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dodgy bullshit -

07.03.2007 09:25

There's some bits in your script I have to pick up on (problem is this looks like it's just been re-posted by someone who won't have answers or replies, but is coming from a dodgy messed up place?):

What is DYR?
Deir Yassin Remembered

> Bewildered by their viciousness, I then started to monitor what is known as the Palestinian solidarity activity of
> the Jewish people in the UK. For the first time in my life I confronted the real meaning of Diaspora Jewish
> identity, for the first time I learned what segregation and Goy hating is all about. For the first time in my life I
> realised how devastating Jewish lobbying is. I summarised my impression in a satirical piece that was
> comprised of genuine quotes made by those very few JAZ
I know nothing about the people or groups you're talking about, but there's lots of informal and organised UK Jewish Palestinian solidarity, such as Jews for Justice for Palestinians.
You didn't confront the "real meaning of Diaspora Jewish identity", unless you are generalising and discounting all Jews, which would be anti-Semitic and just plain bullshit.
I'd hope you mean Zionist lobbying - Jewish lobbying just means lobbying by someone who is Jewish, for their local school not to close down, or whatever; ditto bullshit.

> Apparently, Greenstein has a lot to hide, his personal history is tainted with some unsavoury unlawful activity.
> Yet, this is not the issue here. I do not care much
Unlawful can be morally right. And if it's not the issue, don't fucking mention it (again and again)!

> I am tired of people being labelled Nazis, anti-Semites and Holocaust deniers
Whatever the truth of this case, when people are any of the above, they should be named as such.

> The solidarity movement should move forward, it is all about Palestine rather than about the four or five UK
> Marxist Jews who care solely about anti-Semitism.
Don't believe the SWP - it's not and what you think, it has moved forward.

whatever


clarification

07.03.2007 09:52

"Jewish lobbying just means lobbying by someone who is Jewish, for their local school not to close down"

So, if a group of parents lobby to save their local school, they are involved in Jewish lobbying and non-Jewish lobbying?

If a group calls itself "Jews for/against X" I can see that might be a Jewish lobby. If an individual Jew joins a local campaign I don't think it would be on to start referring to them as a 'Jewish lobbyist'.


Eva Watt


sounds

07.03.2007 12:23

like.Let him who has had stones thrown at him throw the first stone.

jesus2


i'm with stupid (ie Gilad Atzmon should not be on this newswire)

07.03.2007 17:43

Having read the link above, to what Tony Greenstein wrote, I'm with him.

GA's views are anti-Semitic fucking dodgy shit, and should be deleted from this newswire as against editorial guidelines.

whatever


'fucking dodgy shit'

07.03.2007 18:20

"Having read the link above, to what Tony Greenstein wrote, I'm with him.

GA's views are anti-Semitic fucking dodgy shit, and should be deleted from this newswire as against editorial guidelines."

Hmm, I've looked at the article that Greenstein links to - it places the quote in context.

Which part of Atzmon's argument are you disputing?

dogma detector


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