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Update from America

Wankstor X. Muzzlebutt | 11.09.2001 17:28

Since UK Indymedia is the only site I can get into right now....

Multiple hijacked airliners have attacked several targets in the United States.

Two airliners, carrying a total of 156 people, crashed into the twin towers of the World Trade Center Wednesday morning. The first one hit around 1500 UTC; the second hit 18 minutes later.

I watched both towers collapse - within a half hour of each other - on live television. The second plane (believed to be a Boeing 767, with 81 on board) was also captured in the act, and the impact/collapse is being repeatedly replayed. Ground-level camera crews caught frantic people hanging out of the windows of the 110-story buildings in the minutes before they fell.

Here is your sense of scale: Approximately 50,000 people work in the two Trade Center towers. There have been no estimates of casualties; all hospital and emergency/fire workers throughout the State of New York have been mobilized to NYC this afternoon. Hospitals outside of NYC will be staffed by National Guard docs today.

In addition to this, an airliner also crashed into the Pentagon, decimating almost an entire segment of the five-sided structure. The Pentagon is still on fire (as of 1808 UTC). No estimates of casualties there, either.

Another airliner has been reported crashed near Camp David, the President's personal retreat. President Bush was in Florida when the attack occurred; he has since been moved to an air force base in Louisiana (not Washington, D.C. - Vice President Cheney has his fingers on the buttons in the White House 'Situation Room')

A fourth airliner has been reported crashed about 80 miles southeast of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. There have been no additional reports from this scene, except for the news of the crash.

ALL aircraft traffic over the United States has been halted - NO airplanes are allowed to fly anywhere in America. This has never happened before. All inbound international flights have been diverted.

The United States Military is on a war footing. Fighter jets have been scrambled and are patrolling airspace over air bases and major airports. Borders to Mexico and Canada have been sealed.

Congressional leadership has been "moved to a safe place." All federal buildings have been closed and evacuated in Washington. Most states have sealed off their own capitol buildings and state offices; major municipal buildings in other massive cities (like Chicago, Seattle, etc.) and even in mid to large cities are now under guard. Most state and municipal governments in America have activated their disaster response plans, just in case.

Schools are being closed around the country. All major financial markets have also been closed for the day.

Needless to say, the rabble are pretty much in shock, glued to the TV. All televison and radio stations (even those of completely music format) have gone to continuous coverage of the drama. Don't try to call New York - you will NOT get through.

This is not a good thing, as the mainstream media coverage, devoid of new details for the last couple of hours, are into full speculation-and-vengeance mode. Repeatedly re-running clips of the carnage as it unfolded.

The usual suspects (Arab in nature) are being pre-blamed, and it is being bandied about by our political leaders and pundits that this has been an "act of war," with the proper response expected.

Many of my local IMC-istas have checked in, and we're all worrying about the increased domestic repression that may come, both in the long and short-term.

If the worst-case scenario is assumed, the death toll could mount to as much as the United States killed when they dropped the atomic bomb on Nagasaki.

This is big, and we're all pretty much dumbstruck. I am probably missing some details, but that is all I can think of right now.

-wxm

Wankstor X. Muzzlebutt

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Oh, yeah, I DID forget something....

11.09.2001 17:45

...Disney World in Orlando, Florida has been evacuated and closed for the day. The Mouse reels, too.

-wxm

Wankstor X. Muzzlebutt
mail e-mail: systemp@dog.com


US activists preparing to respond

11.09.2001 18:15

Many activists are calling meetings to prepare to respond to government crackdown on civil liberties, interogation, detention or arrests of political activists, especialy arab and middle eastern organizations. We are also preparing should the US government try to retaliate against other countries or communities as they did a couple years ago after a truck bombing of the US consulate in Africa.

Please be prepared to respond to either a US "retaliation" or a crackdown on civil liberties in the US, on activists or on the arab or middle eastern organizations or communities.

I am both mourning for all the folks killed, but also wanting to place it in context of continued US terorist attacks killing people in other countries across the globe. This will dramaticaly shift our strategies for fighting corporate globalization and particularly the IMF World Bank action at the end of this month in Washington DC.

autonomous in San Fran


NWO NO

11.09.2001 19:20

Fight Club meets Die Hard I & II with a vengeance, with many unanswered questions.

Secretary of State Colin Powell said “they” cannot be allowed to undermine globalisation. Who is he talking about, when he says “they?” Islam? Big assumption! He said, that ‘civilized’ world leaders should unite as ‘democratic’ nations to oppose the evil of terrorism.

But like Pearl Harbour, the Pentagon’s early detection systems must have been turned off that day. An enormous defensive failure. And like the Murrah Building, key government employees were unscathed.

Global positioning systems can control air traffic by satellite and where’s the black box?

A cool, unshaken Bush said, ‘freedom’ (to dominate the Earth) will be protected. American land borders have been closed, FEMA will rear it’s ugly head, all rights will be suspended, until they “hunt down” those responsible, with cruise missiles.

Bush said he will utilize all of his military arsenal to retaliate (against who, with what?) Nuclear and chemical weapons or their new strain of deadly anthrax? Fighter planes are patrolling American airspace. The military have deployed F117 Raptors on full “war-time” military alert.

Jumping the gun, Ehud Barak said on Sky News, this requires immediate attacks on ‘Rogue States’ like Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya, (before it’s even been proved who was responsible.)

The UK RIIA expert said a cell within the USA (covert government) must be responsible, Arabs do not have the capability to co-ordinate this scale of attack.

Fragile market share prices nose-dived and oil prices skyrocketed (a bonus!)

Tony Blair said, ‘Operation Cobra’ (serpent) has stepped up security, with police on full alert and British defence facilities around the World are on high alert. Financial institutions are safeguarded.

And reading from the same rehearsed script as Colin Powell, Blair said; the ‘free and democratic’ nations will drive these evil terrorists out, “their barbarism is their shame.”

I’ve been thinking the same thing about Israeli aggression against Palestinians, their inhumanity is their shame!

James Ruben, unscathed said; This is an attack on all the 'civilized' countries of the World, not just America. America must destroy International Terrorists.

So who are the uncivilized countries? hmmm...let's think, Palestine?

The New World Order is out-of-control! God bless their mounting victims. And yes, you guessed it, the US & UK are now at war with Muslims worldwide

John MacLean


the game is up - the endgame is up

11.09.2001 21:15

surely now no contributor to this forum will accept that this is a ben Laden type of attack - the arabs, muslims, palestinians, anti-'democracy' kind of scam. the only organisation with the resources to organise this is CIA/NSA,good ole USA/george w dubya, global capitalism,new world order, illuminati, annunaki- put new age or leftist or anarchist spin on it. choose your conspirators, they're all the same. have they gone too far? choosing the most potent of modern symbolist buildings (well we were trying to 'raise the pentagon' {gram}) in 69 - their own - to destroy. must be the start of the endgame - the restructuring of the global grid.state of emergency 9.11. call out the national guard.watch that global recession going full tilt.lord simpson of dunkeld? - a small fry disruptor of the economy when you can produce a spectacle of this size. have they overstepped the mark? and who will they send cruise missiles to in 'retribution'.will anyone believe this crap anymore? or am i just paranoid

dwight heet


whodunnit

11.09.2001 21:15

Gotta say that at first i jumped to the conclusion that it must have been 'extremists' from the middle east but the more i've thought about it the less it fits. No 'terrorist' group could have decided that this sort of attack would do their cause any good (and would any be able to carry off such a massive operation?), evidently it would be used to further demonise them in the West and turn public opinion against them. The events of today will be used by the US as a pretext for reprisal,of extending their military's reach and power and the US masses will rally round the flag. The only winners will be the US military....

cluedo


AMERIKKKAN INSIDE JOB: World Trade Centre

11.09.2001 21:20

Commentary:
As far as I'm concerned I wouldn't be surprised if we all found out later that this was an inside job!In other words, the Bush administration or the Pentagon itself set up all these crashes.

Why:
Because they are savage enough to do this to benefit their corporate and military friends.

Because they've doen similar nonsense before.

Why would the first DC strike hit NEAR the Pentagon, not directly at the Pentagon?

When a strike later hit tthe Pentagon, it was essentially an unimportant building

Why did this occur when Colin Powell was in Lima Peru and Bush in FLorida?

Why weren't the IMF, World Bank, the White house itself, or the CIA headquaters targetted?

Why didn't the CIA and other intelligence agencies forsee what would happen?

Why was National Public Radio so keen on telling the world that it was a Palestinian group, when the reality was that NO ONE HAS TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY FOR THESE CRASHES!

Why are the media and the Amerikkkan government so keen on suspecting non-Amerikkkan sources for the incident, when it could've been domestic white supremacists!!????? Remember Timothy Mc Veigh? (And why do those non-Amerikkkan sources assumed to be Middle Eastern? That's just plain raicst!!!!

The pilots who aimed the planes at the World Trade Centre were skilled ,professional, coordinated and adept. these are peopleare the types who are often trained by CIA to fly these planes. And Afghanistan and all these places don't have meony for those kinds of planes, nor that kind of training.



broundoff


the nightmare begins

11.09.2001 21:59

exactly brownedoff.this was accurately trained pilots doing this stuff. more MKUltra kind of material than crudely trained truck driver kind of people. and what happened to make those towers suddenly collapse like that? very strictly controlled demolition techniques. all too perfect.

dwight heet


US Coverage - of bombing

11.09.2001 22:02

I watched dozens of stations today in US, in both Spanish and English. Most stations had a heading either at the top or below stating "America Under Attack".

Most of the coverage and images have been reduced to a single idea. "America = Freedom."

I watched students watching the coverage at a US library. There is no sense among them, that I can detect, that the US has often supported terrorist activity in other parts of the world. No idea that 150 000 people died after Arbenz regime wa overthrown in Guatemala. RE Nicaragua - House and Senate backed millions for the contra the same day the US was condemned by the World Court! No idea that their Governemnt has been the perpetrator either directly or by proxy of the deaths of thousands of civilians.

No sense of history. Little curiosity and little insight as to the possibility that other outside the US might not see the world in such simplistic terms of "America = Freedom". The irony is that we have a President who thinks in short blacka nd white sentences. He really does believe it.

It does no service to the thousands of innocents killed today in such shocking circumstances to accept such propagandistic nonsense.

Freedom is in for some serious abuse and it'll take courage to defend it against aggressive arrogant and very dangerous men who want us all to accept "America = Freedom". There is more than one type of fundamentalist at large.

PJ
mail e-mail: pjl9@hotmail.com


conspiracy?

11.09.2001 22:03

Your conspiray sounds logical, though paranoid, too. But would the FBI/CIA kill their own people? The pilots and/or hijackers committed suicide, knowingly; how can you make your employees do that????

Anna


mind control

11.09.2001 22:11

compartmentalistion of the brain thru extreme abuse and trauma. thats the only way the professional piloting of these planes to suicidal destruction could have been achieved. they were dead accurate. does that tell you something?

dwight heet


Washington cancelled

11.09.2001 23:01

FYI: The IMF and WB meetings in DC have been cancelled.

dave


Mainstream News Coverage

11.09.2001 23:08

I've been watching TV off and on since 3:00 GMT (Tuesday) and I'm totally sickened by the gung-ho rhetoric about the attack on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon as being an attack on American freedom, democracy and civilisation - this bullshit from media commentators as well as American and British rent-a-gob merchants.

Where was the USA's regard for freedom and democracy in its sponsorship of terrorism in Central and South America, which resulted in the torture and murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent people? Where were their high-flown ideals about civilised behaviour in the Middle East and South East Asia, and the continuing sanctions against Iraq? Where was there any reference to the business conducted in the World Trade Centre that has impoverished and killed millions in the developing world through the tyranny of American corporate capitalism?



CyberFlea
mail e-mail: CyberianFlea@aol.com


I'm amazed...

11.09.2001 23:40

...that so many of you go in for these conspiracy theories.

That's not a reference to whether or not I agree with them, it's just that I don't really expect people to come up with or believe that kind of thing.

I reckon that there are conspiracies behind some of what goes on in the world but I have no idea how we can ever be sure just how many. Is it a case of the odd conspiracy here and there, or is the world fully controlled by them?

I wonder if there's some kind of logical theorising one could come up with to try to calculate an estimate of what's likely.

I guess, three questions you could ask about a possible conspiracy is whether it would work, whether it would really benefit the people doing it and whether they'd be able to do it.


Anyway, people have been saying how would a hijacker get the pilot of a plane to crash into a building?

Simple, you put a sharp knife by his testicles. Even if you're going down and you know you're going to die you'll still try as hard as you can to hit on target IF someone has a knife to your testicles. Futile maybe, if you're going to die anyway, but entirely understandable.

Robert


bank on it

11.09.2001 23:50

to finance an operation like this you need a bank or a banker. didn't a certain rothschild banking family. finance both sides in both WW1 and 2 ? ..why not WW3.
Muslims and Christians look like the next contenders religion has always been a good excuse for war and nothings changed. the same people who wrote the christian fairy tale , featuring Big G and son, also wrote the muslims version .

Luther blissett


Attack on Democracy

11.09.2001 23:52

GPS, Mind-Control and Tesla Device (controlled explosions) were all in evidence. The NWO will kill anyone, anywhere anytime in any number, for the "greater good," EVIL. The Globalisers are at war with us all.

CIA/NSA/FBI/NWO


Er...

11.09.2001 23:52

... Bollocks.

CyberFlea


last word from me

11.09.2001 23:58

how in the hell with a kife stuck in your balls do you make two buildings collapse so surely. its taking too much of a chance into account. this is collosal. watch the outcomes.

dwight heet


left wing people

12.09.2001 00:11

and you notice the lefties are awaiting the time to post their response to these evil goings on. how can this media be so blank?

dwight heet


Who is responsible

12.09.2001 00:29

The fact that the arab cause will suffer because of the destruction doesn't mean that Arabs didn't do it. Sometimes people act irrationally out of anger and frustration.

Chris
mail e-mail: chris.keene@which.net


take good care

12.09.2001 01:15

everything is possible. but something stinks just too penetrant.

i try to cool down before i get any deeper into this. i mean, can anybody imagine what that really means, an can anybody anticipate the possible consequence? i can't. fuckin hell...

take extra good care, all of you!!

netkat
mail e-mail: kat@net.net


argh, something went wrong with the comment

12.09.2001 01:19

sorry...

netkat
mail e-mail: kat@net.net


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