Bush and Blair have got the support of the majority of the worlds population because we are losing the propaganda war. Most people dont buy our argument that the war is for oil and come to think of it cant we do better than that?

Most people believe Bush and Blairs warnings of weapons of mass destruction and believe that Iraq presents a real threat! We have done nothing at all to counter those arguments! Like I said we are losing the propaganda war with over 60 per cent of the worlds popualation now in favour of military action against Iraq!

We should also be realistic about the number we get on our anti-war demonstrations. No way did we get 400,000 last September as I was on both the countryside and anti-war marches and no way was there anti-war march as big. 150,000 was the offical estimate we should stick with that. In two weeks we might get 180,000 out on the streets. But we shouldn't think we have majority support or that we are winning the propaganda war! We are losing lets get realistic for fucks sake!!!

Harley,

you really shouldn't start trolling IndyMedia after you've been at the station's hash stash. Your postings are self contradictory at the best of times but this evening you're hooting like a loon. Just because a few wannabe poodles have signed a letter to the Times supporting Bush's war it doesn't mean that international public opinion has changed. Didn't they teach you anything at Hendon.

Love and Kisses

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Having the support of a majority of people or the UN Security Council does not make war morally right. This war is primarily about oil supply, not humanitarian issues.

If the UN was genuinely committed to human rights, it would have done more to avert the war that swept through Rwanda, Burundi and the Democratic Republic of Congo, a war that killed over four million and saw combatants use rape camps and cannibalism to terrorise civilians. Where was public opinion then? Where was the UN? Why didn't we stop arms supplies to combatants?

There are, however, a number of UN agencies which do admirable work and have exposed the flaws of war. The following link is to IRIN, a UN news service which continues to report on the humanitarian disaster caused by war in Afghanistan - something forgotten by the West.

H: 'No way did we get 400,000 last September'

Agreed, it was closer to 500,000!

H: 'I was on both the countryside and anti-war marches'

Were you now? How kurious.. I wonder what could inspire your interest in two such different protests? ;-)

H: 'over 60 per cent of the worlds popualation now in favour of military action against Iraq'

Wow! You must have some network of contacts to have polled 60% of the world's population! Impressive, and just as plausible and convincing as your usual contributions.

I look forward to your Feb 15 report: 'Let's be honest, there were no more than a hundred, tops!' :-)