I think if anyone fails to see that Chris Morris is poking fun at the media and its rent-a-mouth "celebrities" and the negative effects this corporate nonsense throws the baby out with the bathwater they are probably already too brainwashed to jerks their knees to ever understand???

Just how is Chris supposed to make an effeective critique of our major source of information without referring to the information it fixates on in a fashion that is about as helpful at disseminating information and as aspiring to objectivity as Goebbels???

"Excuse you me you are all rubb9ish and talking out yer arses and you are whipping up hysteria and causing misery with your formulaeic mock concern" may look good in a letter of complaint or a student newspaper. But if you want to get the message out there where it's happening, you are sadly left with little option but to put it in a format that will appeal to the media.

Hell, even if he was saying "paedophilia is good!" ( which I don't thiink as a parent is very likely.. I'm sure someone here will know (sic) the statistics and demographics... is free *speech* such a threat???

We all know the media knee-jerk: you mention drugs, abuse, race, the latest enemy etc etc etc you are "glomourising" it or "promoting" it or by your very neutrality you are "condoning" it.

Sorry, but some of us do not want to sing the school song and wear the school uniform like good girls and boys. And that doesn't mean anything more than we wish to excercise our rights to freedom of expression and if that upsets you stop paying lipservice to democracy.

If there are any genuine concerns about Chris Morris or anyone else who has been accused of moral corruption being a danger to the public then the problems is essentially people have been trained to believe and bahave according to the cathode ray tube in the corner of their room. Do ew really have a plaent populated by automatons???

THAT to me is a more frightening prospect than some spoof documentary exposing the sham of the media and government.

Tessa Jowel is a loser and has no life. Anyone who can't take a joke clearly has NO SENSE OF HUMOUR. She's just like Mary Whitehouse in that respect.

As for "tearing down the barriers of decency", I don't believe for one second that Brass Eye has done such a thing but aside from that, I actually believe those barriers *should* be torn down.
And let's examine this idea of 'decency'. If a program is deemed indecent and hence banned then is that not censorship? Do we not abhor censorship? In a liberal society it's up to each individual to decide what they think is 'decent' or not. If you don't like the idea of a TV program then don't watch, it really is as simple as that.
If I think brass eye is funny and a good, worthwhile TV program then who the fuck is Tessa Jowel -nb who hasn't even watched the program- to tell me not to watch it?

Stupid bitch.

Fuck Tessa Jowel

I didn't watch the Brass Eye programme so I can't comment on it.
I believe the reason why so many people fail to see the point of a satirical programme such as this one is because they accept without question the satirical environment in which they live.
We are surrounded by satire.
How can you satirise what is already satirical? For instance, a tabloid front page or some grovelling article about a minor celebrity in OK! or Hello!
How can you take the piss out of Parliament when the polticians are quite capable of doing it for themselves?
Is it possible to joke about a Labour Party that hasn't yet noticed that it is being led by a Thatcherite?
Or about a Labour Government that no longer represents Labour?
You can't even satirise the way our economy is being run. Only a complete idiot would allow it to be dominated as it is by the Stock Market.
As for boardroom salaries and footballers' transfer fees, the facts will always exceed any attempt at exaggeration.
And it is only by exaggeration that satire can make its point.

Well if you want to check out the whole progam for yourselves go here and downlaod it!

 http://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/


:-)

Oh BTW u forgot " a government that has no real mandate"

I did not see the brass eye special. I have no knowledge of it's contents other than the selected high lights which i have read in the daily mail and the independent. I can make no judgement on the nature or value of the programme what so ever.
My interest here is in the reaction. It seems to me to be an element of the programme, chris morrirs from what i know of him, strikes me as a very intellegent person who would be able to foresee the consequences of his actions in this matter. It is my supposition that the programme did not stop with the rolling of the credits, it is still running. Surely the reaction to the show was as intentionally planned as the elements of the programme itself. Mr morris knows that ours is a society all too willing to create and embrace scandal, shock and show. That lead me to look the character of the reaction.

I look at the way people have interperated what they saw and i am concerned. This concern is almost formless, yet i could name an elements: the destination of the politicians pandering to sensibilities with would rather curl up and die than be offended on a thursday night, by an object which for ninty nine percent of the time does nothing more than quietly fill the empty hours of our lives with gardening tips, cooking shows and explorations of the collectively unengaged and unthinking nostril of the country in which i reside, is nothing other than censorship and that is the creation and imposition of restrictions upon a being which if it is to be honest with itself must realise that it is free.

We are being asked to look at the way our (and i realise the impossible generalistions involved in this term) society reacts to programmes like this. i say that there are massive problems which i cannot see because they are my eyes, why do we need and want these reactions to a television show which was in lenght one half of a hour and which for all it's content could not be of half the importance of a single act of violence to another person. Where are these newpapers on matters of real importance? They are not there because it is not news.

It seems to my that Tessa Jowell suggestion of stricter controls of what can be shown on television is a solution of how to tackle the problem of free speech not paedophilia.

The reaction of many to the brass eye episode highlights not the fear of paedophilia but the inability to discuss the topic rationally - something the programme was intending to highlight. The results of demonising paedophiles doesn't seem to benefit anyone much - most of all the people who have suffered because of child abuse. In fact maybe it's these people (not "victims") who would profit most from a non-hysterical debate.

Haha check out today's Daily Mail - they're hysterical. Pissing off the establishment's "morality" and making a joke out of serious issues is what Chris Morris is great at. Respect.

Remember Mary Whitehouse and her organisation the National Viewers and Listeners Association? The group who used to go around censoring programs to "protect" people (if you don't like it turn the TV off for Fuck's sake!). Well beware they're still aroung protecting "public morals" and all that other bullshit except now they'recalled Mediawatch UK (beware!).

Just a warning.

Also note that this entire story is being driven by only a few of the most right wing papers (even the Times is remaining fairly liberal about the whole thing). A cynical attempt to sell papers? No of course not...

Fuck the facist press!!!
Fuck cen***ship!!!

Seldom do I agree with politicians, and maybe this show was deliberately aired to create a backlash to justify more censorship but, when I realized I was laughing, at the expense of the child victims of sex-abuse, especially those preyed on by the Internet network of paedeophiles, I lost my sense of humour.

Channel4 put the "paid" into paedeophile by hiring top-celebrities to mock the methods used by perverts to lure children. One scene showed a child being snatched at the roadside into a car, they made a montage of a child's face with a woman's body and an enormous phallus.

An interveiwer told a nonce, in stocks, "you want to have sex with my son," (seven year old child in sketch) nonce replied, "no I don't," Interveiwer asked, "why not?" The programme ended with very young school girls singing, "I'm not ready to be touched, or kissed, or have sex, not today, or tomorrow, maybe the day after that!"

Tens of thousands of children are suffering this violation, but our society thinks it's a joke.

u fuckaz who post here are either fucking nonces or cops ?! plz leave tha movement and !"*?!"* ... .. fucking blind assholes! they're laughing and twisting your weak minds!

publish these posters IP addresses,tNx.

Late Fri Night, I saw most of the show, and felt that yes it had gone to far, but could not for the life of me work out exactly where.

If nothing else in this way the programme was a success - making me confront my own limits of morality and sensibilities.

One thing that the programme cannot be faulted for is its capacity to make "real life" media look ridiculous, cruel and vapid. It would be a great result if this made some of those reporting on child abuse rethink their cliches and sensationalism.(ritual abuse in cleveland anyone?)

Paedophiles are very warped creatures - this show was in danger of normalising them. This is a dangerous game to play - but preferable to the other extreme of public lynching.

I do not feel dirtied or sullied for having watched it, and applaud the bravery of c4 fro showing it.

Will Chris Morris ever work in this town again..?

The NSPCC are right of course - child abuse is despicable, evil and wrong.

Free speech however, is not..

The fact that the Brass Eye special got made and was broadcast (twice) is something to be celebrated. It was well made and more importantly, hilarious. Sexual abuse isn't funny, but that's not what I was laughing at.

The hypocrisy of the press - in particular the News of the World is much more sickening. The reaction from Tessa Jowell and others was predictable and only confirmed some of the points Chris Morris was making. Anyone who dares to tackle the subject of paedophilia from a fresh angle is bound to be attacked.

Click on the above link, go to "contact us", go to "complaints" enter "Brass Eye (not a complaint)" and write something positive about Brass Eye. They need to know that this program is by no means without its supporters. I think people bother to complain a lot more than they bother to praise and this can be harmful.
Go on, it won't take a minute. :-)