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The Iraq beat goes on

jamie | 29.10.2003 14:21

This is an instructive mainstream piece from yahoo. It details most recent attacks on US GI's. Two fatalities today. Bring our troops home now! www.bringthemhomenow.org
This is an instructive mainstream piece from yahoo. It details the most recent attacks on US GI's. Two fatalities today. Bring our troops home now! www.bringthemhomenow.org


The Iraq beat goes on! (english)
jamie 5:50am Wed Oct 29 '03
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This is an instructive mainstream piece from yahoo. It details most recent attacks on US GI's. Two fatalities today. Bring our troops home now! www.bringthemhomenow.org
This is an instructive mainstream piece from yahoo. It details the most recent attacks on US GI's. Two fatalities today. Bring our troops home now! www.bringthemhomenow.org

Attack on U.S. Tank Kills 2 GIs in Iraq
1 hour, 17 minutes ago

By SLOBODAN LEKIC, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Two American soldiers were killed when their Abrams battle tank was damaged by resistance fighters, U.S. officials said Wednesday, as the number of U.S. soldiers killed in combat since major fighting ended topped the wartime total.


AP Photo


Reuters
Slideshow: Iraq





Latest headlines:
· U.S. Postwar Death Toll in Iraq Hits New Milestone
Reuters - 8 minutes ago
· Iraqis Condemn Suicide Attacks, Blame Foreigners
Reuters - 23 minutes ago
· Blair condemns "brutal, wicked" Iraq violence
AFP - 25 minutes ago
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In a separate attack, seven Ukrainian troops were wounded in the first ambush of a multinational unit in the Polish sector south of Baghdad, coalition officials said.


The latest deaths bring to 115 the number of American soldiers killed in combat in Iraq (news - web sites) since President Bush (news - web sites) declared an end to major fighting May 1. Defense Department figures — updated on its Web site Tuesday — show 114 U.S. soldiers died in the active combat phase, which began March 20.


The Abrams tank was disabled when it was struck by a land mine or a roadside bomb Tuesday night during a patrol near Balad, 45 miles north of Baghdad, said Maj. Josslyn Aberle, a spokeswoman for the 4th Infantry Division. A third crewman was evacuated to a U.S. hospital in Germany, she said.


It was believed to be the first M1 Abrams main battle tank destroyed since the end of major combat May 1. During the active combat phase, several of the 68-ton vehicles — the mainstay of the U.S. Army's armored forces — were disabled in combat.


The latest attacks, including a nighttime mortar barrage in Baghdad, followed a day of violence in which insurgents targeted American forces and Iraqis who work with the occupation authorities. U.S. officials also announced that Baghdad's Deputy Mayor Faris Abdul Razzaq al-Assam was killed Sunday in a drive-by shooting.


The proliferation of attacks on Iraqis allied with the occupation bodes ill for attempts by the U.S.-led authorities to persuade more Iraqis to join in administering the country and play a greater role in providing security. Resistance forces have targeted several prominent figures, including Aquila al-Hashimi, a member of the Governing Council, who was fatally shot Sept. 20.


A spokesman for the multinational division at Camp Babylon said the attack on the Ukrainians occurred when two of their armored personnel carriers rolled over land mines near Suwayrah about 40 miles southeast of Baghdad.


After the vehicles were disabled, unidentified gunmen opened fire on the disembarked soldiers, the spokesman said on condition of anonymity.


About 1,650 Ukrainians are serving in the Polish-led stabilization force patrolling central and southern Iraq.


In Baghdad, half a dozen mortar rounds exploded late Tuesday in an upscale Jadriya neighborhood across the Tigris River from the U.S.-led coalition headquarters but caused no damage or casualties, the U.S. military said Wednesday.


One landed in a field close to a palace once occupied by one of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s daughters, now a headquarters for the U.S. civil-military affairs command. Another struck Baghdad University's College of Physical Education, damaging the wall of an enclosed volleyball court. There were no casualties in the shelling.


In Tikrit, Saddam's hometown, insurgents fired late Tuesday on the south gate at the main U.S. military base there. At least one American soldier from the 4th Infantry Division was wounded, witnesses said. A patrol was sent out to search for the assailants, who fled after firing on the troops from a nearby rooftop.


And a U.S. military convoy was attacked Tuesday night by small arms fire in the northern city of Mosul, the military said. There were no casualties.


Rockets were fired Tuesday night at a U.S. military compound in the oil center of Kirkuk, according to Saleh Sabah, a member of the Iraqi National Accord which has offices near the compound.


Sabah said the U.S. troops returned fire with mortars and blocked all roads leading to their garrison.


In Fallujah, a flashpoint Sunni Muslim city 40 miles west of Baghdad, a car exploded Tuesday afternoon on a major street, killing at least four people. The explosion occurred about 330 feet from a police station and 100 feet from a school, but the target was unclear.


jamie

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russian reports from tuesday 28 October

29.10.2003 15:13

russian news reported 5 explosions on Monday 27 October in baghdad as a result of which at least 42 people died and 240 injured.
russian news reported 2 explosions yesterday (Tuesday 28 October) in baghdad for the moment no news of dead/injured.
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Sian Glaessner


Less rhetoric, more thought

29.10.2003 17:16

Do you really think all troops should be brought home immediately? Don't get me wrong, I'm fully aware of the immorality and illegality of the war, but I'm not so sure advocating an immediate withdrawal of all troops is the way forward. While some Iraqis are opposed to any foreign presence, it seems many want them to stay temporarily in order to provide security, aid restoration etc. The power vacuum of simply pulling out and leaving Iraqis to deal with the destruction we've caused, is hardly looking out for their interests. The 'Bring our boys home now' argument may appeal to certain segments of the British population but it's slightly opportunistic to abandon the Iraqis now. I think there needs to be less time spent on coming up with catchy slogans, and more focus on common sense solutions. No idea is perfect. Internationalising the troops though a switch to the UN ignores the fact that the UN is hardly popular in Iraq (sanctions)but a fairer UN control of the move towards democracy would be slightly better than allowing the US to manipulate the situation to serve their obvious interests. I think a balance has to be found between the current escalation towards a more popular resistance, and a bail out, the solution involving perhaps a change in the type of presence - making it less intrusive in civilian areas, while offering security to an increased number of workers more suited to reconstruction planning, and humanitarian work. Demanding quicker elections is fine, but I think a gradual more transitional end to the occupation is more realistic with sustained pressure on our governments to limit their self serving influence in Iraq.

A


GET OUT

29.10.2003 18:30

IN reply to A

I am an Iraqi and I want all foreign occupation troops OUT OF MY COUNTRY. We are not children, we can run our country ourselves and do not need the West or anyone else telling us how to live. Occupation troops have done nothing for the 7 months they have been there, and its obvious they just are securing the oil fields for Israel, stealing Iraqs wealth. Zionists have been buying huge tracts of our land, similar to what they were doing in Palestine in 1930's. It is OUR COUNTRY, not the US's, Britains or Israels. 10 years of sanctions murdered over a million iraqis, and now you're concerned about the welfare of Iraqis?

dony


In response to dony....

29.10.2003 19:02

I respect your opinion but surely you don't believe that every fellow Iraqi necessarily agrees with you? I think it's more realistic to accept there's a spectrum of opinion. I've seen numerous reports (more often that not from anti-war media sources) that quote Iraqis as rightly criticising the US for many things but saying that they need the troops to stay (very temporarily) to help rebuild and offer security (some have asked for aid guarding mosques for instance). It's difficult to judge what the majority opinion is but I do feel that to immediately withdraw ALL troops without a backup plan would be disasterous. Primarily because of the armed struggle for power that could possibly follow, between equally repressive fractions who don't represent the Iraqi people.
I'm not arguing for the occupiers to stay for a long time, nor for them to get the military bases and a puppet regime which is what the war was fought for. I just think more effort should be given to proposing viable alternatives. How do you think the aid (which we owe Iraq for destroying it) should be administered? Who should draw up a constitution or plan and organise elections? Who should provide security? etc It's all very well simply saying the Iraqi people, and I'd agree, but WHICH groups, and who is going to organise these groups? etc I'm only calling for more serious thought to be given to these issues, to better fight the US imperialism with a rational and humanitarian stance.

By the way, I never supported the sanctions nor the war, so direct your criticism elsewhere.

I am an Iraqi and I want all foreign occupation troops OUT OF MY COUNTRY. We are not children, we can run our country ourselves and do not need the West or anyone else telling us how to live. Occupation troops have done nothing for the 7 months they have been there, and its obvious they just are securing the oil fields for Israel, stealing Iraqs wealth. Zionists have been buying huge tracts of our land, similar to what they were doing in Palestine in 1930's. It is OUR COUNTRY, not the US's, Britains or Israels. 10 years of sanctions murdered over a million iraqis, and now you're concerned about the welfare of Iraqis?

A


uninformed

30.10.2003 13:33

Yeah, how irritating when you've made the effort to skim through so many websites and some ignorant Iraqi thinks they know better just because they live there!

;-)


To the nameless one.....

30.10.2003 17:20

Are you deliberately being stupid or did you not even bother to read what I actually said?
I've never claimed to know better than anyone, I just described the impression I had got, and called for RATIONAL discussion of specific anti-occupation ideas, something you're clearly not capable of. I didn't know whether dony lives in Iraq or not, in a way it's irrelevent, as an Iraqi their view is obviously more important regarding their own country than mine, however it's foolish to instantly assume without question that it represents EVERY Iraqi just because it fits your ideology.


A


Not so nameless

31.10.2003 16:47

How brave of you not to shroud yourself in anonymity, "A".

Ha ha ha.

James James Morrison Morrison Wetherby George Dupree


Meaningless flak.....

01.11.2003 15:02

....says more about the sender than the receiver. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems some people are too concerned with diversion tactics.

Thankfully not everyone. After posting my original comment the other day calling for some reasoning and planning from the anti-occupation camp of which I basically agree with, I've since seen two articles from writers who have clearly noticed the same thing. Here are some extracts illustrating what I was trying to get across:

"Just the other day, a friend challenged me to stop ducking the subject. He claimed that in my dispatches I was taking the easy way out. And I think maybe he was right. It's time for us to do our best not just to put withdrawal on the American agenda as a slogan but to give it some thought and content."

The Time of Withdrawal
by Tom Engelhardt
 http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1031-04.htm

"It's no good thinking, as some on the left have, that there could be merit in the US (especially) getting a bloody nose in Iraq. We have to think about who is administering the punch. Sometimes it will be young patriots, new to combat, who have signed up for armed resistance against a foreign occupier. This kind of indigenous insurgency is said to be growing, gaining grass roots support and, with it, the legitimacy of a popular movement.

But not all of Iraq's resistance will fit this romantic, maquis image. Some will be Ba'athist holdouts, Saddamites who once served as henchmen to a murderous dictator. No progressive should want to see these villains land a blow on British or American forces. Others, their numbers not yet established, will be Islamists, some from abroad, who are graduates of the al-Qaida school of morality. People who can murder UN or Red Cross workers do not deserve to be viewed as warriors in a heroic anti- imperialist struggle. No progressive should derive any satisfaction from their operations, even if their ultimate target is an occupation we opposed from the start.

Instead we have to look at the likely consequences of this resistance. Strikes such as Monday's against the Red Cross will only deter other non-governmental agencies from coming to Iraq, and the only people to suffer from that will be Iraqis - denied the medical care or food aid they so badly need. It's possible that success for the guerrillas will bring the end of the occupation and a moment of national liberation - but it could just as easily bring violent chaos, civil war, a return to Saddam-style dictatorship or a fundamentalist theocracy. Surely none of these is an outcome peace campaigners would wish on the Iraqis.

Those who opposed the war need to start thinking ahead. Some activists are already doing just that, debating what needs to happen next. The instinctive slogan is to call for an immediate US and British withdrawal: Iraq for the Iraqis, now! That sounds appealing - not least to the twitchy wing of the Republican party, which has seen the latest polls and dreads the prospect of Bush going into next year's election as the body-bag candidate, the president who led US troops to their deaths in a Vietnam-style quagmire (a word which has now entered the US conversation, via Republican senator and Vietnam vet John McCain).

But it is no position for the anti-war camp. All it would mean is permission for London and Washington to have trashed Iraq - and then leave Iraqis to clear up the mess."

Jonathan Freedland
Wednesday October 29, 2003
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1073026,00.html


(Oh and by the way, the namelessness observation wasn't even intended as criticism, and if you must know, A is an easy initial of Andrew)






A


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