Skip to content or view mobile version

Home | Mobile | Editorial | Mission | Privacy | About | Contact | Help | Security | Support

A network of individuals, independent and alternative media activists and organisations, offering grassroots, non-corporate, non-commercial coverage of important social and political issues.

Bristol Indymedia and "the world we are striving to create"

freethepeeps aka Roy Bard | 27.06.2013 01:11 | Indymedia

"Bristol indymedia is intended to represent the world we are striving to create, rather than the world we live in".

Fine words indeed, but do they mean anything?


Thanks to our most prolific troll, tensions between Bristol Indymedia and this site are once again on the agenda. Their recent article Indymedia UK : It’s time to move on has not gone the same way as another recent article Syria - a call to action, which was hidden as "Not Bristol Related" despite the fictitious claim that it was authored by a Bristolian.

Nor have the Bristol mods hidden an article which falsely claims that"a petition from hundreds of Bristol people making clear we regard Julian as a hero of the people who deserves unqualified support" was delivered to the Ecuadorian Embassy. Referring to that article, one IMC uk mod noted:

"The comments section is peppered with posts clearly submitted by trolls. I strongly suspect that the original post was put up for this purpose - to provide a vehicle for subsequent trolling".

So, why does Bristol IMC hide some lies and not others? In theory it should be easy to find out. As an affiliated IMC, they have signed up to the Indymedia Principles of Unity (POU) which includes the principle that;

All IMC's recognize the importance of process to social change and are committed to the development of non-hierarchical and anti-authoritarian relationships, from interpersonal relationships to group dynamics. Therefore, shall organize themselves collectively and be committed to the principle of consensus decision making and the development of a direct, participatory democratic process] that is transparent to its membership.

Yet emails go ignored, decisions are not explained and their list, unlike that of by far the majority of Indymedia lists remains closed, so that it is not possible to read the archives if you are not signed up to the list.

"This is a closed list, which means your subscription will be held for approval. You will be notified of the list moderator's decision by email. This is also a hidden list, which means that the list of members is available only to the list administrator".

It is surely a cause for reflection, to wonder how a project dedicated to Open Publishing has allowed itself to become a closed group who operate without transparency, and who seem to have a liking for trolling and invented news. It would also be more in line with the POU if they fixed their hidden functions, so that it is possible to view articles and comments that have been hidden. But despite it being pointed out for years that the system is not transparent, no explanation is given and the malfunction continues.

IMC uk strives to check the veracity of posts to the wire, and will not knowingly let lies stay up as news. Our lists remain open, and we are open to discussing concerns that people may have about the way we mod, so long as the discussions take place on the appropriate list. This is therefore an invitation to Bristol IMC to reflect on what they are doing and to engage in a discussion about how to deal with the trolling, so that the news wires can indeed focus on representing the world we are striving to create.

freethepeeps aka Roy Bard

Additions

Articles now hidden

27.06.2013 23:27


@22:46 on the Bristol thread, 'One of Bristol IMC' wrote: "Hi FTP I just checked the email list moderation queue for the first time in weeks. I have approved your emails now and will take a look at the posts you have issue with"

The Indymedia UK : It’s time to move on has now been hidden with the reason given as "Accuracy. Not by BTM, not hidden on http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2013/02/506637.html", and the Bristol support for Julian Assange article has also been hidden, with the reason given as "Accuracy"

.

freethepeeps


Comments

Display the following 11 comments

  1. Not helping the tensions — Just saying
  2. @Just saying — freethepeeps aka Roy Bard
  3. Meh, give me sunshine instead. — anon e-mouse.
  4. attempts were made...? — anonymous
  5. re: attempts were made — freethepeeps
  6. re: attempts were made — anonymous
  7. plenty of time to act/reply — genny
  8. But its not fair :-( — freethepeeps
  9. hmm OK — anonymous
  10. where I'm coming from — freethepeeps
  11. Hidden comments on this thread — freethepeeps
Upcoming Coverage
View and post events
Upcoming Events UK
24th October, London: 2015 London Anarchist Bookfair
2nd - 8th November: Wrexham, Wales, UK & Everywhere: Week of Action Against the North Wales Prison & the Prison Industrial Complex. Cymraeg: Wythnos o Weithredu yn Erbyn Carchar Gogledd Cymru

Ongoing UK
Every Tuesday 6pm-8pm, Yorkshire: Demo/vigil at NSA/NRO Menwith Hill US Spy Base More info: CAAB.

Every Tuesday, UK & worldwide: Counter Terror Tuesdays. Call the US Embassy nearest to you to protest Obama's Terror Tuesdays. More info here

Every day, London: Vigil for Julian Assange outside Ecuadorian Embassy

Parliament Sq Protest: see topic page
Ongoing Global
Rossport, Ireland: see topic page
Israel-Palestine: Israel Indymedia | Palestine Indymedia
Oaxaca: Chiapas Indymedia
Regions
All Regions
Birmingham
Cambridge
Liverpool
London
Oxford
Sheffield
South Coast
Wales
World
Other Local IMCs
Bristol/South West
Nottingham
Scotland
Social Media
You can follow @ukindymedia on indy.im and Twitter. We are working on a Twitter policy. We do not use Facebook, and advise you not to either.
Support Us
We need help paying the bills for hosting this site, please consider supporting us financially.
Other Media Projects
Schnews
Dissident Island Radio
Corporate Watch
Media Lens
VisionOnTV
Earth First! Action Update
Earth First! Action Reports
Topics
All Topics
Afghanistan
Analysis
Animal Liberation
Anti-Nuclear
Anti-militarism
Anti-racism
Bio-technology
Climate Chaos
Culture
Ecology
Education
Energy Crisis
Fracking
Free Spaces
Gender
Globalisation
Health
History
Indymedia
Iraq
Migration
Ocean Defence
Other Press
Palestine
Policing
Public sector cuts
Repression
Social Struggles
Technology
Terror War
Workers' Movements
Zapatista
Major Reports
NATO 2014
G8 2013
Workfare
2011 Census Resistance
Occupy Everywhere
August Riots
Dale Farm
J30 Strike
Flotilla to Gaza
Mayday 2010
Tar Sands
G20 London Summit
University Occupations for Gaza
Guantanamo
Indymedia Server Seizure
COP15 Climate Summit 2009
Carmel Agrexco
G8 Japan 2008
SHAC
Stop Sequani
Stop RWB
Climate Camp 2008
Oaxaca Uprising
Rossport Solidarity
Smash EDO
SOCPA
Past Major Reports
Encrypted Page
You are viewing this page using an encrypted connection. If you bookmark this page or send its address in an email you might want to use the un-encrypted address of this page.
If you recieved a warning about an untrusted root certificate please install the CAcert root certificate, for more information see the security page.

Global IMC Network


www.indymedia.org

Projects
print
radio
satellite tv
video

Africa

Europe
antwerpen
armenia
athens
austria
barcelona
belarus
belgium
belgrade
brussels
bulgaria
calabria
croatia
cyprus
emilia-romagna
estrecho / madiaq
galiza
germany
grenoble
hungary
ireland
istanbul
italy
la plana
liege
liguria
lille
linksunten
lombardia
madrid
malta
marseille
nantes
napoli
netherlands
northern england
nottingham imc
paris/île-de-france
patras
piemonte
poland
portugal
roma
romania
russia
sardegna
scotland
sverige
switzerland
torun
toscana
ukraine
united kingdom
valencia

Latin America
argentina
bolivia
chiapas
chile
chile sur
cmi brasil
cmi sucre
colombia
ecuador
mexico
peru
puerto rico
qollasuyu
rosario
santiago
tijuana
uruguay
valparaiso
venezuela

Oceania
aotearoa
brisbane
burma
darwin
jakarta
manila
melbourne
perth
qc
sydney

South Asia
india


United States
arizona
arkansas
asheville
atlanta
Austin
binghamton
boston
buffalo
chicago
cleveland
colorado
columbus
dc
hawaii
houston
hudson mohawk
kansas city
la
madison
maine
miami
michigan
milwaukee
minneapolis/st. paul
new hampshire
new jersey
new mexico
new orleans
north carolina
north texas
nyc
oklahoma
philadelphia
pittsburgh
portland
richmond
rochester
rogue valley
saint louis
san diego
san francisco
san francisco bay area
santa barbara
santa cruz, ca
sarasota
seattle
tampa bay
united states
urbana-champaign
vermont
western mass
worcester

West Asia
Armenia
Beirut
Israel
Palestine

Topics
biotech

Process
fbi/legal updates
mailing lists
process & imc docs
tech