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London NO WAR Demo 28 Sept 2002

David Edmond | 28.09.2002 16:09

The London NO WAR Demonstration progressing towards Trafalgar Square at about 2pm

The London NO WAR Demonstration progressing towards Trafalgar Square at about 2pm on 28th September 2002

David Edmond
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28.09.2002 17:26



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David


Gang up on them

28.09.2002 18:46

Feeling disillusioned by today’s protest, my fifth, since the ‘war on terror’ began, I decided it accomplished nothing, but having thought about it some more, it did achieve something, it demonstrated that peaceful protest is no longer an option, it is ineffective and the only other alternative is, civil disobedience and direct action.

No-Name


Keep vision and hope (no reason to ditch them

29.09.2002 21:48

Protest movements take time to work. As the movement grows, there will be impact. People are having an impact. I live in California. From the US, I can tell you that were it not for the strong opposition in the world community and the sudden massive wave of people calling and faxing their US Congress reps (usually 95% against the war), Bush might have already been fighting in Iraq. The US mainstream media isn't covering the flood of calls and letters to Congress in a full way because the media has (at best) structural/systemic issues. But it's happening, and it's having an impact, and as the movement grows, so too will its impact.

Who knows where things will go, but you have nothing to gain from not speaking out and keeping a positive attitude.

I sometimes think about the anti-nuclear activists in the 1980s. Those folks started out in tiny numbers. But eventually, there were more than 1 million people in Central Park at the biggest event and the movement had an impact. Yes, the world is still as nuts as it was then -- in different ways. But it had an impact then and the movement is coming back, now that the United States has an open doctrine of global empire (believe it or not, open debate about "our" empire is now in the US media from time to time). Part of that "neo-conservative" doctrine includes the insanity of first strike tactical nuclear weapons planning and total domination of space by the US. So, the vanguard over here is really beginning to see how war-driven the US system is and is slowly organizing.

It doesn't take more than 10% of any national population to have a major impact and create substantial change. With the way things are going in the US (the repression that people will eventually begin to understand and the fact that megacorporation capitalism and organized crime politics are whacking the middle class), I wouldn't be surprised to see 10% or more of the American population mad as hell in a year or two, and that's going to bring a dialectical process of change, whatever the "synthesis" will be is unknown as of yet, but things are definitely in a state of flux and ripe for improvement. The movement may not be strong enough in time to stop military action against Iraq, but the movement is growing, and it's going to address the even bigger issue of US policy on global empire.

Violence (the probable subtext of your comment) is not a logical option (sorry to all you folks on the FAR left, but "the state" is just way to big and 100% non-violence WILL WORK).

Joe


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