No NATO Newport planning meeting

Any NATO linked event or protest always attracts a police attendance.
Mask up (even in the meeting) and use only first names.

First of all don't be daft fitwatcher, masking up in a meeting is ridiculous and would simply create a daft paranoid situation (most attending would not do it quite apart from anything else). Also the bland mantra of "Peace, jobs, blah". Microelectronics and automation long ago made vast numbers of us superfluous to capitalism, those numbers are only set to increase and dramaticaly. We need now to confront the fact that it is up to us to create an entirely different way of living. The "Peace,jobs, blah" 'business as usual' crap has got to go.

This will be a large open public event, organised by local residents who are well known to the police and most anyone else who takes an interest in local events. Anyone wearing a mask at the meeting is just going to look silly, and may have trouble ordering coffee.

There probably will be cops there, but hiding your identity from them and successfully organise anything large is very unlikely, mask or not.

As I spoke about above once NATO is involved the cops very quickly take an interest. Those of us who have spent the last few years dealing with the massive level of actual and attempted infiltration of protest groups see these tactics often.

"No need to mask up". Why would anybody encourage another individual not to hide their identitiy ? Because of course they have an interest in being able to film and record them, this data is then cross referenced to other demos, protests and groups adding to the State database of activists. The moment an individual tells you there is no need to mask up with whatever excuse (ordering coffee !!!!) be suspisicious and avoid them.

Other tips

Work only with those known to you whose background has been verified, Mark Kennedy was able to become involved because people just took him at his word, a few basic background checks would have unmasked him much earlier.

Avoid electronic communication, assume any email, text message or facebook post is monitored. Work face to face and have meetings in the open air where possible.

Be wary of new people keen to become heavily involved very quickly. Give them a few low focus jobs first to let them prove their bona fides.


Final thing - don't forget the police now have the right to use Schedule 7 terror laws to interrogate people and they do !

 http://netpol.org/2012/12/12/schedule-7-terror-laws-used-to-interrogate-activists/



Experienced Fitwatcher

"There probably will be cops there, but hiding your identity from them and successfully organise anything large is very unlikely"

Errrrr no ! That's the point the Fitwatcher was making, mask up and they WILL NOT know who you are.

... seen Four Lions? I think probably you should give it a watch. ANTI-SURVEILLANCE COMRADES.

Seriously, you're a bit mad aren't you?

I see stage two of the police standard tactic has arrived.

Stage One - suggest that what is being suggested is not required

Stage Two - suggest that those who are still encouraging the 'unnaceptable' behaviour is "mad"

In many ways this is good as it shows they are taking the protest seriously and are prepared to devote resources to try and stop it.

Keep it up everyone !

Look, this is clearly going to be an initial opening meeting presumably to sort out lists of stuff needed things like infrastructure - getting hold of tents/kitchens/transport/land etc - amongst many other things. The sort of meeting your grandad or daughter will be coming to. Get a grip fitwatcher ( check out the world outside your specialism once in a while - yer getting myopic and decidedly cranky )

Exactly the point I was making, this will be the meeting when new faces turn up, the sort of meeting the cops will infiltrate to add new people to the database and start the process of intimidation and pressure that follows political activity in this country.

But of course you know that because you are a cop are you not ?