Yes, we are against imperialist war--the global war of the rich against the poor. Are we against the poor waging war on the rich? Of course not. Do you really think that we can get shut of capitalism without civil war? Of course we can't. This is just a case of Anarchists opportunistically soft-soaping the pacificists. We have to educate the working class to understand that the capitalists will NOT, under any circumstances, voluntarily give up their ill-gotten gains without a physical struggle. It is nonsense to suggest otherwise. They will have to be forcibly disarmed and expropriated. And to do that the workers and the oppressed will have to be armed. The class struggle will become more and more polarised leading inevitably to civil war. There is no escaping this fact. You may not like it, but it is the truth. Get real.

Pacifist Ghandiism led only to colonialism in a differnt form: semi-colonialism. India STILL remains a disaster area with HUNDREDS of millions of people living in appalling make-shift shantytown slums. Go there and see it if you don't believe this. You will be absolutely shaken to the core, as I was when I went there a few years ago. But you would never know this living in Britain. The British media shamefully does not report this kind of thing.

Mandelaism led to the present day catastrophe which is South Africa (it doesn' even have its African name--that's how much "change" there has been). It is a poverty striken, AIDS ridden, abomination.

Arafat's pacifist Oslo Agreement has changed NOTHING--as can be seen by anyone with the slightest knowledge of Palestine and the Middel East. And Adam's capitulation in the "Black Friday Agreememnt" in Ireland has also been a total failure--witness the present collapse of the Executive.

The Anarchists are a bunch of posturing muddleheads.

Join the Party for Communist Refoundation contingent in Florence and talk to the Trotskyist "Proposta" opposition grouping of this party--many of whom speak English. They will give you a realistic analysis of the the situation in Italy and the class struggle internationally.

Proposta web-site:  http://www.geocities.com/capitolhill/lobby/3545/proposta.html

Proposta e-mail:  redpro@tin.it

Communist Rifondazione in Italy has signed the agreement with the masters on the temporary and flexible job and ago opposition to the wars only to words. To Aviano it has not had the courage not to fight against the base usaf, there are only anarchical we with people of the territories to contrast the Americans... rifondazione is only a party opportunist, informs before speaking to you.

"We have to educate the working class to understand that..."

No you dont have to do fuck all. You must be aware of how deeply patronising those words are. You arent even capable of defining that sentence, please go ahead and try.

Who is `we`? What defines `working class`? What does `understand` mean in this context? What do you do with the `working class` who dont agree? Kill them? Send the police round? Re-education camps? Please tell us.

People like you show the death of pre-ordained sets of belief systems, things that the rest of us are trying to get away from.

RfC have sold out, they are already licking the DS arsehole.
they are part of the masonic crime ring that runs Siena
(Siena city council). Florence is also DS/ MAFIA/ MASONIC
strong hold. Just look what happened to the football team
"FIORENTINA in the hands of DS frontman and arch crook Cecchi- Gori, they tried to "buy" him a parlimentary seat in Scicily but the deal went wrong, other wise he could have been able to go on parlimentary immunity and get away with his own little crime wave.

20 years ago the PCI protected Tuscany from the mafia and the DC, now they are big business partners .

NO SOCIAL JUSTICE IN TUSCANY AND THE REFONDAZIONE ARE PART OF THE REGIME ......

"Pacifist Ghandiism led only to colonialism in a differnt form [] India STILL remains a disaster area [] " (*)

"Mandelaism led to the present day catastrophe which is South Africa " (*)

"Arafat's pacifist Oslo Agreement has changed NOTHING" (*)

While, on the other hand, the "people's armed movement"
and the "civil wars" have been extremely succesfull - like
in Russia (USSR), in Spain (Franco), in France (Terror
regime following the french 1792 revolution), in Palestine
(the armed stuggle is achieving nothing), in China, in
Korea, in many african states, in many south american
states, and, really, most of the civil/liberation wars
ever led.

If you wanna change the bosses, go ahead. If you want to
remove bosses, by definition you won't do that by imposing
your choices.

(*) I won't bother here, but those statements are highly
arguable.

Blah, blah, blah - but what is the POINT in this silly campaign?
Do the banderoles need an airing?
In that case please do not stain the marvelous city of Florence with your stained banderoles. Go somewhere else, preferably away.