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Underground bases for alternate US government

dh | 03.03.2002 00:41

With the news that Dick Cheney is hiding underground with 100 Uglies to take control of things should the US be bombed to bits by wild terrorist nasties, it would be well to reflect on the old infotmation about these underground sites.

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03.03.2002 00:48

this'll give you a hard time - maybe

dh


and the old info on the terrorist attacks

03.03.2002 03:37

from  http://ontario.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=7220&group=webcast

I realize this information will be upsetting. But, it must be looked at.

WHY DID MAINSTREAM MEDIA "VOW TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE INSIDER TRADING
THAT PROFITED OFF THE 9-11 HORROR," AND THEN SUDDENLY . . . DROPPED THE
STORY?

The DISTURBING FACTS:

- The Bush Administration forced the FBI to back off of the Bin Laden
investigation months before 9-11. [BBC transcript BUSH – BIN LADEN HIDDEN
AGENDA!!!]
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/events/newsnight/newsid_1645000/1645527.stm

“I Don’t Buy It” “ I was one of the first tenants in the World Trade
Center (WTC) back in 1979. Back then----over 20 years ago----it was known
to all the tenants of the WTC that the WTC was a “no fly” zone. If you came
within 12 miles of the WTC, flying outside of a pattern where you were
supposed to be, you were warned to back off. If you came within five miles,
they would threaten to shoot you down. If you came within three miles, they
could shoot you down. . . . “I had a friend who was flying a small plane
who got warned away and they almost blew him out of the sky 20 years ago
because he was showing somebody a close view of the towers. “I can see
the first tower getting hit by surprise, but 15 minutes later the second
tower also gets hit? I don’t buy it.”
Walter Burien, Radio Free America, Nov 11, 2001 [See FAA and DOD standard
procedures for off course flight intercepts and shoot downs (all violated on
9-11)].

- The CIA station chief in Dubai met with Bin Laden 7 weeks before
9-11, and at a time when Bin Laden was supposedly "wanted" by the CIA.
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,584444,00.html·
(German Trans.)  http://www.orf.at/orfon/011031-44569/index.html
(US Wash Times Artcl: www.washtimes.com Report: bin Laden treated at US
hospital
Elizabeth Bryant UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL Published 10/31/2001

An interview with Michael Springman exposes the CIA's links
with the terrorist attacks on September 11
Straight Goods reader Ken MacAllister of Vancouver, BC writes:
Michael Springmann worked for the US government for 20 years with the
foreign service and consulate. He just went public with the story of his
involvement in a large scale CIA operation that brought hundreds of people
from the middle east to the US, issued them passports and trained them to be
terrorists. Springmann says that the CIA is working closely with Bin Laden
and his operatives in Jeddah and has been since 1987. The most haunting
implication from this interview is that all of the terrorist acts of late
were planned and paid for by the CIA with US taxpayers money so that the US
could legitimately bomb the hell out of Afghanistan
The interview is riveting, and I urge you to give it a listen.
Hear the CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) interview here.
 http://www.straightgoods.ca/ViewNote.cfm?REF=1267


WHY WERE FAA & DOD “INTERCEPT” PROCEDURES NOT FOLLOWED
ON 9-11?
>It is a FACT that DOZENS of Air Force and Air National Guard bases
are located within TEN to THIRTY minutes intercept time of BOTH 9.11
target locations.
>
>It is a FACT that most of these installations have at the ready
fighter jets such as F-16s to be scrambled on a MOMENT's NOTICE, for
>intercepting troubled or problem aircraft.
>
>It is a FACT that air defense units DID receive alerts from Air
Traffic Controllers and non-corrupt FAA officials on a number of
aircraft across the East Coast which had broken communications and
deviated radically from established flight paths on the morning of
September 11.
>
There are now 12 Congressional Committees planning to investigate 9-11, and
how it was allowed to occur. Bush & Cheney have taken the unprecedented
step of urging the Senate to "limit" inquiries into 9-11. Read the below
reports and you may understand "why" Bush and Cheney don't want this in the
light of day.


What do we know of 9-11 that should be investigated?

Pre 9-11 Intelligence Breakdowns:
- Reportedly the Bush Administration forced the FBI to "back off" on their
investigations of terrorism in the Middle East. FBI Deputy Director O'Neill
(killed in WTC on 9-11) reportedly resigned not long before 9-11 over this
investigative obstruction, claiming that the main obstruction was the
interests of American Oil Companies. (Source: Recently released French Book,
"Bin Laden,
La Verite Interdite" (Bin Laden, the Forbidden Truth)

- US Oil interests were well represented within the negotiating team, that
apparently was the source of the threat to "bury Afghanistan in a carpet of
bombs" unless they played ball in creating a major oil pipeline through
Afghanistan. This threat was reportedly made several months before 9-11.
(Bush's family has a strong oil background. So do some of his top aides.
- ENRON DID THE FEASABILITY STUDY FOR THIS MULTIBILLION DOLLAR PROJECT

-U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney was until the end of last
year president of Halliburton, a company that provides services for the oil
industry;

-National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice was between 1991 and 2000 manager
for Chevron;

-Ministers of Commerce and Energy, Donald Evans and Stanley
Abraham worked for Tom Brown, another oil giant.
[ BBC interview on the above issue: - The Bush Administration forced the FBI
to back off of the Bin Laden investigation months before 9-11. Source: BBC
transcript BUSH ? BIN LADEN HIDDEN AGENDA!
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/events/newsnight/newsid_1645000/16455
27.stm]

- CIA Station Chief in Dubai met with Bin Laden only 7 weeks before 9-11
took place, yet they did not try to apprehend him, only met with him. - The
CIA station chief in Dubai met with Bin Laden 7 weeks before 9-11, and at a
time when Bin Laden was supposedly "wanted" by the CIA.
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,584444,00.html·
(English)
(German Trans.)  http://www.orf.at/orfon/011031-44569/index.html

- US government agent claims the CIA has been dealing with Bin Laden since
1987, and he suggests in his interview that the terrorist acts of late may
well have been planned and paid for by the CIA with US taxpayers money to
enable the Bush Administration to "legitimately" bomb Afghanistan into
submission.

An interview with Michael Springman exposes the CIA's links
with the terrorist attacks on September 11 [Michael Springman worked for the
US government for 20 years with the foreign service and consulate. He just
went public with the story of his involvement in a large scale CIA operation
that brought hundreds of people from
the middle east to the US, issued them passports and trained them to be
terrorists. Hear the CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) interview here.
 http://www.straightgoods.ca/ViewNote.cfm?REF=1267]

-Insider Trading profits off the 9-11 terror don't lead to
Osama Bin Laden, but to AB Brown Trust, until recently chaired by the 3rd
highest man in the CIA.

-[Someone with considerable financial resources, and
foreknowledge of the terrorist event, put stock options "against" the
airlines that were to explode that week of 9-11.
- INSIDER TRADING PROFITS from 9-11 were reported by the US media when they
thought it was Arab terrorists . . . but then the story mysteriously died.
Then the UK Independent revealed that it leads to a firm chaired by the 3rd
highest man in the CIA (and stranger still is that $2.5 million of the
"winnings" are still unclaimed (see below for URL to entire story).
 http://globalresearch.ca/articles/RUP110A.html .
Info confirmed by Independent Newspaper in UK:
 http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=99402]

[Standard FAA and DOD "intercept and shoot down procedures" were violated on
9-11 (see FAA and DOD procedures on "intercepts").]
Ø It is a FACT that standard intercept procedures for dealing with
these kinds of situations ARE TOTALLY ESTABLISHED, IN FORCE and ON-
LINE in these United States 365 days a year, 7 days a week, 24 hours
a day.
Ø
Ø Regarding rules governing IFR requirements, see FAA Order 7400.2E
>'Procedures for Handling Airspace Matters,' Effective Date:
December 7, 2000 (Includes Change 1, effective July 7, 2001), Chapter
14-1-2.
>Full text posted at:
> http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/AIR/air1401.html#14-1-2FAA
>
Ø Guide to Basic Flight Information and Air Traffic Control (ATC)
>Procedures,' (Includes Change 3 Effective: July 12, 2001) Chapter 5-6-4
>"Interception Signals" Full text posted at:
> http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/AIM/Chap5/aim0506.html#5-6-4

Ø FAA Order 7110.65M 'Air Traffic Control' (Includes Change 3
Effective: July 12, 2001), Chapter 10-2-5 "Emergency Situations"
>Full text posted at:
> http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/ATC/Chp10/atc1002.html#10-2-5

Ø FAA Order 7110.65M 'Air Traffic Control' (Includes Change 3
Effective: July 12, 2001), Chapter 10-1-1 "Emergency Determinations"
>Full text posted at:
> http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/ATC/Chp10/atc1001.html#10-1-1

Ø FAA Order 7610.4J 'Special Military Operations' (Effective Date:
>November 3, 1998; Includes: Change 1, effective July 3, 2000;
Change 2, effective July 12, 2001), Chapter 4, Section 5, "Air Defense
Liaison
>Officers (ADLO's)"
>Full text posted at:
> http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/MIL/Ch4/mil0405.html#Section%205

Ø FAA Order 7610.4J 'Special Military Operations' (Effective Date:
>November 3, 1998; Includes: Change 1, effective July 3, 2000;
Change 2, effective July 12, 2001), Chapter 7, Section 1-2, "Escort of
Hijacked Aircraft: Requests for Service"
>Full text posted at:
> http://faa.gov/ATpubs/MIL/Ch7/mil0701.html#7-1-2

Ø Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Instruction 3610.01A,' 1
June 2001, "Aircraft Piracy (Hijacking) and Destruction of Derelict
Airborne Objects," 4. Policy (page 1)
>PDF available at:
> http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/cjcsd/cjcsi/3610_01a.pdf
>Backup at:
> http://emperors-clothes.com/9-11backups/3610_01a.pdf
>
For a clear and detailed description of flight plans, fixes, and
Air Traffic Control, see: 'Direct-To Requirements' by Gregory Dennis and
>Emina Torlak at:  http://sdg.lcs.mit.edu/atc/D2Requirements.htm
>
Absolutely NO executive-level input of ANY KIND is required for
standard intercepts to be scrambled.


WHY DID BUSH’S STAFF NOT FOLLOW NORMAL PROCEDURES IN THE CASE OF A NATIONAL
EMERGENCY ON 9-11? DID HE KNOW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN?

The UK Independent Newspaper has questioned how Bush, who claimed in two
public appearances to have seen the first plane hit the first tower on
television the morning of 9-11, before the 2nd tower got hit? The
significance of this is that no one in the world saw that first tower get
hit, at that time, on television. They also question why Bush continued to
sit with elementary school students after the 2nd tower was hit and he was
informed, "America is under attack." Standard procedure for such a situation
is to whisk the President away, if not for his safety, for the safety of the
students. Unless he knew something more than we did that morning. The
Independent asks, "what television station was HE watching?"


Is it Outrageous to Consider that Elements of a Nations' Government Could
Committ Terror on It's Own People for Political Reasons?

- ABC News.com's May/2001 story resurfaces about how the US Joint Chiefs of
Staff have in the past ACTUALLY DESIGNED a plan to committ domestic terror
on Americans to whip them into a war hysteria, to support war efforts by the
govt.  http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/jointchiefs_010501.html

[The National Security Archive has a PDF version of the Operation Northwoods
plan, which author James Bamford says "may be the most corrupt plan ever
created by the U.S. government." It can be found at the following URL:]
 http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/

After 9-11 Oddities:

Anthrax sent to top Democrat Daschle and to the U.S. media (NBC & The
National Inquirer) had the effect of "uniting the nation behind the Bush
Administration's war effort," and literally shutting down Congress in many
ways.

Oddities exist when the anthrax issue is looked at closely:
- New Science Journal says Anthrax sent to Daschle is NOT Russian or Iraqi,
but likely US military strain.

- San Francisco Chronicle reports, the anthrax strain produced in US
University is destroyed on ok of FBI (they had studied this for years, some
at university question the timing of the destruction of those anthrax spores
. . . right now of all times (?))






 http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?
f=/chronicle/archive/2001/11/09/MN153227.DTL

Terror Anthrax Linked to Type Made by U.S.
The powder used in the anthrax attacks is virtually
indistinguishable from that produced by the United States
military, according to federal scientists.
 http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/03/national/03POWD.html?todaysheadlines


After 9-11 Administration Damage Control Efforts:

Fire Engineering Magazine assails the incredible speed that the evidence in
the WTC collapse is being destroyed. Never in the history of fire
investigations has evidence been destroyed this fast before exhaustive
investigations can be completed. ["We must try to find out why the twin
towers fell" By James Quintiere,Baltimore Sun 1/3/01
 http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-
op.towers03jan03.story
-WTC "INVESTIGATION"?: A CALL TO ACTION from Fire Engineering Magazine]
-
- Bush Admin. declares they will "seal the records of presidents beginning
with Father Bush/Reagans (an act never before done in US presidential
history)."

- "It is not a stretch to wonder if this White House is up to something that
it doesn't want known 12 years from now or anytimethereafter. [A direct
quote from the piece carried by Scripps Howard News Service, 11/5/2001. Re:
Bush's sealing of presidential records for the first time in U.S. history]


- Bush & Cheney urge Senate Leader to "limit" inquiries into 9-11: Senate
perplexed by this. Don't go there: Bush Asks Daschle to Limit Sept. 11
Probes Date: Wednesday, January 30 @ 10:09:24 EST
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush personally asked Senate Majority Leader
Tom Daschle Tuesday to limit the congressional investigation into the events
of September 11, congressional and White House sources told CNN.

The request was made at a private meeting with congressional leaders Tuesday
morning. Sources said Bush initiated the conversation. He asked that only
the House and Senate intelligence committees look into the potential
breakdowns among federal agencies that could have allowed the terrorist
attacks to occur, rather than a broader inquiry that some lawmakers have
proposed, the sources said.

Tuesday's discussion followed a rare call to Daschle from Vice President
Dick Cheney last Friday to make the same request.

"The vice president expressed the concern that a review of what happened on
September 11 would take resources and personnel away from the effort in the
war on terrorism," Daschle told reporters.

But, Daschle said, he has not agreed to limit the investigation. "I
acknowledged that concern, and it is for that reason that the Intelligence
Committee is going to begin this effort, trying to limit the scope and the
overall review of what happened," said Daschle, D-South Dakota. "But
clearly, I think the American people are entitled to know what happened and
why," he said.

Foreign Officials have powerful concerns over 9-11:

FORMER GERMAN CABINET MINISTER ATTACKS OFFICIAL BRAINWASHING ON SEPTEMBER 11
ISSUE
[Source: Tagesspiegel, Berlin, Jan. 13] PARTIAL TRANSLATION

In a full-page interview with the Sunday edition (Jan. 13) of the Berlin
Tagesspiegel daily, former German Minister of Technology, Andreas von
Buelow, said he does not buy any of the official theories that have been
presented to date, on the events of September 11.

Q: You seem so angry, really upset.

Von Buelow: I can explain what's bothering me: I see that after the
horrifying attacks of Sept. 11, all political public opinion is being forced
into a direction that I consider wrong.

Q: What do you mean by that?

Von Buelow: I wonder why many questions are not asked. Normally, with such a
terrible thing, various leads and tracks appear that are then commented on,
by the investigators, the media, the government: Is there something here or
not? Are the explanations plausible? This time, this is not the case at all.
It already began just hours after the attacks in New York and Washington
and--

Q: In those hours, there was horror, and grief.

Von Buelow: Right, but actually it was astounding: There are 26 intelligence
services in the U.S.A. with a budget of $30 billion--

Q: ...more than the German defense budget...

Von Buelow: --which were not able to prevent the attacks. In fact, they
didn't even have an inkling they would happen. For 60 decisive minutes, the
military and intelligence agencies let the fighter planes stay on the
ground, 48 hours later, however, the FBI presented a list of suicide
attackers. Within ten days, it emerged that seven of them were still alive.

Q: What, please?

Von Buelow: Yes, yes. And why did the FBI chief take no position regarding
contradictions? Where the list came from, why it was false? If I were the
chief investigator (state attorney) in such a case, I would regularly go to
the public, and give information on which lead are valid and which not.

Q: That sounds like--

Von Buelow: --like assailants who, in their preparations, leave tracks
behind them like a herd of stampeding elephants? They made payments with
credit cards with their own names; they reported to their flight instructors
with their own names. They left behind rented cars with flight manuals in
Arabic for jumbo
jets. They took with them, on their suicide trip, wills and farewell
letters, which fall into the hands of the FBI, because they were stored in
the wrong place and wrongly addressed. Clues were left like behind like in a
child's game of hide-and-seek, which were to be followed!

There is also the theory of one British flight engineer: According to this,
the steering of the planes was perhaps taken out of the pilots' hands, from
outside. The Americans had developed a method in the 1970s, whereby they
could rescue hijacked planes by intervening into the computer piloting
[automatic pilot system]. This theory says, this technique was abused in
this case. That's a theory....

Q: Which sounds really adventurous, and was never considered.

Von Buelow: You see! I do not accept this theory, but I find it worth
considering. And what about the obscure stock transactions? In the week
prior to the attacks, the amount of transactions in stocks in American
Airlines, United Airlines, and insurance companies, increased 1,200%. It was
for a value of $15 billion. Some people must have known something. Who?

Q: Why don't you speculate on who it might have been.

Von Buelow: With the help of the horrifying attacks, the Western mass
democracies were subjected to brainwashing. The enemy image of
anti-communism doesn't work any more; it is to be replaced by peoples of
Islamic belief. They are accused of having given birth to suicidal
terrorism.

Q: Brainwashing? That's a tough term.

Von Buelow: Yes? But the idea of the enemy image doesn't come from me. It
comes from Zbigniew Brzezinski and Samuel Huntington, two policy-makers of
American intelligence and foreign policy. Already in the middle of the
1990s, Huntingon believed, people in Europe and the U.S. needed someone they
could hate-- this would strengthen their
identification with their own society. And Brzezinski, the mad dog, as
adviser to President Jimmy Carter, campaigned for the exclusive right of the
U.S. to seize all the raw materials of the world, especially oil and gas.

Q: You mean, the events of Sept. 11--

Von Buelow: --fit perfectly in the concept of the armaments industry, the
intelligence agencies, the whole military-industrial-academic complex. This
is in fact conspicuous. The huge raw materials reserves of the former Soviet
Union are now at their disposal, also the pipeline routes and--

Q: Erich Follach described that at length in Spiegel: ``It's a matter of
military bases, drugs, oil and gas reserves.''

Von Buelow: I can state: the planning of the attacks was technically and
organizationally a master achievement. To hijack four huge airplanes within
a few minutes and within one hour, to drive them into their targets, with
complicated flight maneuvers! This is unthinkable, without years-long
support from secret apparatuses of the state and industry.

Q: You are a conspiracy theorist!

Von Buelow: Yeah, yeah. That's the ridicule heaped [on those raising these
questions] by those who would prefer to follow the official, politically
correct line. Even investigative journalists are fed propaganda and
disinformation. Anyone who doubts that, doesn't have all his marbles! That
is your accusation.

Q: Your career actually speaks against the idea that you are not in your
right mind. You were already in the 1970s, state secretary in the Defense
Ministry; in 1993 you were the SPD [Social Democratic Party] speaker in the
Schalk-Golodkowski investigation committee--

Von Buelow: And it all began there! Until that time, I did not have any
great knowledge of the work of intelligence agencies. And now we had to take
note of a great discrepancy: We shed light on the dealings of the Stasi and
other East bloc intelligence agencies in the field of economic criminality,
but as soon as we wanted to know something about the activities of the BND
[German intelligence
agency] or the CIA, it was mercilessly blocked. No information, no
cooperation, nothing! That's when I was first taken aback.


The Legacy:
"On the surface, selling arms to a country that sponsors terrorism, of
course, clearly, you'd have to argue it's wrong, but it's the exception
sometimes that proves the rule."

- George Bush on Good Morning America. 01/28/87


"You f**king son of a bitch, I saw what you wrote. We're not going to forget
this.",

- George W. Bush shouted at writer & editor Al Hunt,
& his 6 yr old son in a restaurant - 1988 ....

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