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Yes, already well on the way there
19.11.2001 19:59
It isn't really about freedom of movement where it starts so much as freedom of thought, eg the Katie Sierra case.
Something similar is happening with Britain and all the Draconian Powers shite, racist asylum laws, abolition of the right to trial, double jeopardy and right to silence, etc etc etc. Email and telephone tapping powers.
We see it in the schoold with all the SAT tests, where kids are taught the stress of competing and buying into the system as young as 5 or 7. All this has to be challenged.
Conformity.
Juke Djordan
Nein
19.11.2001 21:33
Nein
six
the aim is the world as the 4th Reich
19.11.2001 22:23
What a wierd trio we have at the forefront of this criminal government at this time - Blair, Short and Blunkett - three black witches - who'd have thought it 5 years ago.
Watch out for those identity cards, once they filter through from refugee status to the general population. If they're smart, chipped items and double up as credit/debit cards then we know we're in deep trouble and probably past the point of resistance. Let's keep on resisting this agenda and its horrible outcomes, and expose these bastards for what they are.
dwight heet
4th Reich? No
19.11.2001 23:02
sceptic
where's your scepticism?
19.11.2001 23:43
Evidence - the most concrete is the insider dealing in put options in American Airlines, United Airlines, companies within the WTC and insurers in the days leading up to the atrocity, netting those involved tens of millions in dollars, with $5m left unclaimed on the NY stock exchange - all brokered by a firm connected to CIA 3rd in command Director Buzzy Krongard.(copvcia.com) And do you really believe all that shit about Cessna and flight simulators, korans and flight training manuals being left in hired cars,harddrinking lapdancing islamic terrorists, passports appearing out of infernoes,baggage for the suicide run somehow not making it to the hold and containing last will and instructions for islamic suicide missions. This highly sophisticated mission controlled from an Afghan cave, and with no response from air traffic control, an hour or more before fighters take off. Tell me you dont believe this crap! I'm sure you're intelligent and a sceptic!
dwight heet
Unequivocably
19.11.2001 23:50
RESIST NOW!
Carlos Malvado
What must be done
20.11.2001 01:10
Wallace
And there's more
20.11.2001 01:57
dwight heet
A few quibbles
20.11.2001 07:32
Second, the conspiracy devotees whose gospel it is that the WTC towers "must have been" demolished by explosives might find it interesting to take a look at:
Where a failure analysis by Prof. Tom Mackin of the University of Illinois at Urbana can be found. Mackin set out to ask the question "what happens if a floor or floors of a skyscraper drop onto lower floors?", putting it in the form of "A given mass falls a given distance and lands on a structure having a given stiffness. How far will the structure deflect, and will the deflection exceed the breaking strain of the rest of the structure?"
It's only a first-order approximation, in terms of classical mechanics-classical enough that even an electronics guy like myself can understand the math. Nevertheless, any meaningful contention that the fall of the towers was not the result of a chain of structural failures will need to be supported in the same terms- that is, it must refute the existing model of the collapse either by demonstrating specific errors in the analysis, or by demonstrating that a more accurate model gives different results. Simple assertions without support from physics aren't going to cut it here.
No doubt a lot of engineers have been overworking their FEA packages trying to simulate the fall in more detail. Unfortunately, the chances are that their results will be published, if published, in specialized professional publications.
Who'll be the first to demonstrate the workability of their own model on an open forum like Indymedia?
Silas Phelps
don't think so
20.11.2001 10:03
O5stef
don't think so
20.11.2001 10:03
O5stef
Unelected dictator in the White House
20.11.2001 17:03
Herewegoagain
pedantry (with a point)
20.11.2001 17:53
And here's the point; whatever tendencies there are towards totalitarianism or fascism in our societies, they are NOT inevitable. We CAN defend our freedoms, if we organise in a serious and united way.
internationalist
Rome Didn't Fall in a Day
25.11.2001 04:03
Rome Didn't Fall in a Day
The pretorian guard ran the empire in the final days. Similarly, remnants of the 3rd Reich recruited by the O.S.S., (precursor to the C.I.A.) have been running the American Democracy Show since November 23, 1963.
So, the Fourth Reich IS (NAZI)German inspired. Ever notice all those teutonic surnames in the halls of U.S. power. Coincidence...?
Render unto Bushy what is Bushy's
Pretor