What is this christmas thing?
redkop | 19.12.2002 12:02
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everyones a fool except you
19.12.2002 12:14
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Happy Argos
19.12.2002 12:30
Christians gorge on a glut of poisons to revere their Creator at Xmas.
Everyone is dumbed down with chemicals, so they don't understand they are being sucked into a consumer vortex.
BTW - Happy New War!
Satan's Little Helper
What is this christmas thing ?
19.12.2002 12:57
redkop
Christophobia
19.12.2002 14:26
Grygri
The Answer
19.12.2002 14:42
CD
What Is Xmas? I Reveal All!
19.12.2002 14:47
The old is passed there's a new beginning.
Dreams of Santa, dreams of snow,
Fingers numb, faces aglow.
Christmas time, mistletoe and wine
Children singing Christian rhyme
With logs on the fire and gifts on the tree
A time for rejoicing in all that we see
A time for living, a time for believing,
A time for trusting, not deceiving.
Love and laughter and joy ever after,
Ours for the taking, just follow the Master.
Christmas time, mistletoe and wine
Children singing Christian rhyme
With logs on the fire and gifts on the tree
A time for rejoicing in all that we see
A time for giving, a time for getting,
A time for forgiving and for forgetting.
Christmas is love, Christmas is peace
A time for hating and fighting to cease
Christmas time, mistletoe and wine
Children singing Christian rhyme
With logs on the fire and gifts on the tree
A time for rejoicing in all that we see
Christmas time, mistletoe and wine
Children singing Christian rhyme
With logs on the fire and gifts on the tree
A time for rejoicing in all that we see
C.R.
Still awaiting definitive answers .
19.12.2002 14:52
redkop
Still waiting for answers.
19.12.2002 15:29
Redkop
In answer to "What is Christmas"
19.12.2002 16:44
1. What Christmas is supposed to be about.
2. What Christmas has come to be about in reality.
1. Christmas, as the name suggests, is supposed to be about Christ. It is supposed to be about the celebration of his birth, like one big birthday party I suppose. Like a birthday we give gifts to people to show our love and affection for them. Chirst and Christianity is all about love so I guess giving presents is our symbolic way of showing this to one another. Christmas should revolve around Christ and God and our celebration and worship of him, and rejoycing in the good news (in this fucked up world), and our thanking of he for sacrifycing his life in such a horredrous way for us mostly scumy people and for thanking him for offering a future of happiness after we climb out of this shit hole that we have created.
2. But in reality Christmas has little to do with Christ anymore. Most people forget that the first 6 letters of the words Christmas are "Christ". Most people have forgotten or don't believe that this is supposed to be a celebration of him. Instead, true to our selfish nature, true to our animal instincts and ture to the nature of capitalism, we have turned Christmas into a time of the celebration of "Self". Christmas for most people is time off from work, office parties, going on the piss as many times as possible with friends, drinking, eating, buying clothes for oneself, one big hedonist party, etc. etc. We also buy presents for our friends and loved ones and this is essentially good (refer to my first answer), but again this has lost much of its meaning in that, urged on by Capitalism, the presents we purchase have gone overboard and we now spend ridiculous amount of money on people. Where as we should be just buying symbolic "tokens" for people to express our love for them, and we should try and devote much of our spending power to give to those who are really in need, and to those who can't give back to us, as essentially buying presents is like buying presnents for "yourself" (again) as every presnet we give out we get back.
But I do think giving tokens is true to the Christmas meaning as it does promote a goodwill feeling in us and a feeling of love towards others.
So I think Christmas has not come to be a "total" disaster in that feelings of goodwill towards our fellow man and neighbour are promoted. But the true meaning of it (i.e. Christ) has been lost and the true meaning of our neighbour has been lost and to those who we really should be giving so much more to.
Probably not the answer you wanted to hear or believe in, but I believe it is somewhere in and around the "truth".
Best regards,
Anonymous
THIS MUST BE UP FOR A PRIZE
19.12.2002 17:16
ANOTHER OPINION
Response to Another Opinion
19.12.2002 18:02
Also, Christmas has also become a symbolism of Capitalism, a symbol of how Capitalism has taken over the world and pushed all other ideoligies aside. And again considering this site is largely anti-capitalist, and offering an alternative news medium to the capatilist, right-wing controlled world media, again I think the relevance is clear.
Best regards,
Anonymous
In response to ANOTHER OPINION
19.12.2002 18:16
Also, Christmas has also become a symbolism of Capitalism, a symbol of how Capitalism has taken over the world and pushed all other ideoligies aside. And again considering this site is largely anti-capitalist, and offering an alternative news medium to the capatilist, right-wing controlled world media, again I think the relevance is clear.
Best regards,
Anonymous
Christmas is crap - unfortunately
19.12.2002 19:40
Unfortunately most of us who celebrate it do so in stupid and stupefied fashion, and ultimately help line the bulging wallets of the real rulers of the world, who will no doubt celebrate the true meaning of the season with a few ritual rapes and human sacrifices. In fact, I'm sure they'd have liked a bit of mass slaughter in Iraq going on this year to help them really relish Yuletide.
Foiled in this, perhaps they'll give us a terrorist atrocity instead.
BTW thanks for your persistence in reposting the article. THAT BLOODY ERROR MESSAGE HAS BLOCKED EVERYTHING i'VE POSTED OR COMMENTED ON IN THE PAST WEEK OR TWO, including a post asking im to do something about it.
Hope my participation here doesn't take down your contrbution too
dh
My secret pain
20.12.2002 10:23
Christmas is crap..when i was 14 i got Mirage, a Transformer..he was a racecar that transformed into a robot..my brother broke it and i cried. I still havent got over it.
Gerk Francisss
Christmas never has been about christ
22.12.2002 23:58
Christains have attached a name, and some rituals to it, but christmas isn't about anything - it's just a traditional time for people have fun together, when there's not much daylight. I don't see anything wrong with that. There's a lot wrong with the world, and we need to do something about it, but I don't see why we can't also spend some time enjoying each other's company.
In capitalist socety, traders use christmass as an oportunity to sell as much as they possibly can, as they do any other opportunity. That's a problem with capitilism, not christmas.
athiest