what is postmodernism?
christopher spence | 21.03.2002 15:21
christopher spence
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Yes, thats the problem
21.03.2002 17:16
A Triffid
Yes, thats the problem
21.03.2002 17:16
A Triffid
it sucks, read this
21.03.2002 18:14
although the sociological side of it and the actual term 'post-modernism' really kicked off in the 70's/80's it has its roots in post-war cultural and artistic movements and the confusion of ideologies and cultures at this time.
the basic premise is that becuase there is such a plurality in society that it would be wrong to chose one over the other and every theory/opinion is as valid as another. thats why its such a vague term becuase it can cover any discipline that involves the formulating of ideas.
hardcore post-modernists would say we can't trust science, religion, maths, philosophy, or other subjects that make universal assumptions.
my personal opinion is that it was created by people who couldn't cope with ideological struggle so dedcided to turn there back on it.
anyway, it is all crap becuase it has like the hugest logical floor! its basic axiom, its foundation is that there can be no overreaching, all encopmassing theories. so how the hell does post-modernism justify itself! surely IT IS an all encompassing theory! it disapears in a puff of its own logic. how do post-modernist sociologists (unfortunatley i know a few) justify there well paid university posts!?
euan
e-mail: euanholloway@hotmail.com
Now it gets interesting...
21.03.2002 18:32
I personally am quite interested in the FUTURISTS. At least they had some cofidence about things...
a Triffid
postmodernism
21.03.2002 23:00
One of the fundamentals, is that there is no single reality, that is to say, that we all have / make our own different versions of reality... this is where the idea that "anything goes" comes from. Think about it, whatever point of view anyone has, there is always another...
Some of the most interesting pm stuff is in the area of linguistics and semiotics. Lanuage defines our realities, what we say, describe, etc, yet lanuage is NOT reality, it can never adequately describe what we see or feel...
Lyotard talks of lanuage games, where all dialogues confirm to sets of rules or formats... like writing an essay for a uni course... you have to follow certain criteria, a format.
Arrrgggghhh, not enough time now, feel free to email me if you want specific info or to get into specifics....
ps
Language is such, that any statement of fact can be refuted!
steve bubble
e-mail: steve_bubble@hotmail.com
Postmodernism is not the be all and end all
22.03.2002 07:43
catabolic_kid
My thoughts...
22.03.2002 15:16
No single reality? Why not, just because everyone has a different interpretation of it varying depending on culture/experiences/ideology etc. doesn't mean that the reality being interpreted changes.
All post-modernism is, is a bunch of pretentious sods tying themselves into intellectual knots. The fact that it discredits ideologies which challenge the system is just a happy coincidence for the capitalists/warmongers/fascists.
Disillusioned kid