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The Sun - these people are dangerous!

Harlequin | 17.02.2003 09:25

Here is a quote from the Sun the warmongering idiots and fools who want to drag us into World War Three "A MILLION Britons had a jolly day out on the anti-war march.
It was like a carnival without the costumes. But let’s not get carried away. Fifty-eight million other Brits DIDN’T march on London. They weren’t suckered by has-beens like Tony Benn or never-will-be Charles Kennedy. The reality is, the big march changes nothing. Tony Blair on Saturday set out indisputable moral and political arguments. We’ve said many times that no sane person wants war. But what do the wobblers suggest the world does about Saddam Hussein?"

People like the Sun are putting out the governments vile propaganda that war is the only solution and that we must all support war even though war will bring enormous death and destruction onto one of the poorest peoples on earth! Aswell as ignoring the fact that the coming war is all about oil and US power!

Aswell as ignoring that fact that the world is full of brutal dictators nearly all backed and armed by western countries! We can do something about these dangerous fools how about naming and shaming their staff! We can publish the names and addresses of these warmongers on the internet. These people are worse than Nazis its high time we did something about them!

Harlequin

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Lest we forget

17.02.2003 10:46

Lest we forget which angle The Sun is coming from on this, check out the 'Top Sun adopts RAF aces'
( http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,5-2003062483,00.html) article.

This is the same newspaper that attempted to villify Paxman for his amusing use of the word poodle by suggesting he was reducing the debate to primary school level, then proceeded to refer to Belgiums recent stance by saying the Belgian PM was, to quote, 'worried about chocolate shortage'.

It's always a good newspaper to check out if you feel a need to get really angry about the oncoming war...

C D


scum propaghanda

17.02.2003 10:46

yeah, the sun has sunk to new lows lately, which is saying something. the quote above is a classic exampleof propaganda, u declare that one side's arguments are flawless and correct, then ask 'so what do the 'wobblers' think we should do?' and then don't let them answer!
but people seem to be resisting the corporate propaganda. even though all papers except the mirror are pro-war, the public is still overwhelmingly against it. In the long run I think this could be the start of something good in UK politics.

hk


Sun twists history for its own sales

17.02.2003 11:57

What can we do about Saddam the Sun asks. Well well what a short memory the Sun has. I seem to remember a certain love affair between the Sun and M Thatchers Conservative Goverment in the 1980s.Im sure they could find pictures in their archives of the Halabja gas massacre in 1988.Im also sure they could find photographs of DAVID MELLOR, then a Foreign Office minister (+ Secretary to the Treasury?)who was visiting Baghdad at the time. Within a month Defense Minister Tony Newton had returned to Baghdad to offer, on behalf of the British Thatcher government £340 million in export credits. Britain's trade with Iraq had risen from £2.9 million in 1987 to £31.5 million.Iraq becomes Britain's third biggest market for 'dual-use' machine tools.
We would not have the problem of Saddam if the British, US and Russia, to name a few had not armed him in the first place.
The only dangerous people here work at the Sun.
The word of our times is hypocrisy and the Sun knows that word better than most Politicians.

And can you imagine what a good war will do for sales!

M Lacey
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but what would you do?

17.02.2003 12:00

Yes. But the question remains. What would you lot do about Saddam? We're all waiting...

will


What about Saddam?

17.02.2003 12:04

Yes, I am also waiting to find that one out after I've found out the other one about Adolf Sharon, and maybe even Dear Leader Kim...

Jews For Jesus the Messiah


In the Sun an average of 2 'Readers get to kn

17.02.2003 12:09

ow anything about i.e. Bolivia!


__its just, that print media isnt anymore. Its the ressource-consumer(yes, guns are products) Industry that lay upon the journalistic Affair its deadly costume for this, indeed carnival, or animal farm.

the sun asks, what to do? The int. Justice Court could do, if the fairy "Biedermann" Right-conserv-nationalist. Falks would let it be. The what is the plan of the pro war accountants? So you wont let the old europe not on the table. What table? We dont profit nor want your economic international interest be raged out with destruction of goods, work and some soldiers lifes.

progress beyond the general saint legitimacy of mens agressivity, play online multiplayer games, but let the people be free; Politicians, if there are some left at all.

your indysh Siku

stick-you
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What would i do?

17.02.2003 12:43

Hey your talking to a pessimist here and i am no pacifist.
All i know is (having been in a war from the dirty end)is that things go to shit pretty quick.The possibility for this particular shit getting very much out of control is enormous. War on this particular occassion is not the answer.Yes Saddam tortures people but so do other leaders that we actually support or turn a blind eye to.I for one do not percieve him as a threat to his neighbors or my country. I don't see our Goverment talking about attacking Zimbabwe. Maybe we should attack Russia for killing and torturing civilians in Chechnya.The list is to long to go into right now. We can't solve all the problems of the world (Mankind is a *^%"*! up race) As for Iraq i would keep on his case so he can't move one way or the other. Try and get more personell (of any kind) into the country
Any way whats the rush? If the people who are pro war? and of enlistment age i sincerely hope they will support our leaders and join the fight, even if you dont'see action in Iraq there will be plenty more to come.Problems are harder to solve the second and third time around if lies, deceit and self interest were paramount the first time around!

M Lacey


Who elected the US as policemen of the world?

17.02.2003 14:07

expose the lies. expose the abuse. expose the cosy arrangements between the US/UK and corporate bodies. make ALL the idiot warmongers stand there without clothes and their palms greasy with dripping oil. expose the complicity.
Saddam is only one part of a big picture. Honesty can have startling results.

heather


what to do...

17.02.2003 14:19

How about this for a policy... Stop, or at least, change the sanctions.
>This
>would immediately save lives and stop people depending on Saddam's regime
>for survival. Stop supporting and arming the Turkish ethnic cleansing of
>their Kurdish population (50,000 dead, 2 million displaced since 1990) and
>listen to what the Kurds want, if it is a united Kurdistan then make it
>happen. Saddam has no authority in the Kurdish areas of Iraq anyway, only
>Turkey can stop it happening and Turkey is almost entirely armed by the US.
>Support DEMOCRATIC Iraqi opposition living in the country, not defectors
>who
>hope to be installed in the next dictatorship. Stop supporting and arming
>Israel's defiance of the SC council, which spans 60 resolutions and 35
>years. Keep diplomatic pressure on Saddam. Implement the other part of the
>original SC resolution on Iraq which called for general disarmament in the
>region (Isreal that means you). Start complying with the Nuclear
>non-proliferation treaty and try to get the US to do the same.

hk


Forget Saddam

17.02.2003 16:23


What are we going to do about the Sun? and Blair? Regime change begins at home!

STOP NYC INc.


What to do, what to do...

18.02.2003 12:27

OK, so the Sun and the government continually whines on about Saddam being an evil dictator etc (I'm not going to debate that here). They also claim that war against the Iraqis is the only way to get rid of Saddam, this is of course total bullshit.

Realisticly the US and the UK governments want the oil etc, but if they really want to take out Saddam, well there are dozens of CIA agents inthe area capable of doing the job. It only takes one bullet, not a shitload of bombs.
Only one person dies instead of 1 million +

(I'm not suggesting that they SHOULD do this, but come on, it's a lot cleaner yeah?)

Dogshit
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just one thing

19.02.2003 11:55

Harlequin: 'These people are worse than Nazis'

No they're not. The Sun has a terrible record of whipping up racism and hatred of the marginalised generally, and so they bear a share of responsibility for creating a mood that allows racist murders at home and racist wars abroad.

But they haven't systematically killed ten million people in death camps, nor have they advocated doing so. So let's not make the rather silly claim that they're 'worse than Nazis'. Especially when real Nazis (the BNP) are organising and need to be organised against.

awake
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