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WE ARE GOING TO WAR...

PETER CADOGAN | 02.03.2002 23:48

War with Iraq...

WE ARE GOING TO WAR

We are going to war. The Prime Minister is going to Washington in April to see the President not to discuss the possibility of war, but how to wage it.

The decision to go to war has already been taken, presidentially, in both capitals. Mr Blair has chosen not to consult Parliament, his Party, the Cabinet, the EU and to ignore the media and public opinion. The country has yet to wake up to what has happened.

Currently we are the receiving end of a softening up process that began, appropriately, with a First Leader in THE TIMES of February 15th.

It opened:
With a combination of military and covert methods now actively under discussion, the United States is preparing to destroy the regime of Saddam Hussein.

It concluded:
The US will go it alone if necessary. Mr Blair must be ready, in Europe, to go it alone too. He has been too slow in preparing British public opinion for the inevitable. He had better start closing the gap now.

Nothing could be more unlike style and substance of the Editor, Peter Stothard. Six days later he called a meeting of THE TIMES staff - and resigned. The report in the paper the next day, 22nd February, indicated that his successor was likely to be Robert Thomson, an Australian currently working for the FT in the US. He has since been appointed. The hand of the owner of THE TIMES, the Australian-American Mr Murdoch, is clearly writ large over the whole affair? Normally he does not interfere, but this time...?

Mr Berlusconi of Italy is the only other EU leader to climb aboard HMS Blair-Bush, unless we include the hapless Shadow Foreign Secretary who, on TV, has pledged his support for Mr Blair.

The war is scheduled to take place between May and October, to involve up to 200,000 US troops and Special Forces, with nuclear weapons in the front line - and to last six weeks. Clearly the battle of Masir-i-Sharif, that changed the nature of modern war, with US Space Command up-front (using its satellite-targetting system with B52s) is the new model. Iraqi casualties stand to be enormous, murder on a mass scale.

For what? But to satisfy absurd imperial delusions in the military-industrial complex of the US and an unthinking jingoism unparalleled in the history of the world? Happily there is another America currently finding its voice.

THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE UN-STOPPABLE

Theoretically there is another way... Saddam Hussein could accept the demand for the return of Inspectors that will be the substance of the US ultimatum in May. The US would then be massively undone! Doubtless they would then find some other excuse with which to proceed to war. But Hussein has already poured scorn on acceptance.
Then, under heavy international pressure, the US might have a change of heart? But the evidence is much to the contrary. The American people are under a massive propaganda barrage over the virtue of going it alone. The way in which the horror of September 11th is being squeezed for military-political purposes is a monumental disgrace.

The all-powerful single superpower myth has grabbed Middle America, Vietnam dismissed. After a series of successful wars - the Gulf, Bosnia, Kosovo and Afghanistan - nothing is beyond the might of the USA. Millions believe it.

We need to speculate intelligently (and to update that speculation daily) in order to prepare ourselves, as best we may, for what is to come.

There will be unimaginable chaos in the Middle East and throughout the vast Muslim world. Will specialists give us what clues they can? Present signs are that since Russia has been bought by the US , the IMF in particular, Putin will stay in the sidelines, but we shall see. China will be up in arms, but hardly more than metaphorically? With 20 million unemployed to contend with, China has plenty on its plate.

Given growing internal resistance in the US and worldwide objections, the other main part of the crunch is liable to be in this country and the EU.

The EU is already split. As of today it is Britain and Italy against the other thirteen? What we face is not another protest movement as since 1956 and Suez. (resolved by US action against Anglo-French would-be imperial renaissance!). A whole tranche of PMs, Presidents and Ministers will be up-in- arms with massive backing from their media, NGOs and public opinion.

Europe will be obliged to redefine itself, a silver lining to a very dark cloud.

And Britain? And Blair? Will he be able to retain public confidence? And the confidence of his own Party and of the Commons and Lords? This has happened twice before. Chamberlain went in 1940 and Eden went in 1956. (Mrs Thatcher went in 1990, but not over defence matters.) All three were rejected by their own parties. The precedents are unmistakeable.

If Mr Blair adheres to his present course, he will have to go.

PETER CADOGAN

2nd February 2002


PETER CADOGAN

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Blair will have to go

03.03.2002 00:03

Blair is an unspeakable monstrosity and the Labour Party is morally bankrupt. The only recourse for politicians and members with any scruples is to get out of it and let it lie mouldering with its nightmarish funders. Blair is on a roll to nothing unless the people withdraw support. They wont do that unless the Bush-Blair- Berlusconi agenda and all its lies and corruption are spelt out - like in simple terms - who was responsible for 9-11? - always the point from which they can do the most reprehensible things - in the hope of no criticism

dh


if any doubt exist, add this

03.03.2002 00:08

dh


fuck it..

03.03.2002 02:01

fuck it, we've shafted iraq so badly already we might as well put them out of their misery

disillusioned + demoralised


criminal negligence, 9-11 and the oil wars

03.03.2002 03:33

 http://ontario.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=7220&group=webcast

This will answer questions on the war and how to stop it at the source -- the CIA and the Bush administration. How is it an illegal war is being extended by the son of a declared international war criminal (the Bush who started the Gulf War). Please get your 9-11 activist kit. Fight fascism.

e. goldperson


Blair and Bilderberger

03.03.2002 06:34

There is a decent book on the market by robin ramsey called
"the prawn cocktail party" it is a look at new labours relationship with the corporates and the Americans and goes on to say that Blair and his key project personnel are all linked to the united states and have spent their early political careers there with a connection to the bilderberger group, also looks at overseas investments that are mutually beneficial to some senior capitalists both here and in the states it also goes on to say that the real divisions in europe are simply that one half of the speculators money is tied to european enterprise the other to british american,hence the indecision on behalf of britain on the euro issue, needless to say that any british prime minister in the americans pocket is bad news for Britain
Get him out
the smarmy self righteous sanctimonious prick that he his

Nuggett
mail e-mail: colinc125@hotmail.com


I'm with D+D

03.03.2002 07:38

fuck it, indeed.
Humanity is fucked, I kid you not. I give civilisation 20 more years until it is starved and drowned into nothingness. Optimists can hope for over 35

adsf


Mayan calendar clue?

03.03.2002 12:00

The Maya of south America did not possess the wheel but they did possess an amazing calendar system which stops at 2012.
They also disappeared quite suddenly - perhaps due to having exhausted their environment.
They erected enormous phalli.
Anyone notice any similarities to our own phallus-worshipping society?

devana


Peter, you've changed your warmongering ways.

03.03.2002 17:13

I know that Peter Cadogan was a very vocal supporter of the war against Afghanistan. He supported the US under the cover that the Northern Alliance represented the people of Afghanistan. I suspect he still supports the US, using their thermobaric bombs yesterday in Afghanistan.

It is interesting though, shows how it will be less easy for people to support a war against Iraq (or rather a scaling up of the existing war). Loads of liberals supported the war against Afghanistan, for whatever convoluted reasons, Peter. Despite this we had a powerful anti-war movement, marches of 50,000 and 100,000. Don't get demoralised, we have to stop them.

vincent


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