Deaf Activists Court Case Dropped!
Tomato | 23.05.2001 19:11
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update
23.05.2001 23:07
However, over 100 Deafies and their supporters turned up to support the wolves 6 and it turned into an impromptu march round the block. Wolvie 6 I think a bit disappointed not to have the chance to have their say, except to media -
local reporters.
The court officials were appallingly un deaf-aware (shouting, yes, shouting, at people!) Look out for TV (crew were there -some said from See Hear - but maybe V TV? I don't know) and BDN.
hannah
a note
23.05.2001 23:23
[what's with this obsession with naming media aimed at deaf people after what they can't hear - See Hear, Sound Advantage, Read Hear, The Voice, Speak Out!, and countless others]
V TV = another deaf TV magazine, channel 4?? havent seen it but imagine it also has the odd good story along with countless bumfluff items about the latest thing in vibrating tampons to let deaf people know they have a period or whatever.
BDN = British Deaf News - organ of the British Deaf Assocation, 100 years old, set up to campaign for deaf rights, and after 100 years, have just about established that we have the right to be patronised and treated like shite as long as we accept our place in society, and vote for the right party (which one? any one!) when we're told to.
Hope that helps.
David Livermore
"Is BSL the same as ASL?"
25.05.2001 14:36
Respectfully yours, Robert Meade "Bobby" "Israel" Deaf Messenger
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Sign language is universal?
26.05.2001 10:25
Daniel Brett
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Is sign language universal?
30.05.2001 21:41
Sign language is probably the best form of communication when it comes to international situations. Unfortunately this is not recognised and many others tend to see sign language as 'mumbo jumbo' - which are both offensive and ridiculous.
British Deaf people have their own language (BSL) which has not yet been recognised by the British Government, despite the fact that it is in fact a language which has grammar, vocabulary and is the same as any other language except that it is visual.
BSL is a vital part of 70,000 people who use it as their first or preferred language in the United Kingdom, and it does not get the respect and understanding that it deserves - which leads to Deaf people being marginalised.
Sign language needs to be reinforced into society - which will help BOTH hearing and Deaf people. For example, when you go scuba diving - how do you communicate? How do soldiers during combat communicate? - gestures, using signs and visual communication. The uses for sign language are endless... and mainly so that Deaf people can have EQUAL ACCESS which has been denied for decades, even CENTURIES!
It's time for change. RECOGNISE BRITISH SIGN LANGUAGE NOW!
Gavin
Gavin Lilley
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On BSL and ASL
31.05.2001 06:01
Remember first that BSL is one of some 103 other known sign languages around the world. (The list may be increased to 104 if it turns out that Sierra Leonean Sign Language is a distinct language.) Check out the Ethnologue (
Some comments about some of the comments posted above:
* American Sign Language has strong roots in French Sign Language, mainly in part because an early 19th century Deaf educator, Laurent Clerc, came to the United States, to a school in Hartford, Connecticut. Clerc knew FSL, which, along with the sign language of the students already in Hartford, became the precursor to present-day ASL. Whether or not it is the "opposite" of English (whatever "opposite" means), I can say this: the syntax of ASL is so unlike spoken American English that the University of Chicago recognizes ASL as a non-Indo-European language, and I was able to earn credit to this effect.
* Members of the Deaf in communities in Chicago, and elsewhere, are fiercely proud of their languages. And many Deaf people I've known here have not purported to claim a stance of isolationism against hearies: quite the contrary, the Deaf community I have known is intimately linked with the hearing community here. Indeed, it's very hard to build an isolation, as many Deaf people are born to hearing people, and hearing people are born to Deaf children (so that you frequently find the case that some hearing children often learn a sign language as their first language).
There are many excellent resources to learn more about Deaf communities, Deaf culture, and sign languages. Among my favorites:
* When the Mind Hears: A History of the Deaf, by Harlan Lane (Vintage Press, 1984).
* For Hearing People Only, by Matthew Moore and Linda Levitan (Deaf Life Press, 1993).
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But most of these resources, admittedly, tell things from an American perspective. Can anyone recommend resources for learning more about the Deaf community in the UK?
Thanks.
Mitchell Szczepanczyk
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Deaf Chair Now!
02.06.2001 19:10
A Deafie
Deaf Chair Now!
02.06.2001 19:11
A Deafie