Remember the farrago of lies the Met came out with after they shot Jean Charles De Menezes? He was wearing a big bulky bomber jacket. He ran into the tube station and jumped over the barriers. He got up and came towards the cops when they boarded the train.

All proved to be lies.

Don't believe a word of what they're saying now.

I think we'll find some CCTV cameras were either "switched off", suddenly "defective" or ooops! footage "accidentally" deleted.

That's why accurate accounts of what happened not only need to be got to lawyers pronto, but also publicised.

If you saw anything which was, or might have been relevant, do what it says above. Don't exaggerate anything or fill gaps with assumptions. If some part of your account is what someone else told you rather than what you saw yourself, make this clear. In general, accounts should be first-hand, but there's nothing wrong with "Someone told me X so I went to the corner and saw Y and Z."

Remember, pseudonyms or anonymous accounts are fine for Indymedia or other publicity, but sod all use to lawyers. They have to be able to contact you to make use of the info. you give them.

can we blame all the police for this murder or all of those on the ground, many of whom seem to be ready to strap on their helmets & help us. Who ordered the kettle, the chief con, johnson,brown or sq mile CEOs?????
I wasnt at the scene,please lets not turn this "war" full scale, the world cant afford it in more ways than 1. Direct democracy is within our grasp if we keep our heads disciplined, someone should lose their job for this death & any provocatuers trying to provoke violence against people, should stop protesting & get a life, wether they work for police or private security firms, the BNP or misguidance.
If I see coppers try to hurt any of us Iam one of the first of many ready to help stop police doing that by force if forced, in self defence& we have reinforcments too allover the world.
RIP the Unkown protestor,we need more info on this matter asap please,does anyone have family-friend details after they hear so we can support them.
Shame on media companies exploiting this against people&democracy, ever wonder why you get hacked so much & people are turning more to indymedia+ people reporting??

The S(p)un claim that it was an "heart attack" but the article gleefully an knowledge that he was "Knocked" to the floor amid the mob near the Bank of England...

The S(p)un continues to spin the line about Police being pelted but fails to mention that the small handful that were throw stopped as soon as the situation became clear.

lets stay cool though, maybe we should just surround the bank as long as it t@kes for abit of positive change& definetley not be provoked by provocatuers in uniform.
The Chief con, Gbrown or any CEO who tries to order anymore crackdowns better be vvvvvv.careful, we do have people everywhere vvvvdeep:)pe@ce

 http://www.javno.com/en/foto.php?id=19&rbr=13134...

This is a link to a picture of the man that died. Don't click on it if you find such pictures disturbing.

I do, but it didn't stop me zooming on the photograph and seeing the bruises on his head and face.

I was not present at the detah of this man, however I was at the G20 protests all day yesterday and witnessed unprovoked police brutality like nothing I have ever seen before.

At Bank I witnessed people being beaten around with batons being ordered to move when they had nowhere to go - We were already being crushed in a police kettle. This was the kettle were we had been pushed by police into the RBS building and held there, assaulted and then the police stood and watched while a small number of people reacted by breaking RBS's windows. The police allowed this to happen for a good hour before stepping in to move the crowd on.

In the evening outside Climate camp the police were again being excessively heavy handed and a large group of protestors outside the kettled Climate Camp (of which I was part) decided to sit on the ground to show that we were none threatening and not give them any excuse. The police then proceeded to kick people who were sat down in the face. (It is worth noting that the polce had already blocked that road off so at this point the protestors were not even stopping traffic).

The group were then chased by Riot Police the length of Bishopsgate as far as Kingsland Road (a good 20 minute brisk walk). We ran through complete fear, anyone in their way was being beaten. Some people attempted pulling barriers etc into the road to try and slow police down but with no avail.

At the point they stopped chasing us a number of people dispersed. Some of us returned to the Camp to try and check if people there were ok. Some people had been let out, the camp had been cleared and those unnaccounted for we assumed were in police cells of hospital beds.

By contrast a large protest took place yesterday afternoon at trafalgar square with several thousand people from the same groups / organisations as the other demos, but with one exception, virtually no police presence. At this demo, there was no violence, no damage. The demo took place, the speakers said there piece then everyone went home. Coincidence ?

There were headlines of Violence Sweeps City and Protestors Clash with Police etc yesterday morning before any demos had even started. I guess the police had to justify their £7m bill somehow which they couldn't if all was peaceful so provoking a few clashes to jusify their presence seemed to be the order of the day. . .

I had also heard that an autopsy is being planned I sure hope in hell that it isn't done by the Police... I don't know where I heard this from but it was yesterday that I heard it.

Being a bit sanguine about this - in a protest consisting of thousands of people which, by its nature, is a high pressure, high excitement event, it would be very surprising if someone *didn't* have a heart attack or similar. Every year a handful of people die running the London Marathon for various reasons (out of about 35,000), so it is possible - without making assumptions - that this was nothing sinister at all. Obviously being penned in wouldn't help, but it night have happened at any other time.

By all means report what you saw, but please don't level accusations at anyone unless you did see something suspicious.

BTW: I am anti-civ / anti-capitalist, so am not writing from any pro-police angle.

The police were very brutal yesterday on the streets, but I also saw them being very restrained in some areas. I witnessed shift changes where the riot police were pelted with bottles, empty cans, signs etc but did not react against the crowd of drunkards - cos let's also be clear after dark there were a lot of pissed up people around looking for a ruck with the police and quite a few were dressed down city boys and others who had come down after work. This always tends to happen when the press and police go into riot prediction overdrive before such events.

RIP unknown.

this cant go on, stop messing with the people or they will eventually pick you off one way or another.

ThedaProle...How do you know the person in that photo is the person that died? Oh I see, you made it up. How original.

I just watched the pictures of the person that died while still on the ground when he was probably still alive, and his face skin tone just does not look right, it has sort of a greenish colour... how can this be?? its no heart attack side effect, can it have been caused by the police tear gas or other sort of chemical??

StroppyOldGit:- "Don't exaggerate anything or fill gaps with assumptions."



Then we have...

"the camp had been cleared and those unnaccounted for we assumed were in police cells of hospital beds."

"can it have been caused by the police tear gas or other sort of chemical??"

The camp was cleared by EG police forces charging into the camp at about 1am. People were rounded up and taken away by police in 3 London double-decker buses.

Latest at 12:05pm The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) says it is to "assess" the death of man at a G20 demonstration in London on Wednesday. Investigators will be examining CCTV footage and attending the post-mortem this afternoon, it says in a statement.

BBC world service: Police said the man, thought to be in his 40s, died on Wednesday evening after bottles were thrown at him and he collapsed.

You would believe a policeman wouldn´t you?

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7978105.stm

Seven foot Yank says that he was "mixed" up in the demo.. of course was close enough to see what was happening say that as he ran back from the police line he fell over and hit his head on the ground so hardly from "Natural Causes". The accounts given by the Yank describes him as in his 50's and smelling of drunk and under some form of drugs.

Well we seen the pictures and he not in his 50's... suck up cunt and anyway why was you there?

Bottles were thrown at him and he collapsed? That's pissed poor. They keep changing the story.

Why were the police who were trying to help this man pelted with rocks and bottles?

Because they were in Riot Gear and people thought that they were Snatch Squads. According to the Yank that only happen for a brief seconds and people turn around and told them to stop. When you are on the ground you can't see beyond the first two or three people in front of you. The yank say that it happen as they took him away again. I assuming people thought that he was aright and was being dragged away..

Tribute march to highlight 'police repression' as witnesses tell how unnamed man stumbled and fell

 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/02/g20-summit-protester-death

The G20 protester who died on Wednesday.

The first witness accounts have emerged of the final moments of the protester who died in the City last night at the end of a day of violent G20 protests.

The man, who is believed to have been in his 30s, but has not been named, collapsed in St Michael's Alley close to the junction of Birchin Lane and Cornhill at 7.30pm.

A tribute march to the dead man is taking place in the City this lunchtime. Its organisers are also using the event to highlight what they term "the enormous police repression that happened against protesters outside the Bank, the Climate Exchange and elsewhere in the City of London" yesterday.

Jasper Jackson, 23, from London, who photographed the man's collapse, said he had been standing in front of a line of police dog handlers minutes before he fell over. "The picture I have of him is of him stumbling in front of the protesters and in front of the police dogs looking dazed," he said. "He had a glazed look on his face. Then it was drawn to my attention that somebody shouted to the police with a loud hailer that there was a casualty and said, 'Can we get a medic?' "

Jackson said the man was then surrounded by police officers who were pelted with at least one missile.

"There were a couple of people throwing bottles in that general direction," said Jackson. "But they were told to stop doing that by the crowd. In fact, some people in the crowd threatened to kill them if they did anything to disrupt the treatment."

According to other witnesses present, lines of riot police had been sweeping down the street just before the man fell in an attempt to move protesters away from the bank. Sporadic scuffles broke out, with police using their batons intermittently. There is no suggestion that the man's death was caused by anything other than natural causes.

Another witness, Fran Legg, said she and a friend had rushed to help the man after they realised he was not well. "People were calling out: 'Please, we need medics over here'," said the 20-year-old student, from Tavistock, in Devon. "Someone called an ambulance." Her friend put the man in the recovery position and noticed he had blood on his face and was losing consciousness.

Legg said protesters were calling for people to move back and give the man space as eight police officers arrived. By the time the ambulance reached the scene 10 minutes later, the man was very white and could hardly breath.

Elias Stoakes, 25, also a student at Queen Mary, from Exeter in Devon, said: "There were a lot of people around him trying to help him and asking for medics.

"One or maybe two plastic bottles were thrown, but it was by people further back in the crowd who did not know what was going on. There definitely wasn't a rain of bottles.

"There were lots of us gathered around him telling people to give him space. The idea that protesters did not care is completely false."

Scotland Yard said last night that a member of the public alerted police to the collapsed man. A police spokesman said: "That officer sent in police medics through the cordon line and into St Michael's Alley, where they found a man who had stopped breathing. The officers took the decision to move him as, during this time, a number of missiles – believed to be bottles – were being thrown at them."

A London ambulance spokesman said: "Our staff immediately took over the treatment of the patient and made extensive efforts to resuscitate him both at the scene and on the way to hospital."

The death has been referred to the police watchdog, the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC), as is routine in such cases. A spokesman said: "IPCC investigators will be assessing the circumstances throughout the day. They will be examining CCTV and attending the post-mortem this afternoon, as is usual in cases of this nature.

"When all the available information has been assessed, the IPCC will make a decision about the level of involvement it needs to have in progressing the investigation into this case."

The directorate of public standards at both the Metropolitan and City of London police have also been informed.

As much as I hate to use it to back me up *cringe*

The Daily Fail -  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1166349/Fears-fresh-violence-police-pelted-bottles-try-save-dying-protester.html

 http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?Protesters_came_to_the_aid_of_dying_man&in_article_id=607263&in_page_id=34

Fran Legg, a politics student studying at Queen Mary, University of London, said: "I heard people shouting that there was a man down on the ground and I saw there was someone lying on the pavement on his back."
She said her friend went to help him while she stayed a few metres further back.
The 20-year-old, from Tavistock, in Devon, said: "People were calling out: 'Please, we need medics over here'.
"Someone called an ambulance."
She said her friend put the man in the recovery position.
He had blood on his face and was losing consciousness.
About eight riot police arrived with police medics and stood around the man.
Miss Legg said protesters were calling for people to move back and give the man space and she said the majority of people co-operated.
She said the ambulance arrived about 10 minutes later, by which time the man had gone very white and was having breathing difficulties.
She said by the time police medics took over from her friend, the man had fallen unconscious.
Elias Stoakes, 25, also a student at Queen Mary, from Exeter in Devon, said: "There were a lot of people around him trying to help him and asking for medics.
"One or maybe two plastic bottles were thrown, but it was by people further back in the crowd who did not know what was going on.
"There definitely wasn't a rain of bottles.
"There were lots of us gathered around him telling people to give him space.
"The idea that protesters did not care is completely false."

Any support has been lost by the twisting of lies to justify your presence.Is there nothing more reprehensible than using the death of someone to vilify your own agenda?
Firstly (1) Witnesses said the incident happened outside the police cordon, in which officers were holding the main body of demonstrators.
(2)Police medics who tried to help him after he collapsed at about 7.30pm in St Michael's Alley say they were pelted with bottles and rubbish by the crowd.
Pathetic work
Pete

You said "we assumed were in police cells of hospital beds".

Notice the word "assumed" that you used previously. That means that your not exactly clear in what your saying.

So how does the link you produced to the Daily Mail "back you up" in anything? *even bigger cringe*.

There were a number of people yesterday wandering round looking disorientated, some of whom had just been battoned on the head. We all need to be looking out for each other & should recognise the symptoms of head injuries, especially when no wound is apparent. These include:

-Being disorientated, irritable, or combative. If you see someone with a bloody face baiting the police the head wound might have something to do with it...
-Dark rings forming around the eyes, or pale yellow liquid coming from them
-Dark patches forming behind the ears
-Vomiting & dizziness
-Unresponsive pupils

This can lead to shock, which can kill. Keep the person warm & make sure someone is looking out for them in case they lose consciousness. If they show any of the above symptoms they should be taken to a hospital. Unless severe, or damage to the spine is suspected (eg if blow is delivered to lower part of the skull) people should try and take the injured person themselves, as calling an ambulance to the scene of such protests can bring more police.

Ideally, lots of activists should educate themselves with first aid or do some action medic training:
 http://actionmedics.org.uk/basicfirstaid.html#Internal

It's sickening the way the media have downplayed this man's death.
The police are responsible. Whether it was the consequence of a blow to the head or a heart attack, it would not have happened had they not behaved in the appalling way that they did, which created a highly stressful and dangerous situation. Bottom line.
Yet another death on police hands.

Objective, The person in the photograph is dead. its quite clear, theyr having CPR.

"You said "we assumed were in police cells of hospital beds".

Notice the word "assumed" that you used previously. That means that your not exactly clear in what your saying.

So how does the link you produced to the Daily Mail "back you up" in anything? *even bigger cringe*

Erm... I didn't actually say anything like that.

As for the photograph in the Mail, it was simply to back up my own observation and investigation into the man that died. It appears that a few other media sources are now showing this picture too.

Contrary to media reports, people did not pelt the police as the man who died during the G20 protests was being taken out. Andrew Kendle reports from Wednesday night’s protest frontline

 http://www.redpepper.org.uk/Death-in-the-City

'Action Medic' commenting above is right. The cops ARE to blame but if we are serious about our solidarity we should all be taking responsibility to keep each other alive. Brutal policing is only going to get worse i reckon, with incoming tasers and mis-use of anti-terrorist laws and we need to be prepared to defend ourselves and support each other properly.

"It's sickening the way the media have downplayed this man's death."





It's also sickening the way you lot have overplayed this mans's death for your own anti-police agenda.

Since CJ was there then maybe he/she could give us fact as to really what happen here as nobody seem to know for sure... Exploiting this man's death is reported from little their is and we have to make judgement from that and make conclusions giving the history of police cover ups, naming, Miners Strike, Hillsborough, Charles de Menezes naming a small few, create a version of events but yet at the same time are you are upset as there no media coverage of the event, I sorry if such comments upset you but there we are... what else can we go on?

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