WE'LL ORGANIZE AND.........???????
POLEMIC | 04.05.2002 17:34
Well 6000 celebrated mayday in London. About the average weekly attendance of a 3rd division football team. Don’t get me wrong I’m taking nothing whatsoever away from all those that attended and well done to the organisers. It’s good to have a day or two to celebrate and rejoice together. But this is where my concern is, not so much the very small number that attended (though well up on the hundreds in the 80’s who took part in the stop the city demos). My concern is that this is not so much a movement but a stagnant pool. We do not seem to be progressing, a lot of us bicker amongst ourselves,
GR/SWP/VARIOUS BLOCS/ETC/ETC. Meanwhile the far right are gaining in momentum, the royals are attracting 1000’s on their PR whistle stop tour winning back support for the monarch in her jubilee year and probably removing what little chance we had of achieving a republic. Towards the end of the 70’s and thru the 80’s we smashed the then national front who had a lot of followers in working class areas including mine. We took the fight right up to them inside and outside the football grounds where they recruited and had taken route, we drove them out. The original NF was finished. They formed the BNP and attempted to put a respectable face to their policies. Nazis in suits and smiles and who’s laughing now? 84/85 saw my community under attack, in what was nothing less than a class war aka the miners strike, 1000’s were involved in bloody confrontations with Thatchers boot boys from the London met and the spg (special patrol groups = violent thugs who were eventually disbanded)).
Also at the same time was the anarcho punk scene/animal rights/CND and eventually of course the poll tax. Literally thousands of us (yet still a minority) were in conflict with authority, fines/prisons and mental homes were handed out regularly yet still we would not give up. Now I fear it’s too late, I honestly feel we have lost it all. For over 2 decades (own involvement (I know its probably a wee bit longer on the whole!)) the working class fought against the private take over of the UK, a lot lost a lot/some are still rotting in prisons/some give their lives. Now there is no real working class, I myself am employed in the service industry making millions for fat cats and share holders in a industry which was once a public utility. The majority of people are selfish, perhaps that is just human nature? Perhaps there is nothing we can do.
On a lighter note I read that the media and the police themselves are praising the policing of the mayday festival for preventing trouble and quelling crowd disturbances…….Really as if the fluffy protesters were out for trouble. One question tho if the police tactics are so good and the protesters were so hell bent on trouble…what went wrong at Millwall officer????
NO ONE LIKES US WE DON’T CARE……
GR/SWP/VARIOUS BLOCS/ETC/ETC. Meanwhile the far right are gaining in momentum, the royals are attracting 1000’s on their PR whistle stop tour winning back support for the monarch in her jubilee year and probably removing what little chance we had of achieving a republic. Towards the end of the 70’s and thru the 80’s we smashed the then national front who had a lot of followers in working class areas including mine. We took the fight right up to them inside and outside the football grounds where they recruited and had taken route, we drove them out. The original NF was finished. They formed the BNP and attempted to put a respectable face to their policies. Nazis in suits and smiles and who’s laughing now? 84/85 saw my community under attack, in what was nothing less than a class war aka the miners strike, 1000’s were involved in bloody confrontations with Thatchers boot boys from the London met and the spg (special patrol groups = violent thugs who were eventually disbanded)).
Also at the same time was the anarcho punk scene/animal rights/CND and eventually of course the poll tax. Literally thousands of us (yet still a minority) were in conflict with authority, fines/prisons and mental homes were handed out regularly yet still we would not give up. Now I fear it’s too late, I honestly feel we have lost it all. For over 2 decades (own involvement (I know its probably a wee bit longer on the whole!)) the working class fought against the private take over of the UK, a lot lost a lot/some are still rotting in prisons/some give their lives. Now there is no real working class, I myself am employed in the service industry making millions for fat cats and share holders in a industry which was once a public utility. The majority of people are selfish, perhaps that is just human nature? Perhaps there is nothing we can do.
On a lighter note I read that the media and the police themselves are praising the policing of the mayday festival for preventing trouble and quelling crowd disturbances…….Really as if the fluffy protesters were out for trouble. One question tho if the police tactics are so good and the protesters were so hell bent on trouble…what went wrong at Millwall officer????
NO ONE LIKES US WE DON’T CARE……
POLEMIC
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i feel ya bro
04.05.2002 18:59
Peace.
ak-undaground
More things, Horatio
04.05.2002 21:25
dh
an afterthought
04.05.2002 22:06
dh
'escape' the power
05.05.2002 01:57
'better to die for something, than live for nothing'
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Dh - you're full of shit !
05.05.2002 03:55
when the Sex Workers Pride Collective posted publicity for our action in Soho on Mayday www.sexworkerspride.org.uk/
- you denounced our group as a fascist provocation... you are just so outta touch.. ....so why should we believe the any of the trash you post , eh...?
All you seem to do is clog the newswire with more and more of your conspiracy shit... . but for all your postings, I have yet to see you do an article that relates to real direct action or even anything to do with the real world
I sorry, but from you're postings- I just imagine you are some sad geek sad at computer somewhere- who is too shit scared to leave his computer and come out to play on the streets - where real people are really challenging the Powers
No more passivity
Unleash your creativity
DIY
LOVE AND RAGE
Da rhythmites
Homepage:
rhythmsofresistance.co.uk
Dh - you're full of shit !
05.05.2002 04:31
when the Sex Workers Pride Collective posted publicity for our action in Soho on Mayday www.sexworkerspride.org.uk/
- you denounced our group as a fascist provocation... you are just so outta touch.. ....so why should we believe the any of the trash you post , eh...?
All you seem to do is clog the newswire with more and more of your conspiracy shit... . but for all your postings, I have yet to see you do an article that relates to real direct action or even anything to do with the real world
I sorry, but from you're postings- I just imagine you are some sad geek sad at computer somewhere- who is too shit scared to leave his computer and come out to play on the streets - where real people are really challenging the Powers
No more passivity
Unleash your creativity
DIY
LOVE AND RAGE
Da rhythmites
Homepage:
rhythmsofresistance.co.uk
Dh - you're full of shit !
05.05.2002 04:34
when the Sex Workers Pride Collective posted publicity for our action in Soho on Mayday www.sexworkerspride.org.uk/
- you denounced our group as a fascist provocation... you are just so outta touch.. ....so why should we believe the any of the trash you post , eh...?
All you seem to do is clog the newswire with more and more of your conspiracy shit... . but for all your postings, I have yet to see you do an article that relates to real direct action or even anything to do with the real world
I sorry, but from you're postings- I just imagine you are some sad geek sad at computer somewhere- who is too shit scared to leave his computer and come out to play on the streets - where real people are really challenging the Powers
No more passivity
Unleash your creativity
DIY
LOVE AND RAGE
Da rhythmites
Homepage:
rhythmsofresistance.co.uk
THE CHANGE IS IN YOU
05.05.2002 07:37
I hold no respect for those in authority though I also hate the true criminal scum who prey on the vulnerable be it robbing from houses or armed robbery, their motive is to capitalise on others losses. (In the case of armed robbery it’s the poor sod who had the gun or what ever shoved in their face that makes it despicable not the loss to the bank or what ever.)
That said I do believe in moral law and I also respect the wishes of others and if 95% of protest do not wish to be involved in confrontational tactics surely this should be respected.
Also other than to let out the understandable anger, this sort of action is I’m afraid fruitless, It alienates more people, it doesn’t effect the cogs of capitalism, it only lets them see how angry we are. To talk of sacrificing ourselves, as if a street battle is some major final conflict is to be blunt pathetic… do u really think we will overthrow the system with rocks and fire crackers????? I’m afraid it only provides them with the excuse to clamp down on us and to justify their actions by portraying the protesters as violent yobs. (Public order section 5/criminal justice act/terrorism bill)
So what way then, become an MP change the system from within??? Putting aside the fact that by its very nature all government is wrong, this method is not destined to work. There is many a decent MP (well 1 Dennis skinner and 1 ex MP Tony benn) who I’m sure are/were there with the very best of intentions, however benn has said he has left parliament as he is more effective working outside of it!!
The only way forward is revolution. Yes REVELOUTION a social revolution and its happening now, we are all part of it. Protesting is only a very small piece of it. I have and do participate in protests and demonstrations. I think they are good as a show of unity and solidarity they are not a means of changing the world, they are not the battlefields. The battle field is our every day lives organising boycotts, high lighting abuses and injustice, creating alternatives to the system, simply being a spanner in the works whilst coming together. Throughout the 80’s and probably b4 protest marches and demos were exactly that, which to me was a bit like going cap In hand and asking the establishment. Nowadays its more like a carnival of resistance a huge big fuck off to the establishment and a celebration of our togetherness. It is also more damaging and more of a threat to them than smashing plate glass windows. Together not working class not middle class but people
Together we are strong divided we are defeated.
F.T.S