oi man pigwatch blows man its all police psy-ops man they go and they like trace ur IP man so like man yeah word man its gunan fuck u over man and pigwatch isnt even anti police man its a fucking pro police site man.... yeah.

[just thort i would post to save all the persons who are challeneged in the mind who usually post after i post on indymedia]

peelers have been using blastic bullets/batons for over 20 years in belfast, northern ireland, what makes the rest of the UK so different, it was bound to happen, dont you wish yous had protested then, afterall northern ireland is an experimental training ground for troops, security forces, tactics, black ops etc, you name it, they tried it first in belfast.

The type of baton round the metropolitan police is considering using in situations involving extreme violence to members of the public or police but which don't involce firearms... for example swords, blades, etc... is a modification on the sort of baton round that was used in Northern Ireland and caused criticism from human rights groups, the media, and officers themselves issued with the gun.

It fires circular plastic rounds that can knock down a person from 25 metres when they are aimed at the stomach.
It causes trauma, it is an impact weapon. But that has to be levelled against the possibility of someone being shot dead.

Tests are still being carried out on tazers - stun guns with a high-voltage charge - which are used in America and Canada but again there are issues regarding the use of these, notably the problem of people with unforseen heart defects. A cynic might argue thou that when a person chooses to start waving a weapon in public they really do take the consequences of police action into there own hands.

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1460000/images/_1460116_plastic_bullet150.jpg

THIS (ABOVE) IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE NEW BATON ROUND... Designed to cause less damage and not to penetrate the body of the person shot.

The old style round, which had a tapered end... (shaped liked above but with a conical end) which was less effective, prone to ricochet and was known to be potentially lethal, IS NOT BEING USED.


How i see it is fairly simple. If you decide to start waving weapons and threatening people in a public place, then the use of force to 'disable' you from carrying out a violent and unreasonable action is justified to protect the public good.

Clearly the use of force has to be justified and officers are not going to use these guns indiscriminantly.

How do you figure that the filth 'are not going to use these guns indiscriminately'. They don't seem to be able to discriminate between innocent and guilty civilians, and they use their real guns on them (us) all the time. Surely they will use these on just about anyone they want, without all the nasty paperwork and mock-consideration involved in a fatality.

London pigs, this year, have shot dead a 19 year old schizophrenic, a Scotsman carrying a table leg, because he sounded Irish (?) and a Rasta with a lighter, that looked like a gun. These "errors" have prompted this new policy, so now we can all be shot, with plastic bullets.

Because Mike is a fascist piece of shit from Essex university, who regularly posts his ignorant race-hate crap here. And as the police kill so many black people, Mike loves them.

anyone else had experience with police and sniffer dogs at exits on tube stations. dogs came straight for me after having some skunk in my pocket three days befor. got fully searched and told if they had found anything, they would have arrested me!!!

Yeah, lots of people have noticed the Met in busy places with dogs. A mate of mine came through with enough for a joint and got a caution for it!!
The pig said that they had put an advert in the Evening Standard the week before saying that 'the Lambeth experiment had gone well and it looked like the government was going to downgrade cannabis, and that the Met fully supported this', but the cop said this was just a ploy to make us complacent and they were going to pull this trick lots in the next few months. They were outside the Guilford Festival and V2002 with dogs. Cuntsubble pineappleheads.
What sick kind of society would make a plant 'against the law!'? Do they think that God made a mistake? Maybe he was spending the eighth day having a smoke and relaxing and some seeds fell from his stash and started this mayhem?
Fuck them and their laws. Who cares what fucking class this or that is. Just smoke the gange and eat the shrooms, and all will become clear.

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1444009.stm

2001


 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/460116.stm

1999


 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1436689.stm

2001


All of these incidents... over a span of THREE years clearly show that the people shot were a danger to the public and police.....

Hostage taking, despite it being an imitation firearm is still hostage taking, and replica firearms being waved about are just as intimidating as the real thing to those unaware they are 'fake'...

also.... i bet you'd be less then willing to try and talk down a person waving a samauri sword in a psychotic state... coupled with the fact that other non lethal control methods such as CS had failed.

In reality the officers attending this incidents arent looking to shoot the person. far from it. They go to extreme measures to effect a non lethal take down/ arrest.

Again i come back to my earlier statement... if you start waving lethal weapons or items percieved to be such in public then you should expect a police response.

As to the incident involving the table leg... the officers were warned the individual had a shotgun... they didnt know it was a tabled leg and the actions of the individual did nothing to alter their opinion he was armed.