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Who Really Murdered Holly & Jessica?

Joe Vialls | 09.09.2002 17:04

Who Really Murdered Holly Wells & Jessica Chapman?

British Police continue to torture least likely suspects Ian Huntley and Maxine Carr from Soham Village, while deliberately ignoring thousands of more likely suspects from nearby American Air Force Bases.


TWO OF OUR LITTLE GIRLS MAY HAVE BEEN MURDERED BY US SERVICEMEN. THEIR BODIES WERE DUMPED OUTSIDE THE PERIMETER FENCE OF USAF LAKENHEATH, IN FULL VIEW OF THE WATCHTOWER NOT ONE US SERVICEMWAN HAS YET BEEN INTERVIEWED.

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When British police arrested Ian Huntley and Maxine Carr during the early hours of Saturday 17 August, on suspicion of the abduction and murder of Holly Wells and Jessica
Chapman, they did so in the certain knowledge that absolutely no hard evidence existed incriminating either suspect. The reason for the rapid arrests was very simple: Just hours earlier, two small bodies had been found near the perimeter fence at USAF Lakenheath, and the Prime Minister at 10 Downing Street was terrified of a massive political scandal involving American servicemen based in, or transiting through, the United Kingdom.

Shortly after the arrests, British and American media organizations demonized Ian Huntley and Maxine Carr so successfully that public attention was diverted away from Lakenheath completely, and focused instead on the young couple from Soham who had earlier willingly
spoken to television crews about their concerns for the well being of the two missing 10-year-old girls. Both knew the girls reasonably well. Ian Huntley was the caretaker at their school, and Maxine Carr was a former teaching auxiliary in their class.

Millions of viewers around the world watched Ian and Maxine being interviewed by the media, and most were impressed by the openness of their statements and their genuine
willingness to help if possible. Experts in non-verbal communication also noticed that Ian and Maxine’s involuntary body and eye movements perfectly matched what they were saying verbally to the journalists.

In other words, both appeared to be telling the truth both verbally and non-verbally, an almost impossible feat for even a trained liar to fabricate. It is critical to note here also that both came across on television as perfectly normal, sane individuals, a reality later to be
inexplicably challenged by police and psychiatrists in Cambridgeshire.

If Huntley and Carr had been involved at all with the abduction and murder of Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman, would they have then been stupid enough to run the gauntlet of about 10,000 American servicemen en-route, and dump the two small bodies in a location clearly visible from Lakenheath Control Tower, taxi track, and main runway?

A serviceman with detailed knowledge of activities and procedures inside the base might get away with it unseen, but certainly not two civilians from Soham in Cambridgeshire. So the perimeter would be an ideal dumping ground for American servicemen eager to return to “safe” territory at USAF Lakenheath, before either entering their barracks on the base, or catching a shuttle bus to USAF Mildenhall.

In an attempt to demonize Ian Huntley still further, police “leaked” the damning information that he had been arrested for rape a number of years earlier. Well, yes, almost. While still a teenager Huntley had consensual sex with his girlfriend, who was only 15-years-old at the
time, an offence in the United Kingdom known as statutory rape. He was never charged with an offence however, and his former girlfriend [now age 21 years] recently confirmed it
was a mutual crush [love affair], with enthusiastic sexual consent on both sides.

So for a while at least, police and media have managed to deflect attention away from the two massive nearby USAF bases at Lakenheath and Mildenhall, and the political minefield lurking just below the surface if the British public ever find out about the very large numbers
of children abused, raped, and sometimes murdered by American servicemen on overseas duty. So let us properly consider the “American Connection”, before returning later in this report to the unbelievable ongoing psychological abuse of Ian Huntley and Maxine Carr.

Though earlier in the investigation police declared they would be interviewing “700 known sex offenders” of British nationality, there was no mention of interviewing the 10,000+ US servicemen based in close proximity to Soham Village, or determining which other American servicemen has transited through the two bases, and on which flights, since Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman first disappeared.

The simple fact that Holly and Jessica’s bodies were found within yards of the USAF Lakenheath perimeter fence, which in turn provides access to the American barracks within, should have had British police knocking on Lakenheath’s front door immediately. Unfortunately, any such action might have accidentally undermined Prime Minister Tony
Blair’s personal slavish dedication to George W Bush's “War on Terror.”

Joe Vialls
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Comments

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It just shows how corrupt the government are!

09.09.2002 18:05

This just shows how corrupt the British government and the British state is! Most of us in the anarchist, anti-capitalist movement have come up against this corruption many times remember the Gadalf trial a couple of years back when the state tried to put on a show trial of members of Green Anarchist on charges of inciting terrorism!

Or the case of anarchist Mark Barnesly jailed after defending himself from a brutal attack by six drunken students in Sheffield a few years back!

And the latest act of corruption by the British state is their lies that Iraq posses weapons of mass destructure and is developing nuclear weapons inorder to justify an horrific war against Iraq! If Saddam is the head of a rogue regime that is brutal and ruthless then so is Tony Blair as we in anarchist/anti-capitist movement know only too well!!!

steelgate


Thought provoking, but...

09.09.2002 19:51

There's a lot of interesting information, and yes, it certainly stinks that the filth didn't even bother to stick their snouts in at the airbase. The human rights abuses here are not exactly unprecedented (the authorities have done this sort of thing many times) but yes, they are the sort of thing we should be up in arms about.

Problem is, because you rely heavily on some high level 'conspiracy' stuff (which may or may not be true), your good arguments and reasoning starts to lose some of its validity.

Also, your absolute insistence on the innocence of the two people arrested devalues your arguments. Yes, people are supposed to be 'innocent until proven guilty' according to the bourgeois courts. However, I for one have absolutely no idea whether they did this terrible thing or not. Similarly, I have no idea whether is was done by a US military person. Neither do I know whether it was done by a cop, a journalist, a social worker, etc, etc.

Yes, it stinks and is totally corrupt. It is good to ask why the airbase has never been investigated. But try not to get too into the conspiracy stuff as it damages your case.

Serge Forward


I Agree

09.09.2002 20:29

The Soham thing stinks worse than mouldy old reality tv.

But I'm wary of propanda from all sides !

vhuiioj


Yes but....

09.09.2002 20:39

That's the whole point. Nobody has been convicted of these murders not a shred of evidence to link Huntley or his girlfriend to the crime has been forthcoming, yet the media have implied their guilt and practically hung 'em both!

Next time, it could be YOUR face on a Tabloid Front Page, for being in the wrong place at the wrong time and that's all it takes to pronounce you a murderer, paedophile or whatever. This is a parody of justice.

Juror


What is going on?

09.09.2002 21:36

I don't know what Mr Blair thinks he is doing, but information like this should be made common knowledge to the british public. How could the BBC news team miss something as important as this? Its not a minor detail, and regardless of creating a "international" incident with america, this is two girls murdered. Full stop.

Dave


seen this before and...

09.09.2002 22:18

while on the surface there seem to be valid points raised, on closer inspection, they dont all seem so plain.

yes the bodies where found near the perimiter fence, but as far as i can gather from press reports it is very woody, and can not be seen from the base, i dont know if there is a watch tower near by, and my guess is that the above author does not either, is the author even a resident in this country?

it does seem a little strange however, that we have heard nothing of evidence, or did i miss something?

UN


yes this case stinks

09.09.2002 22:39

..as most of the 'news' put over nowadays does, This stinking story may well be a little more readable if we read between the lines as Huntley comes to court and the story progresses. I would predict some ritualism in the murders for the purpose of (1)empowerment within the energy grid (2)trauma to the sleeping public to demand elecronic tracking.How neat an outcome.
And BTW, as im has sought to strike this story down, let's try another strucken theme:
 http://www.hermes-press.com/brainwash1.htm
and hope the sneering controllers dont strike this well responded message from the record

dh


RED BULL & US PORN

10.09.2002 09:32

leaving aside the subsequent content of this article, which would need to be validated, the fact remains that not one single US serviceman appears to have been interviewed in connection with these murders.

If these men are outside of UK jurisdiction, then we are in the grip of a de-facto military occupation. What else could it be called? Oh, yes, it's called the "special relationship", silly me.

I imagine most people will try to brainwash themselves into
forgetting the reality that we have god knows how many 10's of thousands of US troops boltholed around our country.

All of these men are force fed the most denigrating pornography so as to keep their accelarated sex drives in check, which have been amplified by substances such as synthesised bull semen, which is now repackaged as 'RED BULL' & fed to the rest of us.

What percentage of UK rapes & murders are actually committed by US servicemen? Does anyone know? Of course not. I imagine the "special relationship" couldn't stand the strain.

In the meantime lets just keep accepting that the feminist argument that "all men are potential rapists", as it's easier for us all to accept the lie that joe normals can suddenly turn into violent rapists for no apparent reason.

James Venables


"All men are potential racists"

10.09.2002 10:34

The slogan that "all men are potential rapists" is as meaningless as saying "all politicians are potential anarchists," "all anarchists are potential Home Secretaries," "all women are potential sexual abusers of their own kids," "all gays are potential straights," ad infinitum....

In other words, it's rubbish.

Have a nice day.

Rob

Serge Forward


"It's rubbish"

10.09.2002 12:27

"It's Rubbish".

My point exactly. Feminism has become subverted by the state into a geneticised contempt for men, which enables us to readily accept that an everyday man can suddenly turn, & murder two little girls.

It's takes military training to turn men into killers, & with 10,000+ potential killers holed up round the corner fom Soham, that's where my money is.

Roll on the third wave of Feminism, which has the brains to realise that men are not the enemy, & capitalism is to blame for turning men into murderers using production line techniques.

James Venables


Evidence

10.09.2002 13:52

This is an example of trial by media. While the popular press has condemned outright those charged with murder of the two girls, the alternative media is rejecting outright the possibility they might be guilty. If you have any evidence that could cast doubt on these defendants' guilt, then I suggest you contact their defence lawyers immediately. However, if you're coming up with groundless theories regarding the deaths of two little girls to back your conspiratorial ideology and/or anti-American prejudices, then I suggest you should take a long, hard look at yourself. Murder is not some political game to be used by the right or left. It is the killing of innocent people, in this case probably following the rape of two children.

Dan


Everything is a lie

10.09.2002 22:33

Hi Dan. I read the Guardian article on the new Bin Laden Al Qaida style video tape today and could have almost pissed myself laughing. Flight manuals were visible along with an air chart of the US, a computer printed out air charts, hijackers scribbled notes on air routes in the US. an unseen hand pointed with a rough stick at the Pentagon. Sorry - this is fucking bullshit. You have to know when you are being lied to - which is every minute of every day at the moment. No wonder people get wound up over the Soham lies.

dh


Lies

11.09.2002 08:44

DH: If everything is lies, how do I know you are telling the truth?

Dan


This is offensive and crap

12.09.2002 20:12

Last time this was story was posted, it got a ludicrous anti-semitic reply stating that the girls had been murdered by jews. Everybody got rightly offended, but nobody pointed out that this article uses the same logic - simply substituting 'americans' for 'jews' in the conspiracy narrative.

Yes the press reporting is assuming people are guitly without trial, something that that well-known radical, the Judge, pointed out in court. But whether or not the police have got the right people (and I'd like to reserve judgement till the evidence has been aired), it is a fact that many 'ordinary blokes' do battter, rape and kill women and children (not to mention other men). This is not feminist brainwashing as one respondent claimed but a simple observation - how often does it happen the other way round? By definition these men are fucked up in one way or another, some from military experiences, others from childhood ones.

Please spare us the 'americans are over here killing our children' hysteria, and please don't feel obliged to join in with every tabloid in jumping on this private tragedy to make a pseudo-political point.

Neil


Law Prevents Details Coming out til after Trial

20.08.2003 12:05

Hi,
I do love all this rubbish about the conspiracy on the Soham murder trial, becuase the British Tabloids have not produced every single piece of evidence in relation to the trial.
The reason for this is almost contradictory, they want to see Ian huntley put awayvery badly, so they are releaseing no details.
If details were released, especially by the tabloids, it would be seen as endangering the trial, the tabloids have already been in trouble for demonising Ian Huntley.
Wait til the trial is over and you can get your hands on all the 'juicy' details you seem to want.
Though on another note, I understand that there may be something to do with remains inthe school waste disposal unit. Hence why all the journalists came out with comments such as being sickened about being in the school....

Ed


Lies and Fabrication

04.12.2003 03:07

Thats the biggest load of bollox i have ever heard in my life , how do you explain the kids shirts being burned in the school incinerator how did the kids get to lakenheath in the first place (bodies) and while i agree that tony blair is a slavish puppet to mr bush this is not the way to topple somebody like that from there perch its disgracful journalism unfounded and stupidyour a disgrace to your profession

Troy mc Clure


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