Indymedia switzerland threatened by Facists in court
sympathiser | 08.02.2002 13:53
a lawsuit has been filed against alleged "editors" of switzerland.indymedia.org, because of violation against the anti-racism law. FEPA (the group who flooded ch.indymedia.org in december) has the political
responsibility for this action. we suspect that somebody of the leftist scene
gave the names of alleged indymedia activists to the AKdH. however, people from
FEPA support the accusation, what means that they support a criminalisation of
own people.
responsibility for this action. we suspect that somebody of the leftist scene
gave the names of alleged indymedia activists to the AKdH. however, people from
FEPA support the accusation, what means that they support a criminalisation of
own people.
hello everybody
maybe you've already heard that a lawsuit has been filed against alleged
"editors" of switzerland.indymedia.org, because of violation against the
anti-racism law.
FEPA (the group who flooded ch.indymedia.org in december) has the political
responsibility for this action. we suspect that somebody of the leftist scene
gave the names of alleged indymedia activists to the AKdH. however, people from
FEPA support the accusation, what means that they support a criminalisation of
own people.
we need solidarity and ask to give everybodies opinion. we'd like to get
political statements against this action and betrayal.
here (below) is our first opinion/comment.
regards,
indymedia switzerland
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Statement by Indymedia Switzerland regarding the lawsuit against it
Since Friday 2 February we were informed through a posting to the
site
http://switzerland.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=8134
that a lawsuit has been filed against switzerland.indymedia.org.
The posting was signed by the spokesperson for AKdH (Action
Children of the Holocaust), see http://www.akdh.ch/indymedia.htm.
One day later he specified in a posting on
http://switzerland.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=8235 that
the lawsuit is targeting the moderators and editors of
switzerland.indymedia.org personally.
We have contacted the person responsible at the AKdH via
telephone in order to approach the existing problems other than
through a lawsuit. Regrettably, it was not possible to find a
satisfying solution for both sides with Mr. Althof. Instead he gave
us two names of alleged Indymedia "Editors" against whom he has
filed a lawsuit. He furthermore informed us that there will be
judicial steps against some more alleged "Editors" of
switzerland.indymedia.org, even though he declined to specify such
steps or informations.
We see juridical steps against Indymedia as a wrong way to go.
Indymedia is a leftist medium and aims to speak out against racism
in all forms. But as it is an open medium, it can't be guaranteed
that the opportunity to publish opinions and articles is not
misused. To acknowledge this we have introduced a "censored trash"
area into which we ban discriminative posts. By doing this, we
clearly distance ourselves from any content in this area. We think it
important to criticize and challenge the content of such postings
and to take a stand against their inhumane ideologies. We are
strongly objecting to a point of view which describes this is as
re-publication. The "censored trash" area is exactly what it's name
stands for: A publicly viewable wastebasket in which discriminating
contents are moved in order not to be found in the main Indymedia
site anymore.
The filing of a lawsuit is a further step against Indymedia. After
the newswire was flooded with postings in December, Indymedia is
now attacked via judicial channels. We will maintain our commitment
to a public discussion about content and aim of Indymedia in order
to do our bit for a movement against any form of oppression, be it
racism, antisemitism, sexism or other. We don't want to carry out
this discussion in court rooms.
ch.indymedia.org
maybe you've already heard that a lawsuit has been filed against alleged
"editors" of switzerland.indymedia.org, because of violation against the
anti-racism law.
FEPA (the group who flooded ch.indymedia.org in december) has the political
responsibility for this action. we suspect that somebody of the leftist scene
gave the names of alleged indymedia activists to the AKdH. however, people from
FEPA support the accusation, what means that they support a criminalisation of
own people.
we need solidarity and ask to give everybodies opinion. we'd like to get
political statements against this action and betrayal.
here (below) is our first opinion/comment.
regards,
indymedia switzerland
---------------------------
Statement by Indymedia Switzerland regarding the lawsuit against it
Since Friday 2 February we were informed through a posting to the
site
http://switzerland.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=8134 that a lawsuit has been filed against switzerland.indymedia.org.
The posting was signed by the spokesperson for AKdH (Action
Children of the Holocaust), see
http://www.akdh.ch/indymedia.htm. One day later he specified in a posting on
http://switzerland.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=8235 that the lawsuit is targeting the moderators and editors of
switzerland.indymedia.org personally.
We have contacted the person responsible at the AKdH via
telephone in order to approach the existing problems other than
through a lawsuit. Regrettably, it was not possible to find a
satisfying solution for both sides with Mr. Althof. Instead he gave
us two names of alleged Indymedia "Editors" against whom he has
filed a lawsuit. He furthermore informed us that there will be
judicial steps against some more alleged "Editors" of
switzerland.indymedia.org, even though he declined to specify such
steps or informations.
We see juridical steps against Indymedia as a wrong way to go.
Indymedia is a leftist medium and aims to speak out against racism
in all forms. But as it is an open medium, it can't be guaranteed
that the opportunity to publish opinions and articles is not
misused. To acknowledge this we have introduced a "censored trash"
area into which we ban discriminative posts. By doing this, we
clearly distance ourselves from any content in this area. We think it
important to criticize and challenge the content of such postings
and to take a stand against their inhumane ideologies. We are
strongly objecting to a point of view which describes this is as
re-publication. The "censored trash" area is exactly what it's name
stands for: A publicly viewable wastebasket in which discriminating
contents are moved in order not to be found in the main Indymedia
site anymore.
The filing of a lawsuit is a further step against Indymedia. After
the newswire was flooded with postings in December, Indymedia is
now attacked via judicial channels. We will maintain our commitment
to a public discussion about content and aim of Indymedia in order
to do our bit for a movement against any form of oppression, be it
racism, antisemitism, sexism or other. We don't want to carry out
this discussion in court rooms.
ch.indymedia.org
sympathiser
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openlaw
08.02.2002 19:44
Another experiment that's proved its worth is the OpenLaw project at the Berkman Center for Internet and Society at Harvard Law School. Berkman lawyers specialise in cyberlaw--hacking, copyright, encryption and so on--and the centre has strong ties with the EFF and the open source software community. In 1998 faculty member Lawrence Lessig, now at Stanford Law School, was asked by online publisher Eldritch Press to mount a legal challenge to US copyright law. Eldritch takes books whose copyright has expired and publishes them on the Web, but new legislation to extend copyright from 50 to 70 years after the author's death was cutting off its supply of new material. Lessig invited law students at Harvard and elsewhere to help craft legal arguments challenging the new law on an online forum, which evolved into OpenLaw.
Normal law firms write arguments the way commercial software companies write code. Lawyers discuss a case behind closed doors, and although their final product is released in court, the discussions or "source code" that produced it remain secret. In contrast, OpenLaw crafts its arguments in public and releases them under a copyleft. "We deliberately used free software as a model," says Wendy Selzer, who took over OpenLaw when Lessig moved to Stanford. Around 50 legal scholars now work on Eldritch's case, and OpenLaw has taken other cases, too.
"The gains are much the same as for software," Selzer says. "Hundreds of people scrutinise the 'code' for bugs, and make suggestions how to fix it. And people will take underdeveloped parts of the argument, work on them, then patch them in." Armed with arguments crafted in this way, OpenLaw has taken Eldritch's case--deemed unwinnable at the outset--right through the system and is now seeking a hearing in the Supreme Court.
There are drawbacks, though. The arguments are in the public domain right from the start, so OpenLaw can't spring a surprise in court. For the same reason, it can't take on cases where confidentiality is important. But where there's a strong public interest element, open sourcing has big advantages. Citizens' rights groups, for example, have taken parts of OpenLaw's legal arguments and used them elsewhere. "People use them on letters to Congress, or put them on flyers," Selzer says.
Anyway the full article is available at www.newscientist.com/hottopics/copyleft
It sounds pretty good, and it has the advantage of remaining in the public domain, accessable and transparent.
Doopa
Damn Jews
09.02.2002 21:19
Zionismsucks
IMC Switzerland shut down.
18.02.2002 04:22
2:18pm Sun Feb 17 '02
All began with publishing of a cartoon by Latuff where a jewish kid in Warsaw ghetto says "i'm a palestinian". Fascist jewish AKDH association attacked indymedia switzerland saying it is an antisemit cartoon.
Switzerland.indymedia.org is now shut off.
Full article here:
please join irc.indymedia.org to get involved in the debate.
nessuno
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Homepage:
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censorship
20.02.2002 04:11
Hasta la vietoria siempre!
Alexander.
Alex Parsonage
Apparently the truth hurts.
20.02.2002 16:49
Apparently those apologists for Israeli human rights violations are outraged that Latuff would draw a comparison between the Jewish children of the Warsaw Ghetto and Palestinian kids who live under Israeli occupation, ..a occupation propped up by US aid, and weapons. And it was precisely the effectiveness ..and the truth of Latuff's image that prompted the suit in Switzerland, and the campaign to spam IMC's all over the world. ( incidentally, much harsher images are currently available on the IMC-Israel site)
Allegations of anti-semitism against this artist is absurd, and such attacks have been routinely used by Zionist propagandists to try and stifle criticism in the past. It won't work this time.
The fact is that the Jewish resistance fighters of the Warsaw Ghetto had more in common with those Palestinians firing back at Israeli tanks than with war criminals like Ariel Sharon. And Israeli government defenders know it.
Marat