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dissenter | 11.05.2002 23:56

Things are getting desperate. Fascist ideology is on the rise and the protestations of socialists are feeble. The stark choice appears to be either xenophobic nationalism or neo-liberalism. We, the masses, have to show there is a third way by uniting in a loose umbrella group operating in every level.

Just a brief rant which I hope may generate some meaningful discussion and follow-up posts.

The general discussion in France, the Netherlands, Austria and Italy and Britain to a lesser extent, seems to be that fascism is on the rise against weak corrupt opposition.

The fascists are becoming attractive to more and more people, alienated from our captive corporate society and the remote decision-makers who give the green light to globalisation, as they too talk about destroying corporate power (perhaps not in Italy but certainly in Le Pen's, the BNP's and Pim Fortyn's case) and bringing power closer to the people - albeit the white master-race.

The SWP and other socialist groups are dinosaurs. Socialist rhetoric is outdated, Marx's belief in a dictatorship over the proletariat has been proved flawed. However, the policies and the democratic organisation of the Zapatistas and other indigenous Mexican groups, Chavez (though he is a bit dodgy) and the popular uprising in Argentina brings some hope.

It is time for the left to throw off the shackles of socialist ideology and think instead of a truly democratic vision, where people have a say on every issue and there is no messianic leader fixation. There are a huge number of single issue groups that operate on these lines, activists and others. An umbrella group, which has a strictly democratic structure so it can't be hi-jacked by the SWP needs to be formed.

This organisation must work as a political and educational force as well as an activist group. It must be recognisable to the mass media and people in every town and put forward candidates at elections.

Is this possible? It's the only way the left can crawl back from the abyss and become a force to be reckoned with, outside the protest/demonstration sphere, against the two types of far-right ideologies now dominating politics.

Just look at the history of how the Nazis came to power - given the key by a weak government barracked by Bolsheviks - and read about the ideas of the anarchist philosophers such as Proudhon and Godwin. So many people have a distorted view of what anarchism actually is.

I write as someone who is not a political activist and I know many who feel disenfranchised and angry at events but are prevented by taking to the streets by a number of factors, including family and work ties.


From where I'm sitting, far from the front line, I read the situation as a state of anarchy - a trasitional period where capitalist society and power structures have rotted to the core. The question is, what succeeds it? We must prevent fascists from gaining support and power by every means possible. That means acting as a concrete united force in every sector of everyday life.

Any ideas?

dissenter

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What the fuck?!

12.05.2002 01:15

I'm not really sure what ultimate goal you have in mind, because you talk about anarchism and "everday life" but then say that we are in a state of anarchy now and you want to run in elections!

On a related note (I guess) is the London Underground - a networking group to bring together various groups and new people wanting to get involved in social centres or direct action, or non-hierarchical organisations in general. Next meeting should be Sunday 2nd June, 2pm at LARC, Fieldgate St, nr Whitechapel tube. There should be a film showing, free food and info available on loads of different groups in London and elsewhere.

red'n'black


Don't know much about History, but I do know

12.05.2002 05:17

that the NAZIs came to power through an electoral strategy. Hitler was the man chosen by "representative democracy".

I also know that Chavez is VERY dodgy, being at best the sort of Leninist that you talk about. He is the epitome of strong-leader charisma.

You suggest a democratic umbrella group that can provide a non-cooptable meeting place for left-activists (good, I like the idea) and then propose that its function would be to shove up candidates for election (bad, I don't like the idea).

Electoral politics diverts activism away from making change, it funnels and channels the energy into a system that can only deliver one of two outcomes: corruption and compromising of the elected candidate, or armed repression by the elites.

That's the long road to social change and it wastes energy. Let's not bother hiking up over that mountain. Conserve the energy and spend it wisely in building campaigns against the unsafe work practices, the exploitation of casual labour, the lack of healthy urban environments. Let people see what they can do themselves.

UselessIdiot


You dont talk from the front line

12.05.2002 13:10

If solialist polotics are so backward
and there are other more progressive
politics then I ask you where are they?
You said your self that you are not on
the frount line well I am and I can tell
you that the SWP and its pollitics are
responsible for mobaliseing thousends.
In opposition to the war in the fight
against fasism and for justise for
palestine.
In a resent demo in Sheffield of 2
thousend people socialist worker
members where ingaging with people and
leading uniting chants.
The anarchists where at the end of the
march chanting to them selfs sectarian
chants that ingageded no one but the
all ready converted.
You very quick to slag off socialism
and its proad traditions but what do
you offer as an alternative?
Vage ideas with no backing in matieral
fact.
If your alternative is so good (what ever
it may be) then show us though action!
Get off your lazy moaning arse and do some
thing!!!!!!!!

JK
mail e-mail: EvilJoe@poo.co.uk


Thoughts of an ex anarcho

12.05.2002 21:57

Red n black and Useless Idiot just don't get it do they - what is happening is proof, if any more was needed, of the bankruptcy of anarchist strategy (note, strategy, not theory - there is still plenty of useful stuff for radicals there) anti electoralism simply leads to abstentionism by the radical minority, hence higher percentage votes and more power and influence to the right and far right the more effective you are at promoting abstention. In my experience, concentration on "everyday struggles" in your community etc is just as likely to lead to co-option and sell out as electoralism. The problem with anarchist strategy, as noted by the original poster is that it leaves the field open on the one hand to Marxist Leninists, who our SWP defending friend is correct about - they do impress in their organisational and mobilising capabilities - and on the other hand to the right and far right. The trick is to have a strategy which combines an electoral programme with radical grassroots organising - not to counterpose them. This was the original idea of the German Greens in their most effective period. Of course they are now a reactionary rump, but I would argue that this was due largely to lack of a proper theoretical base and defection of radical elements under the influence of anarcho and autonomist arguments like those given by the posters above. This left the party open to capture by careerists.
You must be able to connect with ordinary people - yes , like those on your street, or in the suburbs of your town. If the ideas and strategy you put forward would instantly alienate 99 percent of them then you are obviously on a loser. I'm not saying staying true to ideals and at the same time communicating with and bringing in ordinary people (outside students and the squattocracy) is easy - but this must be the approach, not some insurrectionary posturing or defeatist retreat into lifestylism. the original poster might find the ideas in the magazine/website Red Pepper interesting - and - shock horror anarchos! - the Green Party in England still has a sizeable radical faction with libertarian socialist ideas and yet still gained more votes than the rest of the non-labour left put together in the latest elections.

Will Scarlet


Thoughts of an ex anarcho

12.05.2002 21:58

Red n black and Useless Idiot just don't get it do they - what is happening is proof, if any more was needed, of the bankruptcy of anarchist strategy (note, strategy, not theory - there is still plenty of useful stuff for radicals there) anti electoralism simply leads to abstentionism by the radical minority, hence higher percentage votes and more power and influence to the right and far right the more effective you are at promoting abstention. In my experience, concentration on "everyday struggles" in your community etc is just as likely to lead to co-option and sell out as electoralism. The problem with anarchist strategy, as noted by the original poster is that it leaves the field open on the one hand to Marxist Leninists, who our SWP defending friend is correct about - they do impress in their organisational and mobilising capabilities - and on the other hand to the right and far right. The trick is to have a strategy which combines an electoral programme with radical grassroots organising - not to counterpose them. This was the original idea of the German Greens in their most effective period. Of course they are now a reactionary rump, but I would argue that this was due largely to lack of a proper theoretical base and defection of radical elements under the influence of anarcho and autonomist arguments like those given by the posters above. This left the party open to capture by careerists.
You must be able to connect with ordinary people - yes , like those on your street, or in the suburbs of your town. If the ideas and strategy you put forward would instantly alienate 99 percent of them then you are obviously on a loser. I'm not saying staying true to ideals and at the same time communicating with and bringing in ordinary people (outside students and the squattocracy) is easy - but this must be the approach, not some insurrectionary posturing or defeatist retreat into lifestylism. the original poster might find the ideas in the magazine/website Red Pepper interesting - and - shock horror anarchos! - the Green Party in England still has a sizeable radical faction with libertarian socialist ideas and yet still gained more votes than the rest of the non-labour left put together in the latest elections.

Will Scarlet


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