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Go Ogle Big Brother

magog | 18.04.2003 21:17

Matt Cutts, a key Google engineer, used to work for the National Security Agency. Google wants to hire more people with security clearances, so that they can peddle their corporate assets to the spooks in Washington.

Go Ogle Big Brother
Go Ogle Big Brother




 http://www.google-watch.org/bigbro.html

That's why we nominated Google for a Big Brother award in 2003. The nine points we raised in connection with this nomination necessarily focused on privacy issues. By the time the 2004 nominations are open, we hope that this list will be shorter rather than longer. But don't count on it.

1. Google's immortal cookie:
Google was the first search engine to use a cookie that expires in 2038. This was at a time when federal websites were prohibited from using persistent cookies altogether. Now it's years later, and immortal cookies are commonplace among search engines; Google set the standard because no one bothered to challenge them. This cookie places a unique ID number on your hard disk. Anytime you land on a Google page, you get a Google cookie if you don't already have one. If you have one, they read and record your unique ID number.

2. Google records everything they can:
For all searches they record the cookie ID, your Internet IP address, the time and date, your search terms, and your browser configuration. Increasingly, Google is customizing results based on your IP number. This is referred to in the industry as "IP delivery based on geolocation."

3. Google retains all data indefinitely:
Google has no data retention policies. There is evidence that they are able to easily access all the user information they collect and save.

4. Google won't say why they need this data:
Inquiries to Google about their privacy policies are ignored. When the New York Times (2002-11-28) asked Sergey Brin about whether Google ever gets subpoenaed for this information, he had no comment.

5. Google hires spooks:
Matt Cutts, a key Google engineer, used to work for the National Security Agency. Google wants to hire more people with security clearances, so that they can peddle their corporate assets to the spooks in Washington.

6. Google's toolbar is spyware:
With the advanced features enabled, Google's free toolbar for Explorer phones home with every page you surf. Yes, it reads your cookie too, and sends along the last search terms you used in the toolbar. Their privacy policy confesses this, but that's only because Alexa lost a class-action lawsuit when their toolbar did the same thing, and their privacy policy failed to explain this. Worse yet, Google's toolbar updates to new versions quietly, and without asking. This means that if you have the toolbar installed, Google essentially has complete access to your hard disk every time you phone home. Most software vendors, and even Microsoft, ask if you'd like an updated version. But not Google.

7. Google's cache copy is illegal:
Judging from Ninth Circuit precedent on the application of U.S. copyright laws to the Internet, Google's cache copy appears to be illegal. The only way a webmaster can avoid having his site cached on Google is to put a "noarchive" meta in the header of every page on his site. Surfers like the cache, but webmasters don't. Many webmasters have deleted questionable material from their sites, only to discover later that the problem pages live merrily on in Google's cache. The cache copy should be "opt-in" for webmasters, not "opt-out."

8. Google is not your friend:
Young, stupid script kiddies and many bloggers still think Google is "way kool," so by now Google enjoys a 75 percent monopoly for all external referrals to most websites. No webmaster can avoid seeking Google's approval these days, assuming he wants to increase traffic to his site. If he tries to take advantage of some of the known weaknesses in Google's semi-secret algorithms, he may find himself penalized by Google, and his traffic disappears. There are no detailed, published standards issued by Google, and there is no appeal process for penalized sites. Google is completely unaccountable. Most of the time they don't even answer email from webmasters.

9. Google is a privacy time bomb:
With 150 million searches per day, most from outside the U.S., Google amounts to a privacy disaster waiting to happen. Those newly-commissioned data-mining bureaucrats in Washington can only dream about the sort of slick efficiency that Google has already achieved.


magog
- Homepage: http://www.google-watch.org/bigbro.html

Comments

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Please help

18.04.2003 21:48

I am scared now.

I use Google all the time.

Can you please explain me what is Explorer ...ie, with respect to the toolbar?

ram


Google toolbars

18.04.2003 23:06

The google toolbar for Explorer is meant to be particularly bad, keeping a record of where you've been, sending off details, and updating itself without asking or notifying you.
If you have to use google, at least don't use the IE toolbar. (The google toolbar search in Opera is a different beast, the same as using the google site)

mark


The what about Explorer?

19.04.2003 00:45

So this is total bullshit about Google then.
Explorer is the problem.

ram


- Go*gle hires spo*ks

19.04.2003 02:06


from Aotearoa Indy
Interesting
by Komodo 9:23am Sat Apr 19 '03 comment#5925



Some of the top hackers are now hired by big corporates and Gov security sites to protect their online businesses, so no doubt these people will be shared around...

Simple answer, don't allow cookies, install Ad-Aware from  http://www.webattack.com/get/adaware.shtml, kill all that spyware crap and then don't download any more of that type of warez again, and for goodness sake disable javascript.

"Young, stupid script kiddies"
A term I despise, most users of google search functions are more likely uneducated in online security, have cookies/javascript allowed, don't use any form of firewall protection or if so, don't have it configured correctly, and/or your basic home web designers etc.

This amounts to the majority of the e-populace...

km


clarification

19.04.2003 10:12

It's not bullshit about Google, it's just that when you combine Google and Explorer using the Google Toolbar, Google get a whole lot more information about you.
The article still stands, even if you just use the web based Google.

mark


Alternatives to Explorer and Google

19.04.2003 10:38

I reccommend one uses Mozilla instead of MS Explorer or one of it's derivatives

 http://www.mozilla.org

or check out:

 http://www.mozillazine.org

If one does not want to download a copy one can find one on this months '.net' internet mag along together the OpenOffice.org suite (  http://www.openoffice.org ) which one can only download if you have hi speed connection, and is well worth getting. And worth getting mag for in itself.

To fast search all indymedia and some other radical sites one can use:

 http://search.resist.ca/

Also if you do any audio recording and editing for audio reports and interview to upload to IMC then I reccommend Audacity:

 http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

Using these programs help encourage a community of users and programmers that share and work togeather as the code is held in the public commons. And we are free to share, understand and modify it, as long as we don't that those freedoms from some one else. Even if we don't use these freedoms ourselves the fact someone else does or has option to do so benefits us with better, more user beneficial software or file formats.

This is known as copyleft, and it is hoped people contribute to Indymedia in same spirit.

for more on use of this concept for text, audio and video see:

 http://www.creativecommons.org

especially flash presentation at:

 http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/

sbunny
- Homepage: http://www.j12.org/sb/freesoft.htm


M$ white supremacy shit

19.04.2003 15:58

This bullshit about Google has no credence.

I read up as much as I can. All the evidence points to Microsoft being a white pig organisation. Any toolbar or even the use of Internet Explorer is a security risk ie, compromises your privacy.

No metion of jews and zionism here I suppose.

Pure white pig swill.

Microsoft was pardoned by the chief pig Bush because they successfully pointed out how the white supremacy movement is propped up by Microsoft and its shitty software after being found guilty in a even a US court on anti trust charge.

Can you imagine this...a US court finds some one of being untrustworthy!!! How fucked up must the company be!

With Microsoft's Internet Explorer or even the whole operating system continuing to be a black box with the most freedom limiting terms forcibly attached to it, how can you point out unfounded theories by some idiots.

Google is a search engine that logs your searches. I fyou want to explain that ..well and good.
Even if the ex-NSa staff work for Google ...so what? Probably Google paid them better.

In the case of Micrsoft they work with the chief pig downwards.

Everytime we get online not just our searches but every action can be logged and is *possibly* logged in the pig west's central control mechanisms like the NSA.

Microsoft has openly offered to help the US pigs break all its customers' privacy with respect to the content they might have. Disgusting!

To distract from the real issue of Microsoft is disgusting.
please do not post unfounded shit.

ram


Standard Apache behaviour

21.04.2003 14:40

Points 1 to 4 are standard apache logging behaviour - probably pretty standard for IE as well. It's a pretty good bet that most sites collect this information - I have about ten sites where it's collected and automatically erased (after about a week) without me ever looking at it. I wouldn't be suprised if this site collects this info as well. A lot of servers are just set up to do this by default.

It is mildly concerning that a govt that seems to be more concerned with the welfare of corporations than people wants to get their hands on this info... but then again, it's mildly concerning that we have a govt that seems to be more concerned with the welfare of corporations than people in the first place.

Nick


4 nick

21.04.2003 19:29

I take it that you mean serverside logging of data as allowed due to the technical neeeds of the http protocol is what you are highlighting.

But the issue with Microsft's desktop (clietside) conspiracy and the accusation towards Google (I think misdirected if technically correct) is totally different.

ram


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