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They will never have CUBA

posted by F Espinoza | 18.06.2007 12:38 | Globalisation | Social Struggles | Workers' Movements | London

“Whoever attempts to conquer Cuba will only gather the dust of her soil soaked in blood, if he does not perish in the fight”, exclaimed Maceo...





Reflection and Manifesto for the People of Cuba

They will never have CUBA

I hope that no-one say that I am gratuitously attacking Bush. Surely they will understand my reasons for strongly criticizing his policies.
Robert Woodward is an American journalist and writer who became famous for the series of articles published by The Washington Post, written by him and Carl Bernstein, and which eventually led to the investigation and resignation of Nixon. He is author and co-author of ten best-sellers. With his fearsome style he manages to wrench confessions from his interviewees. In his book, State of Denial, he says that on June 18, 2003, three months after the Iraq war had begun, as he was on the way out of his White House office following an important meeting, Bush slapped Jay Garner on the back and said to him:
“Hey, Jay, you want to do Iran?
“Sir, the boys and I talked about that and we want to hold out for Cuba. We think the rum and the cigars are a little better...The women are prettier."
Bush laughed. “You got it. You got Cuba.”
Bush was betrayed by his subconscious. It was in his mind when he declared what scores of dark corners should be expecting to happen and Cuba occupies a special place among those dark corners.
Garner, a recently retired three-star general who had been appointed Head of the Post-War Planning Office for Iraq, created by secret National Security Presidential Directive, was considered by Bush an exceptional man to carry out his war strategy. Appointed for the post on January 20, 2003, he was replaced on May 11 of that same year at the urging of Rumsfeld. He didn’t have the nerve to explain to Bush his strong disagreements on the matter of the strategy to be pursued in Iraq. He was thinking of another one with identical purpose. In the past few weeks, thousands of marines and a number of US aircraft carriers, with their naval supporting forces, have been maneuvering in the Persian Gulf, a few miles off the Iranian territory.
It will very soon be 50 years since our people started suffering a cruel blockade; thousands of our sons and daughters have died or have been mutilated as a result of the dirty war against Cuba, the only country in the world to which an Adjustment Act has been applied inciting illegal emigration, yet another cause of death for Cuban citizens, including women and children; more than 15 years ago Cuba lost her principal markets and sources of supply for foods, energy, machinery, raw materials and long-term low-interest financing.
First the socialist bloc collapsed followed almost immediately by the USSR, dismantled piece by piece. The empire tightened and internationalized the blockade; the proteins and calories which were quite well distributed despite our deficiencies were reduced approximately by 40 percent; diseases such as optical neuritis and others appeared; the shortage of medicines, also a result of the blockade, became an everyday reality. Medicines were allowed to enter only as a charitable act, to demoralize us; these, in their turn, became a source of illegal business and black-market dealings.
Inevitably, the “special period” struck. This was the sum total of all the consequences of the aggression and it forced us to take desperate measures whose harmful effects were bolstered by the colossal media machine of the empire. Everyone was awaiting, some with sadness and others with oligarchic glee, the crumbling of the Cuban Revolution.
The access to convertible currency greatly harmed our social consciousness, to a greater or a lesser degree, due to the inequalities and ideological weaknesses it created.
Throughout its lifetime, the Revolution has taught the people, training hundreds of thousands of teachers, doctors, scientists, intellectuals, artists, computer engineers and other professionals with university and post-graduate degrees in dozens of professions. This storehouse of wealth has allowed us to reduce infant mortality to low levels, unthinkable in any Third World country, and to raise life expectancy as well as the average educational level of the population up to the ninth grade.
By offering Cuba oil under favorable terms of payment at a time when oil prices were escalating dramatically, the Venezuelan Bolivarian Revolution brought a significant relief and opened up new possibilities, since our country was already beginning to produce her own energy in ever-growing amounts.
Concerned over its interests in that country, the empire had for years been planning to destroy that Revolution, and so it attempted to do it in April 2002, as it will attempt to do again as many times as it can. This is why the Bolivarian revolutionaries are preparing to resist.
Meanwhile, Bush has intensified his plans for an occupation of Cuba, to the point of proclaiming laws and an interventionist government in order to install a direct imperial administration.
Based on the privileges granted to the United States in Bretton Woods and Nixon’s swindle when he removed the gold standard which placed a limit on the issuing of paper money, the empire bought and paid with paper tens of trillions of dollars, more than twelve digit figures. This is how it preserved an unsustainable economy. A large part of the world currency reserves are in US Treasury bonds and bills. For this reason, many would rather not have a dollar crisis like the one in 1929 that would turn those paper bills into thin air. Today, the value of one dollar in gold is at least eighteen times less than what it was in the Nixon years. The same happens with the value of the reserves in that currency.
Those paper bills have kept their low current value because fabulous amounts of increasingly expensive and modern weapons can be purchased with them; weapons that produce nothing. The United States exports more weapons than anyone else in the world. With those same paper bills, the empire has developed a most sophisticated and deadly system of weapons of mass destruction with which it sustains its world tyranny.
Such power allows it to impose the idea of transforming foods into fuels and to shatter any initiative and commitment to avoid global warming, which is visibly accelerating.
Hunger and thirst, more violent hurricanes and the surge of the sea is what Tyranians and Trojans stand to suffer as a result of imperial policies. It is only through drastic energy savings that humanity will have a respite and hopes of survival for the species; but the consumer societies of the wealthy nations are absolutely heedless of that.
Cuba will continue to develop and improve the combative capacities of her people, including our modest but active and efficient defensive weapons industry which multiplies our capacity to face the invaders no matter where they may be, and the weapons they possess. We shall continue acquiring the necessary materials and the pertinent fire power, even though the notorious Gross Domestic Product as measured by capitalism may not be growing, for their GDP includes such things as the value of privatizations, drugs, sexual services and advertising, while it excludes many others like free educational and health services for all citizens.
From one year to the next the standard of living can be improved by raising knowledge, self-esteem and the dignity of people. It will be enough to reduce wastage and the economy will grow. In spite of everything, we will keep on growing as necessary and as possible.
“Freedom costs dearly, and it is necessary to either resign ourselves to live without it or to decide to buy it for its price”, said Martí.
“Whoever attempts to conquer Cuba will only gather the dust of her soil soaked in blood, if he does not perish in the fight”, exclaimed Maceo.
We are not the first revolutionaries to think that way! And we shall not be the last!
One man may be bought, but never a people.
Fate decreed that I could survive the empire’s murderous machine. Shortly, it will be a year since I became ill and, while I hovered between life and death, I stated in the Proclamation of July 31, 2006: “I do not harbor the slightest doubt that our people and our Revolution will fight until the last drop of blood."
Mr. Bush, don’t you doubt that either!
I assure you that you will never have Cuba!

Fidel Castro Ruz

June 17, 2007

2:03 p.m.




Other Websites:

 http://www.granma.cubaweb.cu/secciones/reflexiones/esp-007.html (Serie completa de las reflexiones de Fidel, en varios idiomas)

 http://www.antiterroristas.cu

 http://www.freethefive.org

 http://www.cubainformacion.tv




"Video de Fidel en la Mesa Redonda del martes 5 de Junio":


 http://www.granma.cubaweb.cu/secciones/siempre_con_fidel/art-077.html

 http://www.juventudrebelde.cu/cuba/2007-06-05/conversacion-con-el-comandante-en-jefe-fidel-castro-video/

 http://www.rebelion.org/noticia.php?id=51874





Visit also, about CUBA Solidarity:


 http://www.cubacoop.com.

 http://www.cubacoop.com.

 http://www.cubacoop.com.

posted by F Espinoza

Comments

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Conquering Cuba

18.06.2007 13:35

Who would want to? It's hardly a great prize. It's a totalitarian dump, with no free elections and a terribele standard of living. The Cubans should be ashamed of themselves for allowing themselves to be so misused for so long. If they had any self respect they'd kick out their tinpot dictator.

simon


Probably...

18.06.2007 14:34

Dear Simon, no doubt Cubans are waiting for your indispensable help...!

Garfield


Police State

18.06.2007 14:38

just because they are america's enemy doesn't make the cubian state ok - i have a lot of sympathy for the cubian people but not the state...try getting free access to the internet in cuba, for example.

RPG


Ignorance

18.06.2007 15:16

The ignorance, stupidity and arrogance of RPG and Simon know no bounds. The internet for RPGs information is controlled by the US, Cuba's access to the internet is restricted precisley because of the US blockade which has been in existence since 1960. In spite of the shortages and other problems caused by the blockade Cuba, unlike other similar countries in Latin America, has free health care, free education and no slums existing on the outskirts of the major cities.

Dave


of course...

18.06.2007 15:30

If you can read a little in spanish:


Cable submarino Venezuela-Cuba favorecerá a países caribeños


Caracas, 30 may.- La estatal TELECOM-Venezuela y la industria cubana Transbit constituirán una empresa mixta para la construcción de un cable submarino de fibra óptica que favorecerá las conexiones entre países caribeños, se conoció hoy en esta capital.
El anuncio fue hecho por Julio Durán, presidente de TELECOM-Venezuela, quien resaltó que esa empresa contribuirá a fortalecer la integración regional impulsada por el presidente Hugo Chávez, reportó PL.
Señaló que este será el primer cable submarino del Caribe, el cual superará 10 veces la capacidad de todos los cables existentes en dicha región.
Durán explicó que el cable contará con dos bifurcaciones, una próxima a Cuba y la otra a Venezuela, que posibilitarán la interconexión con otros países del Caribe y Latinoamérica.
Con ello se permitirá a varios pequeños estados caribeños acceder a servicios de telecomunicaciones con un costo mucho menor que los ofrecidos actualmente por operadores privados.
Durán ratificó que el cable de mil 552 kilómetros de longitud tendrá capacidad para más de 20 millones de llamadas simultáneas.
También podrá transmitir hasta 26 mil canales de televisión y acceso a Internet en banda ancha.
La conexión partirá desde La Guaira, en la zona central del litoral venezolano, y entrará a la mayor isla de las Antillas por la playa Siboney, en la oriental provincia de Santiago de Cuba.

 http://www.ain.cu/2007/mayo/mayo30iggcable.htm




Con Internet se rompe el monopolio de la información

JR reproduce fragmentos de una entrevista concedida por el viceministro cubano de Informática y las Comunicaciones, Jorge Luis Perdomo Di-Lella, al sitio:

 http://www.cubasi.cu

Por: Aday del Sol Reyes
Correo:  informaticajr@jrebelde.cip.cu
07 de junio de 2007
Cuba trabaja hoy para transitar aceleradamente hacia la informatización de la sociedad, a pesar del bloqueo impuesto a la Isla por el gobierno norteamericano hace ya más de cuatro décadas, que intenta frenar el desarrollo tecnológico de la Isla.
Así manifestó al sitio Cubasí.cu el viceministro cubano de Informática y las Comunicaciones, Jorge Luis Perdomo Di-Lella, quien ratificó que el país «tiene el firme propósito de desarrollar la red de Cuba y propiciar que todas las personas puedan acceder masivamente a ella».
Igualmente expresó que para la Isla, la aparición de Internet ha significado la posibilidad de romper el monopolio de la información, porque nos permite llegar a todos los rincones del mundo con la publicación de nuestra realidad.
—¿Cómo se prepara Cuba para transitar aceleradamente hacia la informatización de la sociedad?
—Cuba defiende algunos conceptos que considera fundamentales. La concepción de las Tecnologías de la Información y las Comunicaciónes (TIC) no como fin, sino como poderosa herramienta para incrementar la eficiencia y la competitividad del país, con la correspondiente elevación de la calidad de vida del pueblo, o nuestra concepción de que la informatización debe hacerse sobre un sistema socioeconómico que se base en la justicia, la equidad social y la solidaridad entre los hombres, son algunos de estos criterios claves.
«Ejemplos de los esfuerzos de la nación por transitar aceleradamente hacia la informatización de su sociedad resultan el sustancial mejoramiento de la infraestructura tecnológica, mediante costosas inversiones, y la masiva y profunda preparación del capital humano desde edades tempranas. Todo esto, pese a las conocidas limitaciones económicas, exacerbadas con el cruel bloqueo económico impuesto por Estados Unidos.
«En materia de recursos humanos, considerado como principal activo, podríamos mencionar los más de 11 000 alumnos que se preparan en nuestros centros de educación superior con un alto nivel profesional. Esto incluye, y es bueno destacarlo, la consolidación de la Universidad de las Ciencias Informáticas (UCI) como el mayor proyecto de formación de ingenieros de esta rama en todo el país; los institutos politécnicos de Informática, donde estudian 38 000 jóvenes de la enseñanza media, y los más de 600 Joven Club de Computación, a todo lo largo del país, donde se han capacitado más de un millón de cubanos de todas las edades.
«Además, en los centros de enseñanza se ha logrado que todas las escuelas dispongan de recursos informáticos y audiovisuales como herramientas para el aprendizaje, incluso aquellas más remotas, electrificadas con paneles solares, y hasta de un solo alumno.
«Nuestro modelo de informatización prioriza la introducción de las TIC en sectores claves como la salud, la educación, los centros científicos, instituciones culturales, etcétera, y es reconocido ya universalmente como alternativa para los países pobres y llamado, por algunos expertos, como “apropiación social de las TIC”.
«En los años de Revolución, en medio del criminal bloqueo que ha durado casi medio siglo, se han logrado satisfacer, con un acceso universal, las necesidades primarias de salud, educación, deporte, empleo, desarrollo cultural, libertad y participación política, protección y asistencia social, a la par del desarrollo científico-técnico que en algunas ramas nos sitúan en un lugar destacado a nivel mundial».
—En noviembre de 2006 en Cuba se registraron 1 370 sitios .cu, 940 000 usuarios de correo electrónico y 219 000 usuarios de Internet. ¿Qué cifras se registran actualmente y quiénes continúan favoreciéndose de Internet como medio de conocimiento y desarrollo en nuestro país?
—Estos datos se calculan al cierre de cada año, por lo que es muy temprano para dar nuevas cifras; pero sin dudas sigue creciendo el número de usuarios de estas tecnologías.
«A partir de las limitaciones impuestas por el bloqueo estadounidense, el país ha adoptado una política orientada al uso social e intensivo de los escasos recursos de conectividad y medios técnicos, buscando extender sus beneficios a la mayor parte posible de la población y las instituciones, y dando prioridad a nuestros científicos, profesionales y estudiantes que se conectan desde sus centros de trabajo, universidades e institutos de investigaciones, fundamentalmente.
«Desde finales del pasado año se comenzó a brindar acceso a la navegación por la Red Cuba desde los Joven Club, lo cual se extenderá al resto de sus instalaciones en la medida que se creen las condiciones necesarias.
«El acceso a estas tecnologías irá en aumento en dependencia de las posibilidades tecnológicas y financieras del país. Tenemos el firme propósito de desarrollar la red de Cuba y propiciar que todas las personas puedan acceder masivamente a ella».
—¿Cómo afecta en el área de las telecomunicaciones el bloqueo impuesto a la Isla?
—El bloqueo norteamericano no solo impide la adquisición de equipamiento y programas informáticos desde compañías norteamericanas; por su carácter extraterritorial persigue cualquier operación comercial con empresas de otras nacionalidades. Mediante presiones y chantajes se intenta boicotear cualquier operación comercial con Cuba.
«En el caso de las Telecomunicaciones, además, han manipulado los fondos pertenecientes a empresas cubanas del sector, los han congelado y posteriormente desviado para supuestas indemnizaciones a familias de terroristas y mercenarios que han sido víctimas de sus propios actos ante la justa decisión de defensa de nuestro pueblo. Eso no tiene otro nombre que robo.
«Ahora, por ejemplo, la mencionada persecución se expande a la web. Ya no se trata solamente del Departamento del Tesoro, vigilando e impidiendo que instituciones y ciudadanos norteamericanos utilicen la web para transacciones electrónicas hacia instituciones cubanas; se bloquea, con igual desfachatez, la descarga de software e informaciones (incluso aquellas gratuitas), si el número IP se identifica con Cuba.
«Sobre la conexión de Cuba a Internet es conocido que la misma se remonta al año 1996, cuando el gobierno norteamericano, un tanto ilusionado con los efectos desestabilizadores que vaticinaban tendría este medio para la Isla, otorgó la licencia para el acceso a través de un canal satelital con escasos 65 Mbps de ancho de banda para la salida y 124 Mbps para la entrada.
«Hoy, a pesar de que muy cerca de las costas cubanas pasan cables internacionales de fibra óptica, lo cual garantizaría mayor velocidad de conexión y costos significativamente menores, las leyes del bloqueo impiden la conexión a ellos.
«En nuestro caso, la utilización de Internet posibilita romper el monopolio de la información y nos permite llegar a todos los rincones del mundo con la publicación de nuestra realidad y la comunicación con todas las personas e instituciones que accedan a la red».
—Para muchos es básicamente un problema de soberanía tecnológica que Cuba migre a Linux. ¿Qué piensa usted al respecto y cómo se realizará esta permuta?
—Realmente lo que Cuba se plantea es migrar hacia plataforma de software libre y Linux es tal vez el sistema operativo libre más conocido.
«Hay dos aspectos importantes para nosotros que justifican una migración, que son la seguridad y la independencia tecnológica. Sin dudas, la utilización del software libre es parte de la aproximación paulatina a nuestra soberanía tecnológica como elemento del desarrollo sostenible de las infocomunicaciones y debe constituirse en una fortaleza de las Tecnologías de la Información y las Comunicaciones como dimensión de la seguridad nacional.
«La resuelta voluntad de avance del país hace imprescindible remodelar estrategias y acciones que contribuyan al constante incremento de los niveles de seguridad de nuestras redes y la permanente preparación de nuestros profesionales.
«El uso del software libre permite conocer qué hace la aplicación y podría, junto con otros mecanismos que se implementen, contribuir a que no exista posibilidad de fuga de información que comprometa la seguridad del país.
«La migración constituye un reto para nosotros, tanto en recursos materiales como en aspectos de capacitación, y será necesario también realizar cambios en las formas de trabajar. En estos momentos se estructuran aspectos organizativos y de aseguramiento que permitan potenciar las condiciones necesarias para facilitar la migración en las instituciones del país».
—Las Tecnologías de la Información y las Comunicaciones son parte de los nuevos proyectos integradores de colaboración con marcada dimensión social, como es la puesta en marcha de un sistema internacional de telecomunicaciones entre Venezuela y Cuba. ¿Pudieras explicar el objetivo de este convenio?
—Se ha informado en la prensa la importancia de este propósito. Un sistema de este tipo le daría la posibilidad a nuestro país y los países del ALBA de tener más independencia en el manejo de los tráficos de datos y de voz, y posibilitaría un soporte más sólido y de mejores prestaciones, donde se podrían mejorar los servicios sustancialmente, así como su seguridad e invulnerabilidad.

 http://www.juventudrebelde.cu/cuba/2007-06-07/con-internet-se-rompe-el-monopolio-de-la-informacion/

Garfield


Sicko !

18.06.2007 15:37

"try getting free access to the internet in cuba, for example"

Rearrange these words to suit you. Fucking-deal-big. So internet access is hard to come by in cuba - odd, I've seen several posts from western activists there in the past week. But refresh my memory, when did having access to a US regulated internet count as a basic human right ? I'd have thought the fact that Cubas literacy rate outstrips both the US and the UK might count for something ( at least among the numerate among us). I'd have thought the fact that Cubans have access to a free quality health care system - which is still denied to those in the heart of the empire - might count for something. There are two sorts of anarchist that slag off national liberation movements - ineffectual purists and state-infiltrators - so which sort are you ? And remind me again, what fucking use has 'free access to the internet in' the UK been to you ? Except for the freedom to criticise those 'official EU/US' enemies on the frontline ? Pendejo!

Danny


viva zapata,viva che,most of all viva the people

18.06.2007 15:48

Hopefully comrade Che understands now that people need more freedom in Cuba, anarchists want to stop capitalism too,

Nestor makhno


Question

18.06.2007 16:08

Would any of those who have posted above please ket me know the date of the last cuban general election ?

Representation of the people is the manifestation of full rights. Imposed dictatorships are Facist. Castro and his rulling family do not have a mandate from the Cuban people. He is a dictator

True anarchist


Cuba, my view

18.06.2007 16:16

The support that Cuba and the unjust, illegal regime of Fidel Castro receives on the IMC network is just pathetic.

Castro is an enemy of America so therefore we just overlook the human rights abuses, the political prisoners, the lack of democracy ?

The Cuban people deserve the support of those IMC sites that support free speech, political freedoms and human rights elsewhere in the world. If Cuba received 1/10th of the publicity Israel does on IMC we might just be able to make changes there.

word from up north


Our next statue of liberty

18.06.2007 16:45

is gifted to Cuba

France


True lies

18.06.2007 17:43

True anarchist ?
True anarchist ?

"Would any of those who have posted above please ket me know the date of the last cuban general election ?" - True anarchist

yeah, sure, just as soon as you tell us when the last free general election that you approve of was held in the UK.

And why not mention how many countries the Cuban government has invaded and occupied without a mandate ?

There are a number of fake anarchists here, really state-infiltrators, who are posting discreditable nonsense against any national liberation movement that Blairites oppose.

Ya fucking basta's.

Chavez, Castro, these people do deserve some minor criticism - from any anarchist who truly oppose their own states, not these obvious MI5 flunkies who are cheerleading our own home-grown imperialist genocides.

True anarchist my arse.

Danny


MI5 !

18.06.2007 18:06

MI5 ? Well that's the first time I've been accused of that !

Well in that case the cheques have not been arriving !

A one person dictatorship is not Anarchist. The fact that Blair, Bush and others don't like Castro doesn't mean we should.

On an intellectual level alone Cuba under Castro cannot be defended and watching you try is very funny.

True anarchist


Faker

18.06.2007 19:06

"On an intellectual level alone Cuba under Castro cannot be defended and watching you try is very funny."

Eh, I'm not defending them, I am attacking you.
So where is your intellectal argument, your defence ? And more than that, first give me some sense of why you can claim to be a 'true' anarchist ? What have you done to overthrow our own murderous state for you to claim to be trueer than the rest of us ? Cos slagging off our genocidal states official enemies isn't credentials. Show me some links of actions you have been arrested on that gives you the right to criticise other states without criticising your own, to claim to be a 'ture' anarchist implying the rest of us are fakers.

You are either a 'useful idiot' or a fraud, an agent. I know MI5 agents post here criticising Castro and Chavez - but never Blair or Bush - while claiming to be anarchists. So what is your bacj-story - cos there hasn't been anyone posting under the name 'true-anarchist' here before - and I doubt anyone would be stupid enough to claim such a superior pseudonymn unless they had a proud history of dissent behind them that.

Danny


Too right, Danny

18.06.2007 19:57

Just like the old days on Usenet, fending off the guys with suits and shiny shoes - you could see them even through their words.

Cuba's okay - sense of proportion in order as it has a real mean oligarchy breathing down its neck all the time. Not fertile ground for the dilution that is the fake called democracy.

Stuff it spooks, you're getting so boring. Just look at all the Skull&Bones, Langley and Oxford types blathering out the same old twisted crap about Chavez over on aljazeera. Stuff it spooks - Iran's up on the net now - so's we'll at least get another and opposite totalitarian view? Hey, they claim Negroponte blew up the Shrines ( http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=11326&sectionid=351020201) - fits his past record for sure. I guess USification of aljazeera has now to be classed as yet another nail in the coffin for decent people just looking for a simple life.

They sure ain't going to get it until the insatiable greedy's hiding behind the Federal Reserve Corporation and its parent the Bank of England are entirely sated - in other words - never.

Rock on Castro - I don't like you but I sure admire the quality of life you have secured for most people on your 'assymetrically' beleaguered little island.

Rock on Chavez - you are showing common decency in the face of outrageous provocation. Just how would it be in the States, if the MSM started plotting the downfall of the Bush Reich? Can you imagine? Chavez put up with those who did their damndest to oust him for years after the coup. He waited for the licence to expire - how cool is that?

Go watch Aaron Russo's film Amercia:From Freedom to Fascism', you spook characters, then check in a mirror and ask yourselves - 'Is this really what I want for my kids'?


Bon*Chance


about Cuba...

18.06.2007 21:47


Stay calm, my dear "true anarchist"; you can read a lot about Cuban elections in:

 http://www.granma.cubaweb.cu/secciones/elecciones/index.html


Posting information about Cuba reality in the Indymedia's has the purpose of breaking the misinformation, the lies or the silence "free and democratic's" traditional medias usually deserves our revolutionary island... inform yourselves visiting these alternative medias that are involved in the transformation of our World as Cuban people and cuban medias are.

The most pathetic thing is that there is no MI5, French, Spanish, German or other European Secret Services working "independently" on this... but US government who dictates Europe what's right or wrong... and europeans agrees.

Better visit Cuba, you won't be deceived

F Espinoza


Ignorance

18.06.2007 22:57

Dave, if you really think that the US is why Cubans don't have access to the internet you are a total idiot.

The Cuabn state strictly controls internet access because it is a nasty dictatorship that hates free speech. It's as simple as that.

simon


Not a Scottish MI5 agent in Cuba called Peppa is there ?

18.06.2007 23:00

And so 'true anarchist' appears, smears and disappears. How 'true' was that ? It was a real lesson though to all of us. we are being infiltrated by crappy propagandists.

For you innocents amongst you reading this, this is not unusual, some of us 'old-timers' have learned to spot this state-propaganda that masquerades as protest. Strangers arrive claiming to be anarchists, they demean official state enemies for little reason, and then they disappear witjout defending their turf. Some day I won't be here to expose them, most days Bon Chance will be busy elsewhere. You have to start challenging peoples fake credentials when they start smelling fishy. If anyone comes on too strong, "I'm a better anarchist than you", that sort of bullshit, call them on it. It is amazing how quickly they evaporate. MI5 do post here regularly. You can learn a lot from their propaganda, simply by analysing the things they post against. They have active British agents in Cuba, but I can't mention names as they would force IM to hide them. Anyone who has seen Peppa the Pig knows what I mean though.

We live in a Stasi society, and yet thanks to people like the IMCistas we remain free. We are losing but most of us remain free, and we are in the majority, we could overthrow this war-machine tommorow if we collectively chose to.

So what sort of morons do our public schools produce, do our secret services recruit from, that they can claim to be 'true anarchists' while posting obvious state propaganda. They insult our intelligence. A middle-clss anti liberation anarchist ? Nein Danke.

So from the 'untrue anarchists' to the MI5 infiltrators, to Peppa the Pig , Dick McCane, the Belgian Ludd de Treux, the more you spin nonsense the more we love you for your incompetence. What a cool port to site a tee-pee. Who are you fueling ?

Cuba Libre, the UK too, well, eventually with a lot of hard work, sacrifice and vigilence against spook-plants and self-proclaimed MI5. You have history and we have learned it.

Danny


its pretty simple

20.06.2007 15:53

britains a capitalist shithole where our civil liberties are being taken away by the day.
cubas a communist shithole where they've hardly got any civil liberties.
all you daft swp muppets who support cuba cause 'theyre anti-imperialist' can go fuck yourselves.
p.s has no-one brought up what happens to you if your gay in castros cuba?? or does it not want to be brought up?

anarchist


Get your facts straight, muppet

21.06.2007 12:50

1. The SWP have as shit a view on Cuba as you do. You'd go well together. I recommend you join.

2. Gay people have not been oppressed by any official means in Cuba since the 1970s - about the same time the law changed in Britain. There's some prejudice but where isn't there? Answer to your question 'what happen's to gays in Castro's Cuba?' is probably they go to the thriving gay scene in Havana, or otherwise get on with their lives like anyone else.

communista


Gays in Cuba

24.06.2007 21:09

Communista, gays have a terrible time in Cuba. They are not allowed to vote in free elections, they can get executed if they try to escape their socialist paradise and their government bans them from having free access to the internet.

simon


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