census Resistance
Occupy Everywhere
August Riots
Dale Farm
J30 Strike
Flotilla to Gaza
Mayday 2010
Tar Sands
G20 London Summit
University Occupations for Gaza
Guantanamo
Indymedia Server Seizure
COP15 Climate Summit 2009
Carmel Agrexco
G8 Japan 2008
SHAC
Stop Sequani
Stop RWB
Climate Camp 2008
Oaxaca Uprising
Rossport Solidarity
Smash EDO
SOCPA
Past Major Reports
Encrypted Page
You are viewing this page using an encrypted connection. If you bookmark this page or send its address in an email you might want to use the un-encrypted address of this page.
If you recieved a warning about an untrusted root certificate please install the CAcert root certificate, for more information see the security page.

Global IMC Network


www.indymedia.org

Projects
print
radio
satellite tv
video

Africa

Europe
antwerpen
armenia
athens
austria
barcelona
belarus
belgium
belgrade
brussels
bulgaria
calabria
croatia
cyprus
emilia-romagna
estrecho / madiaq
galiza
germany
grenoble
hungary
ireland
istanbul
italy
la plana
liege
liguria
lille
linksunten
lombardia
madrid
malta
marseille
nantes
napoli
netherlands
northern england
nottingham imc
paris/île-de-france
patras
piemonte
poland
portugal
roma
romania
russia
sardegna
scotland
sverige
switzerland
torun
toscana
ukraine
united kingdom
valencia

Latin America
argentina
bolivia
chiapas
chile
chile sur
cmi brasil
cmi sucre
colombia
ecuador
mexico
peru
puerto rico
qollasuyu
rosario
santiago
tijuana
uruguay
valparaiso
venezuela

Oceania
aotearoa
brisbane
burma
darwin
jakarta
manila
melbourne
perth
qc
sydney

South Asia
india


United States
arizona
arkansas
asheville
atlanta
Austin
binghamton
boston
buffalo
chicago
cleveland
colorado
columbus
dc
hawaii
houston
hudson mohawk
kansas city
la
madison
maine
miami
michigan
milwaukee
minneapolis/st. paul
new hampshire
new jersey
new mexico
new orleans
north carolina
north texas
nyc
oklahoma
philadelphia
pittsburgh
portland
richmond
rochester
rogue valley
saint louis
san diego
san francisco
san francisco bay area
santa barbara
santa cruz, ca
sarasota
seattle
tampa bay
united states
urbana-champaign
vermont
western mass
worcester

West Asia
Armenia
Beirut
Israel
Palestine

Topics
biotech

Process
fbi/legal updates
mailing lists
process & imc docs
tech