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G20 Flashpoint? Will demo be deliberately turned into a violent event?

Tony Gosling | 15.03.2009 01:13 | Analysis | Social Struggles

Will G20 demo be deliberately turned into a violent event facilitating a right-wing clampdown on Civil Liberties in Britain? Will the G20 demonstration end up alienating hard-working activsts from the great bulk of the public whose support they need if their actions are to have any wider resonance?

Inspector Chris Dreyfus - Provocateur?
Inspector Chris Dreyfus - Provocateur?


Will G20 demo be deliberately turned into a violent event?
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diggers350/message/2180

Apologies if this comes across as patronising but it is so important to have at critique of this big up-and-coming event.

Please be aware that this event is likely to be riddled with Police, Mafia/Organised Crime and Intelligence services' Agents Provocateurs. The way they work is to infiltrate and influence genuine activist groups and they are almost entirely unaccountable.

Those lawless fanatics who want World War Three to get going as soon as possible are probably already looking closely at this event to make it as violent as possible, for innocent people to be hurt and to use that in the press as an excuse for yet further clampdowns on hard won Civil Liberties in Britain.

My own personal feeling is that unless all organisers make it absolutely clear that there will be no toleration of ANY violence, or risk of violence, against the person as well as serious stewarding and report-back measures in place to prevent agents provocateurs inflitrating the event then I would not take an active part. Organisers should consider showing they are not being influenced and manipulated by outside forces, by showing their organisational committment to proactive non-violence.

Please remember that the 7/7 London Bombings (that many believe to be a 'false flag' attack facilitated by the Israeli Defence Force) also took place at the time of a big international conference.

BT 4.1, 7/7 London Bombings - investigative terror documentary
 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1898995800774523510

Israeli Connections to the London Tube Bombs.
 http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2009/02/israeli-connections-to-london-tube.html

Tony


see also
George Galloway exposes Police Agent Provocateur
 http://chimesofreedom.blogspot.com/2008/06/george-galloway-exposes-police-agent.\
html

Agent provocateur - From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur

Tony Gosling
- Homepage: http://www.public-interest.co.uk

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Please!

15.03.2009 02:41

You think they need a reason to clamp down on civil liberties? Rightly or wrongly people use violence in an attempt to free themselves from oppression not because they are police infiltrators or right wing loons.

The Bush demo 'provocateur' is highly questionable if not disproven( http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=3531). Of course we should be watching out for police infiltrators but the authoritarian measures you are calling for are an extension of the restrictions of our liberty made by government and capitalism.

Your post seems deeply rooted in conspiracy theory, paranoia and self interst.

Those that are not non-violent are not necessarily advocating violence, only the ability to use a diversity of tactics.
 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nonviolence-Protects-State-Peter-Gelderloos/dp/0896087727

M@tt


Please!

15.03.2009 03:04

You think they need a reason to clamp down on civil liberties? Rightly or wrongly people use violence in an attempt to free themselves from oppression not because they are police infiltrators or right wing loons.

The Bush demo 'provocateur' is highly questionable if not disproven( http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=3531). Of course we should be watching out for police infiltrators but the authoritarian measures you are calling for are an extension of the restrictions of our liberty made by government and capitalism.

Your post (and website) seems deeply rooted in conspiracy theory, paranoia and self interest. This is not a good basis from which to debate non-violence.

Those that are not non-violent are not necessarily advocating violence, only the ability to use a diversity of tactics.
 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nonviolence-Protects-State-Peter-Gelderloos/dp/0896087727

M@tt


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