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Hackney Siege: Still Ongoing

Loop | 28.12.2002 21:16

As it comes to it's 3rd day, can this be the most under-reported siege in the UK?

It seems an awful lot of armed police of various types and varieties to have gone almost un-noticed outside of the immediate area of this so called siege.

Since Thursday morning a small area of Hackney has been closed off. There are rooftop snipers, armed officers on the all sides of this one man's flat situated in Graham Rd, Mare St end, Hackney E8. Residents in the immediate area of the property have been evacuated.

It seems, however, a little excessive given the circumstances (one lone man, holed up in a single flat). The official line given by the Police is as follows:

On Thursday morning police officers noticed a car that they suspected of being involved in another incident (maybe a robbery in the west end where a police officer was shot at?). The started to tow the car away. A man appeared at a window and berated them. They summoned the Met's S019 Unit (Armed Response Unit). When they arrived and tried to enter the flat, they say they were shot at and they retreated. No Police officer was injured. And the siege began.

Local residents however report hearing a lot of gunfire, which contradicts with this story. A BBC spokesperson confirmed tonight on the phone that the police now admit having fired 'a few times'.

The siege has closed off Graham Road and Sylvester Road. There are about 100 officers many of them armed. Rooftop snipers have their guns trained on the property from all sides. There also ground based marksmen, officers in full body armour and dog handlers all working round the clock surrounding this one property. There are fire engine crews, police control lorries and fleets of ambulances.

All of the beat officers guarding the cordoned off streets are from outside of Hackney and have very little idea of what is going on. They are therefore, not really able to explain to residents what is going on.

The firepower deployed and the scale of the siege seems unusually excessive. The media coverage for such a large scale and long event seems to be unusually low.

Last night, officers used the police tannoy system to speak directly to the man. They called him Elie and implored him to speak to them, to let them know he was ok.

The man has been reported to be in his early 30s, black and not a local resident of Hackney. he may have been injured in the inital exchange of fire on Thursday morning.

Police officers have tried to dissuade anyone except from press from filming or photographing the event even from behind official police lines.

It seems events like this, as long as they are in working class areas, can be deemed so normal as to not worth covering or paying attention to. Normal it is not.

Loop

Comments

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pathetic waste of resources.

29.12.2002 02:46

I cant see why so much police man power is being wasted on this. The police have become too pc in this drive to 'always end incidents with less then lethal force'. I think in situations like this, where a person is clearly armed to the teeth and isnt afraid to fire on officers who are trying to remove a car, that the police should be authorised to use SWAT style tactics like the USA use. Send in a METPOL S019 team and shoot the fucker. Problem solved. A team of 4 officers armed with mp5s and glocks could have that son of a bitch out dead on a stretcher in 20 minutes. The longer they wait about, the more oportunities this person has to take pot shots at people.
Once someone makes the decision to start firing a gun in public or shooting at people/police... then a lethal response shouldnt be considered unacceptable.

marksman 501


needed alive

29.12.2002 02:52

There is always the chance that this person is needed alive. He may have vital information that is needed to prevent further criminal activity/capture suspects at large or indeed if this is a more insidious incident like a holed up terrorist, his 'live' capture could be essential to prevent further activity. of course this is all speculation. hes probably just another fucking yardie or street thug that shouldnt have been allowed into the country in the first place.

the enforcer


yeah.!!!

29.12.2002 10:16

Because obviously the guy is guilty, yeah? fuck you marksman & enforcer, here's hoping he kills a couple of you pig bastards before he gets slotted.

acab


Second man involved

29.12.2002 14:38

Source: BBC

A second man is inside the flat at the centre of an armed siege in east London.
Police have been surrounding the flat in Hackney since Boxing Day, where a man armed with a handgun has refused to give himself up.

Following negotiations last night, officers have discovered the gunman is not alone in the flat, in Graham Street.

A spokesman said: "We have recently discovered there is a second man inside, but we are not sure what the relationship is.


Neighbours have been moved away
"We do not know whether he is being held against his will or whether he is an associate of the suspect."

He said officers were still trying to bring a peaceful end to the siege, which has now entered its fourth day.

The stand-off began at 1120 GMT on Boxing Day when officers spotted a car suspected of being involved in a shooting in Leicester Square.

They were trying to tow it away, but withdrew after a confrontation with a man in a nearby flat.

Returned fire

Nearby roads were cordoned off and neighbours moved to safety.

Armed police were called in, but they were shot at as they tried to enter the flat in Graham Road and returned fire.

It is believed the man inside the flat may have been injured but he has refused medical help.

The siege is also causing some traffic problems as Graham Road, the A1207, is one of the main roads through Hackney.

Loop


BBC - blatant left wing political news

29.12.2002 15:00

Yet again I note with some interest that the BBC doesnt mention a description of this 'gunman'. And the reason is quite obviously apparent.... he'll be black. The BBC, being the political news media arm of new labour has thrown itself head on in the support of this disturbing multicultural melting pot in which we live. That means they want to hide the fact that the vast majority of gun crime and robberies in London are committed by Black males. Ignore politically correct crap, target them, and you'll see effective reduction in the crime levels.

Despair


Marksman/enforcer/despair

29.12.2002 22:47

I don't know why, but i have a funny feeling that marksman, the enforcer and despair maybe the same person writing racist bullshit as to try and stir up uneeded arguments, to keep us from talking about what is actually happening in east london @ the moment.
I may be wrong, but it's a hunch!

:) The time IS NOW :)


long time....

08.01.2003 22:51

One has to wonder if this was happening in Knightsbridge or somesuch whether the Police would be so laid back... the total lack of media coverage is no surprise though...

abroad


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