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MP's out of touch on gay rights

Sense | 04.11.2002 15:41

The House of Commons is out of touch on gay rights, with the Tories a very good example!

The Conservatives, especially the liberal side of the party, are completely out of touch on the issue of gay "rights". The vast majority of the population do not see homosexuality as an equally valid "lifestyle", and in a recent poll in the Scotsman, around 50% of respondants believed gay "sex" should be illegal.

The Tory party keeps saying they think homosexuality is fine and acceptable and "equal", and then suggesting we keep Section 28 and the ban on gay couples adopting. It looks to me like they're just trying to please everyone, and ending up pleasing nobody and making their ideas and party look foolish. The Tories need to either start zealously backing their stance against gay adoption and in favour of Section 28, a stance that the majority of the voters out there back, even if the out of touch liberal MP's don't, or be honest and make it clear they support homosexuality, so that another more sane party can pick-up their votes.

Why on earth don't the Tories come out of the closet and admit where their ideology stands on the issue. It's not the fact they're seen as "nasty" that puts the voters off, it's the fact they look like ineffectual fools with no particular concrete principles on this issue or in fact many other issues such as Europe (which the majority are also sceptical of).

Another issue which is disturbing is the stealthy and quiet way that MP's steamrollered through the removal of our laws on Gross Indecency. These laws were passed for a reason, that certain homosexual acts were depraved enough to cause widespread offence and therefore should be banned. One case involved a man who was arrested for making depraved videos of "gay" men engaged in sado masochistic acts and homosexual group-sex. The videos involved such disgusting scenes that the police, for a change, decided to act, and arrested him for Gross Indecency. He was charged and found guilty, however he appealed to the European Court of Human Rights. As the result of a case in the European Kangaroo Court of Human Rights, the government was ordered (by this foreign court) to remove our laws on the subject. Soon it will be perfectly legal for a man to go around soliciting gay sex, yet illegal for a heterosexual to do the equivilent. In addition, it will soon be perfectly legal for homosexuals to hang around public toilets and practice homosexuality in public places. The police will have no powers to stop them. How would you like to have to try and use a public toilet with these disgusting perverts in there? If you did anything about it it'd be _you_ in trouble, not them.

MP's are out of touch:

Most parents want Section 28 strengthened, most MP's want it removed.

Most people don't agree with gays being allowed to adopt, most MP's do.

A large section of the population (up to about 50% even) want sodomy made illegal again, you'd be hard pressed to find more than a handful of MP's who would agree with this.

When the liberal lefties argue for a more "representative" House of Commons, they should start by ensuring people's views on this subject are represented for a change, rather than just ignored and ridden roughshod over to please the European Kangaroo Court of Human Rights.

Sense

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Yes they are out of touch

04.11.2002 15:52

The majority of people in this country when quizzed in a recent pole beleived that gay sex between consenting adults should remain illegal.

exterminate


last refuge of scoundrels

04.11.2002 17:23

You can always tell when someone has no arguments when they start claiming to be the 'silent majority'. The above article is a classic case; simple bigotry, fear and hatred dressed up as a concern for democracy.

Well, sorry, but what kind of democracy makes some people and their feelings illegal? Because that's what we're talking about.

Gay people can't choose not to be gay; the only choice we have is to live openly or secretly. In other words, to be out and proud, or to live a lie in constant fear of the law and of being found out.

So wave your polling data at us all you like, pal. We're not going to live in fear to make you happy. We're here, we're queer, we're not going away. Get used to it!

out'n'proud
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makes the extermination squads jobs easier

04.11.2002 22:36

We're here, we're queer, we're not going away - will sure make the job of the 'identify and exterminate' squads easier.

SS_Man


hmmm

04.11.2002 23:22

i feel sorry for people who actually spend time and energy trying to convince people that, consenting sexual activity and loving relationships should be banned....
what has it got to do with you?
do u have nothing better to do with your time?
get out and meet people and try to found some happiness in your life...
how about, all the time that you would normally spend telling people that their feelings are illegal, you could spend with your g'friend....
that way, as well as doing something half way productive, u'd be proving just how un-homosexual you are, big man.

....


You got it wrong

05.11.2002 13:15

Check your information, section 28 is not about adoption, section 28 is about "Prohibition on promoting homosexuality by teaching or by publishing material. "

See
 http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1988/Ukpga_19880009_en_5.htm#mdiv28

Amongst other things, this FORBIDS teachers from even telling their pupils that there is such a thing as homosexuality. There were times during which pupils weren't allowed to be left handed - they had to write, eat and work with their right hand. Nowadays, this sounds like an archaic absurdity. How long till the anachronistic section 28 is removed and seen, as it should, as an archaic absurdity ?

Sense, your bigot article did make one intresting point : democracy - the rule of the bigger number - sucks ! Anarchy now !

gay'n'proud


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