Well it is obvious you are not there - getting all your info from the corporate media! I am sitting here in London and i can see your version of events is wrong - easy to carry the BBC version harder to get out real info

Actually, every web-site that I looked at in the run up to the G8 was saying that we would not storm the conference. I am not here to win a military victory against a well armed police force. We are here to protest in many ways against the policies of the G8 which lead to death and suffering around the world. We have done that and met inspiring people from every corner of the globe which will spur us all on to continue the struggle for a better world...

ANOTHER WORLD IS POSSIBLE!

First let me also join everyone and condemn the crap from 'realist'.

But I do not care if now everyone lines up against me but I shall speak the truth and nothign but the truth.

8 big pigs had another orgy in Evian and all the other pigs, piglets and crap just did fuckall!!

Did anyone see how passionately the french and us pigs pigfucked each other after the long phony seperation?

pigs! accept that you are pigs and organised to change these pigsties!!!

change yer name arsehole you aint got a clue about shit and if you had brains you'd be dangerous ..
as an alternative why not list all the countries you have visited the last ten years start wth the tourist destinations
and then go onto the more funky places where they don't get holiday makers , then you can explain how come your such an authority on reality .. check out how many countries the U:S has "officially" invaded since 1900 and then read up on all the countries they have carried out subversive activities and undermined elected governemnts ..

'Realist' inhabits a world far distant from ours. Doubt he/she ever went to Genoa or Prague, let alone Evian. Stay in space and away from ours, you fool!

Same pessimism, same arrogances, same style (or lack thereof).

You didn't really think you could fool us by changing your name, could you?

Dumb, dumb, dumb, and dumber still...

STOPPING a summit does NOT require a sucessful military invasion of the summit site. It only requires preventing the capitalists from achieving teh summit goals by ANY means! Sometimes they even stop themselves-like in Seattle where WE started it but THEY finished it by deadlocking over agriculture, GMO's, and drug patents.

If Bu$h and Chiraq cannot agree to put Iraq behind them(and word is they cannot), then the summit will be a VICTORY for us and a DEFEAT for Bu$h's corporate backers, as the U$-French dispute over GMO foods will once again derail the WTO, and France will continue trying to couterweight the US in the international arena.

I'm not saying the French government is a friend(they obviouly are an enemy for their conduct in places from teh Algerian war through yesterday), but rather that they are a rival to Bu$h and stand in his way.

Therefore, all we need to do to "stop" the summit is to have enough of an anit-GMO, andiwar, anti-US presence outside the summit to hold European G8 bosses feet to teh fire, so they know they will face similar protets back home if they compromise with Bu$h. By comparison, storming the summit(while it would be a wonderful military victory and show of power), would only delay it until tehy met again unless these other factors were included.

Consider these two opposing scenarios: In one, a small well-trained affinity group penetrates the compound and hides out, causeing the meetings to adjourn in fear. They meet in another place, and finish their agenda. In the other, a huge, diverse group fights to gain entrance, or just to show their fury, and does NOT get in, but G8 leaders realize that a broad cross-section of their own public is represented. In that scenario, their fear goes way beyond teh summit, and they have to worry about later political consequences if they compromise with the US. This, a STRATEGIC victory results regardless of teh military situation on the ground.

Put is this way-few capitalists considered Genoa a victory, even though they suceeded in killing one of us, injuring hundreds, and terrorizing thousands. The show it led to put them in such a bad spotlight they woulod ahve gladly erased that G8 summit from memory if they could have. They made a stand, and they themselves have to consider it a failure.