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The White Anti-Racist is an Oxymoron: An Open Letter to "White Anti-Racists"

Tamara Nopper | 26.02.2004 20:22 | Anti-racism | Repression

I received an annoying e-mail about white people and their struggle to do anti-racist work. I keep reading and hearing white people talk about their struggle to do anti-racist organizing, and frankly it gets on my nerves. So I am writing this open letter to white people who engage in any activist work that involves or affects non-whites.

The White Anti-Racist is an Oxymoron: An Open Letter to "White Anti-Racists"
By Tamara K. Nopper

I received an annoying e-mail about white people and their struggle to do anti-racist work. I keep reading and hearing white people talk about their struggle to do anti-racist organizing, and frankly it gets on my nerves. So I am writing this open letter to white people who engage in any activist work that involves or affects non-whites. Given that the US social structure is founded on white supremacy, and that there is a global order in which white supremacy and European domination are at large, I would challenge any white person to figure out what movement or action they can get involved in that will not involve or affect non-white people.

That said, I want to begin with what has become a realization for me through the help of different politically conscious friends. There is NO SUCH THING AS A WHITE ANTI-RACIST. The term itself, "white anti-racist" is an oxymoron. In the following, I will explain why. Then, I will begin to detail how this impacts non-white people in organizing work specifically, along with how it affects non-white people generally.

First, one must realize that whiteness is a structure of domination. As such, there is nothing redeemable or reformable about whiteness. Intellectuals, scholars and activists, especially those who are non-white, have drawn our attention to this for years. For example, people such as Malcolm X, W.E.B. DuBois, Marcus Garvey, James Baldwin, Toni Morrison, Ida B. Wells, Sojourner Truth, Frederick Douglass, and many, many others who are perhaps less famous, have articulated the relationship between whiteness and domination.

Further, people such as Douglass and DuBois began to outline how whiteness is a social and political construct that emphasizes the domination, authority, and perceived humanity of those who are racialized as white. They, along with many other non-white writers and orators, have pointed to the fact that it was the bodies who were able to be racialized as "white" that were able to be viewed as rational, authoritative, and deserving. Further, and believe me, this is no small thing, white people are viewed as human. What this means is that when white people suffer, as some who are poor/female/queer, they nevertheless are able to have some measure of sympathy for their plight simply because they are white and their marginalization is considered an emergency, crisis or an issue to be concerned about.

Furthermore, even when white people have been oppressed by various dimensions of classism, homophobia and heterosexism, they have been able to opt for what DuBois, in his monograph "Black Reconstruction" brilliantly called "the psychological wage of whiteness." That is, whites that are marginalized could find comfort, even if psychological, in the fact that they were not non-white. They could revel in the fact that they could be taken as white in opposition to non-white groups. The desire for this wage of whiteness was also what drove many white people, albeit marginalized, to engage in organized violence against non-whites.

Of course, legal cases such as the Dred Scott Decision along with many different naturalization cases involving Asian individuals, has helped to encode a state-sanctioned definition of whiteness. But there are other ways in which white people can be racialized as white by the state. They are not stopped while driving as much as non-white people. Their homes and businesses are not raided and searched as much by police officers, INS or License and Inspections (L&I). White people's bodies are not tracked and locked up in prisons, detention centers, juvenile systems, detention halls in classrooms, "special education" classes, etc. White people's bodies are not generally the site of fear, repulsion, violent desire, or hatred.

Now some might point out to me that white people are followed, tracked and harassed by individuals and state agents such as the police. This is true. Some white women get sexually harassed and experience state-sanctioned discrimination. Queer whites are the subject of homophobia, whether by individuals or by the state through laws and the police. Some queer whites are harassed by cops. Activist whites are stopped by police. White people who play rap music and wear gear are stopped by cops. Poor whites can be criminalized, especially by the state around welfare issues. What I want to point out is that, while I do not condone police violence and harassment, there is a way in which white people will not be viewed as inherently criminal or suspect unless they are perceived as doing something that breaks particular norms.

Conversely, other racial groups, particularly Blacks and Native Americans, are considered inherently criminal no matter what they do, what their sexual identity is or what they wear. Further, it has always struck me as interesting that there are white people who will attempt to wear what signifies "Blackness," whether it is dreadlocks (which, in my opinion, should be cut off from every white person's head), "gear," or Black masks at rallies. There is a sick way in which white people want to emulate that which is considered "badass" about a certain existential position of Blackness at the same time they do not want the burden of living as a non-white person. Further, it really strikes me as fucked up the way in which white people will go to rallies and taunt the police with Black masks in order to bring on police pressure. What does it mean when Blackness is strategically used by whites to bring on police violence? Now I know that somewhere there is a dreadlocked, smelly white anarchist who is reading this message and who is angry with me for not understanding the logic of the Black masks and its roots in anarchism. But I would challenge these people to consider how they are reproducing a violence towards Blackness in their attempts to taunt and challenge the police in their efforts.

Now back to my point that white anti-racism is an oxymoron. Whiteness is a social and political construct rooted in white supremacy. White supremacy is a structure and system of beliefs rooted in European and US imperialism in which certain racialized bodies (non-white) are selected for premature negation whether through cultural, physical, psychological genocide, containment or other forms of social death. White supremacy is at the heart of the US social system and civil society. In short, white supremacy is not just a series of practices or privilege, but a larger social structure and system of domination that overly-values and rewards those who are racialized as white. The rest of us are constructed as undeserving to be considered human, although there is significant variation within non-white populations of how our bodies are encoded, treated and (de)valued.

Now, for one to claim whiteness, one also is invested in white supremacy. Whiteness itself is a political term that emerged among European white ethnics in the US. These European ethnics, many of them reviled, chose to cast their lot with whiteness rather than that with those who had been determined as non-white. In short, anyone who claims to be white, even a white anti-racist, is identifying with a history of European imperialism and racism transported and further developed into the US.

However, this does not mean that white people who go around saying dumb things such as "I am not white! I am a human being!" or, "I left whiteness and joined the human race," or my favorite, "I hate white people! They're stupid" are not structurally white. Remember, whiteness is a structure of domination embedded in our social relations, institutions, discourses, and practices. Don't tell me you're not white but then when we go out in the street and the police don't bother you or people don't ask you if you're a prostitute, or if people don't follow you and touch you at will, act like that does not make a difference in our lives. Basically, you can't talk, or merely "unlearn" whiteness, as all of these annoying trainings for white people to "unlearn" racism will have you think.

Rather, white people need to be willing to have their very social position, their very relationship of domination, their very authority, their very being...let go, perhaps even destroyed. I know this might sound scary, but that is really not my concern. I am not interested in making white people, even those so-called good-hearted anti-racist whites, comfortable about their position in struggles that shape my life in ways that it will never shape theirs. I recently finished the biography of John Brown by DuBois. The biography was less of a biography and more of an interpretation by DuBois about the now-legendary white abolitionist. Now while John Brown's practice was problematic in many ways--he still had to be in control and he had fucked-up views that Blacks were still enslaved because they were too "servile" (a white supremacist sentiment)--what I took from Brown's life was that he realized that moral persuasion alone would not solve racial problems. That is, whites cannot talk or just think through whiteness and structures of white supremacy. They must be committed to either picking up arms for other people (and only firing when the people tell them so), dying for other people, or just getting out of the way. In short, they must be willing to do what the people most affected and marginalized by a situation tell them to do.

Now I am sure that right now there are some white people saying that other people cannot understand what is going on, that they do not have the critical analysis to figure stuff out, or that non-white people have fucked up ideas. This is just white supremacist bullshit because it is rooted in the idea that non-white people have not interpreted their experiences and cannot run things themselves. It also assumes that there are not internal conversations within communities--which I do not think white people need to be privy to or participate in--in which people struggle out their own visions for society and how to go about achieving them. In short, this perspective by whites that non-white people cannot be in control of our own destinies is rooted in a paternally-racist approach to non-white people.

Further, it is also rooted in the idea that white people are not racist or do not benefit from racism. Rather, white people at meetings will often discuss how they feel "silenced" by non-whites, or that they are being "put in their place." Let me make one thing clear: it is impossible for a non-white person to put a white person in her place. This is not to say that non-white people cannot have a sexist or homophobic attitude towards a white person. But to say, or even hint at that as a "WHITE" person someone is being put in their place--whoever says this just needs to shut the fuck up because that is some bull. It is impossible for whiteness to be put in one's place, because that is a part of whiteness, the ability to take up space and feel a prerogative to do so.

Further, the idea that white people are being put into their place relies on the neo-conservative view of reverse racism that has characterized the backlash against non-whites, especially Blacks, in the post-civil rights era. So when you say these types of things you are actually helping to reproduce a neo-conservative racial rhetoric which relies on the myth of the "threatened" and "displaced" white person.

Additionally, white activism, especially white anti-racism, is predicated on an economy of gratitude. We are supposed to be grateful that a white person is willing to work with non-white people. We are supposed to be grateful that you actually want to work with us and that you give us your resources. I would like to know why you have those resources and others do not? And don't assume that just because I have to ask you for resources that it does not hurt me, pain me even. Don't assume that when you come into the space, that doesn't bother me. Don't assume that when you talk first, talk the most, and talk the most often, that this doesn't hurt me. Don't assume that when I see you get the attention and accolades and the book deals and the speaking engagements that this does not hurt me (because you profit off of pain). And don't assume that when I see how grateful non-white people are to you for being there, for being a "good white" person that this doesn't hurt me. And don't assume that when I get chastised by non-white people because I think your presence is unnecessary that it does not hurt me. Because all of these things remind me of how powerless non-white people are (albeit differently) in relation to white people. All of these gestures that you do reminds me of how grateful I am supposed to be towards you because you actually (or supposedly) care about what is happening to me. I am a bit resentful of economies of gratitude.

Further, this structure of white supremacy known as white anti-racism also impacts the larger social world because it still makes white people the most valued people. Non-white people are forced to feel dependent and grateful to white people who will actually interact with us. We are made to feel that we are inferior, incapable, that we really do need white people. And the sad thing is, that given all of the resources that whiteness has and that white people get and control, there is an element of material truth in all of this, I am afraid. But white people need to think of how their activism reproduces the actual structure of white supremacy some--not all whites activists--profess to be about. This structure of white supremacy is not just in an activist space, it actually touches upon and impinges on the lives of non-white people who may not be activists (in your sense) or who do not interact with you in activist worlds.

But consider what your presence means in a community that you decide to set up your community garden in, or your bookstore in, or your meeting space in, or have your march in. What does it mean when you decide that you want to be "with" the oppressed and you end up displacing them? Just because you walk around with your dreadlocks, or decide that you will not wear expensive clothes does not mean that your whiteness does not displace people in the spaces you decide to put yourself in. How do you help to bring more forms of authority and control in a neighborhood, whether through increased rent and housing costs, more policing, or just the ways in which your white bodies can make people feel, as a brilliant friend of mine once asked, "squatters in somebody else's project"?

So what does this mean for the future of white anti-racists? This might mean to first, figure out ways in which whiteness needs to die as a social structure and as an identity in which you organize your anti-racist work. What this looks like in practice may not be so clear but I will attempt to give some suggestions here. First, don't call us, we'll call you. If we need your resources, we will contact you. But don't show up, flaunt your power in our faces and then get angry when we resent the fact that you have so many resources we don't and that we are not grateful for this arrangement. And don't get mad because you can't make decisions in the process. Why do you need to? Secondly, stop speaking for us. We can talk for ourselves. Third, stop trying to point out internal contradictions in our communities, we know what they are, we are struggling around them, and I really do not know how white people can be helpful to non-whites to clear these up. Fourth, don't ever say some shit to me about how you feel silenced, marginalized, discriminated against, or put in your place. Period. Finally, start thinking of what it would mean, in terms of actual structured social arrangements, for whiteness and white identity--even the white antiracist kind (because there really is no redeemable or reformed white identity)--to be destroyed.

In conclusion, I want to say to anyone who thinks that this is too academic or abstract, I write as a non-white person, meaning that from my body, my person, I experience white supremacy. I also draw my understanding of white supremacy from non-white people, many engaged in various struggles of activism, but most importantly just to speak out and stay alive. They did not get accolades from many for speaking out but instead experienced constant threats on their lives for just existing and doing the work that they did. Moreover, I want to know when a discussion of whiteness, white supremacy and domination became seen as abstract and not rooted in the everyday concrete reality that we experience?

Tamara Nopper

Comments

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confused

26.02.2004 21:27

as a WELSH MAN in England i have experienced direct racial attack, both verbal and physical.
as an ENGLISH MAN in Scotland i have received verbal threats, including that against my children.
as a GYPSY they call me a NEGRO in Eastern Europe.
as a WHITE MAN i have suffered abuse and assault by Black and Asian RACIST THUGS alike.
fuck off mate, it's my BLOODY war as well.
NO PASARAN

nobody in particular


HaHaHaHaHa

26.02.2004 22:15

If you ever decide to lower yourself to look at Irish, Scottish or Welsh history you will find that many of the techniques used by the English and as now practiced by America to conquer and subjegate the subject native populations of its empire were honed by practicing them on it's neighbouring territories. These tactics were not just military they included the bribing of native leaders, the rape of their womenfolk and multiple and layered applications of misinformation and subterfuge.
Let me make one thing clear: I am not proud to be Scottish. The locations chosen by my parents to copulate and hence procreate provide me with no logical basis for pride on my part. As a natural extension of this the levels of melatonin present in my skin or that of others provide me with no logical basis for assumptions as to behaviour, belief and dress. Dreadlocks on myself would look ridiculous as I have very fine hair. I can understand why people could regard them as being precious to their religious beliefs but to suggest exclusive right to a hairstyle goes beyond arrogance and straight into the ludicrous. Once in power would you form the ministry of silly hairstyles? Presumably I'd have to grow a red scraggy beard and be allowed to wear a "Hey Jimmy" hat. What a wonderful cultural heritage I'd have to call my own if you got your way.
Get your head out of your arse.

Douglas G A Murray
mail e-mail: hairyscotsman2@yahoo.com
- Homepage: http://www.hard-news.co.uk


What a heap o shite

26.02.2004 23:19

Is this serious? Fuck me, it's a racist's wet dream. Forgive me my white skin but on a Scottish housing scheme where most everyone is white but poverty, crime, marginalisation and police violence flourish, this is kind of funny. Just goes to prove that you shouldn't judge people on the colour of their skin, there are pompous pseudo-intellectual wankers of every colour...
No Pasaran

Milk bottle


Dear Tamara

26.02.2004 23:58

Dear Tamara

When my grandmother was 13 she saw people she knew being dragged through the streets whilst roped to a horse and cart by the black and tanners(members of the english army).

For many years my Grandparents,aunts and uncles were denied decent housing because they were Irish.The result of this was that my mother and aunts were nearly taken into care.One christmas eve my uncle who had caught measles from my aunts(this was when two adults and five children were living in one room)developed meningitis and died.

Against the odds my mother managed to pass her eleven plus and go to a grammar school.Whenever she spoke with an Irish accent she was given the cane.

On a personal level I know to keep my head down and pretend not to be half Irish when bombs go off to avoid verbal comments and physical harrasment.

I know that there are some phoneys out there being anti-racist to be seen to be doing "the right thing",i'm not one of them

Claire the Librarian

Claire the Librarian


Poor Tamara

27.02.2004 02:49

tamara says :
"a realization for me through the help of different politically conscious friends."

This I think is the key to this incredible arrogant, pretentious and (above all) racist rubbish.

It seems she(he?) is regurgitating the thoughts of people she admires, or thinks clever.

Ah the seductive attractiveness of hero-worship and pseudo-intellectualism !

panther


Tell it how is it Tamara

27.02.2004 07:52

Nice one Sista T - keeping it real and telling it how it is.

All those above should now go on to read - With Allies Like These, You Don’t Need Enemies: Michael Moore and the Racism of the White Left - by Ewuare Osayande.

On November 12, 2003 addressed how Academy Award winner Michael Moore’s questioning of political prisoner Mumia Abu-Jamal’s innocence is typical of the racism and chauvinism of the white Left. Osayande went on to give a candid indictment of the how the white Left both nationally and here in Philadelphia is in the words of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., “the great stumbling block in the Black community’s stride toward freedom.” A speech that promises to be remembered as keeping with the best of Philadelphia’s Black abolitionist tradition.

The speech is posted at:  http://www.illegalvoices.org/apoc/knowledge/articles/ideas/allies.html



Sista SoulJa


What the fuck are you talking about?

27.02.2004 08:41

Dear Tamara
That has to be the biggest load of Racist Bullshit i've read in all my life.

Founded on white supremacy? No its founded on Divide and rule, the basic concept of imperialism. No Bourgeois imperialist ever tries to face all there enemies at once as they know they would lose. Instead they ai to set onwe group against another.
In the US for example they keep poor ethnic communities seperate, white, laino, black all seperate. Racism is polaying to capitalisms tune in dividing the proletariat.

If your stupid enough to think there are no poor white people in the US and UK then you really need to read a fucking book, or why not try actually living outside the library office you seem to have locked yourself in. Last time I walked apst the nearest red light district, most of those prostitutes were white...oh i'm sue they were just loaded wrren't they. I could go on and on about how much cack your ideas are but i can't be bothered.

Its enough to say that if anybody offered your point pof view where i work, they'd probably get a punch in the face for being a racist middle class snivelling little fuckwit.

No doubt we can go to Russia and look at how ''white '' people are so rich. Perhaps it hasn't occuurred to you but who the fuck are ''white'' people anyway. Ok i've got a mixed race background, and if someone asks me on teh census i say white just because its easier for ID purposes, but what teh fuck, what is white what is an ethnic minority, those are just terms made up by the bourgeoisie to keep su down and identify us.

I'm froma mixed race background, both my parents were relatively poor. Quite honestly theres noone i hate more tahn racists, and racial purists like yourself, you are the ignorant wankers who beat me up in school, you are the ignorant wankers who make racists jokes behind my back, you are the ignorant wankers who cripple the proletariat with your filthy racist lies.

Please don't ever post your racist claptrap on here ever again you capitalist piece of shit.

love
me

And The Union Makes us Strong


Want some vinegar to go with that massive fucking chip on your shoulder?

27.02.2004 10:40

White people can't be anti-racist? Well that's just racist bollocks for a start. What next? Are you going to tell us that only white people can be racist?

You know why I have the resources and opportunities I have? Because I have intelligence, because I work hard to be good at what I do and because I live in a privileged country. It's got nothing to do with how much melanin I have in my skin. And that can be clearly seen because there are other people of all sorts of skin colour who also have intelligence, work hard and happen to live in Britain and who are doing just as well or better than me.

You don't want any white 'activists' doing anything to help race relations? And that seems reasonable and logical to you does it? So none of the people involved in bringing in any equality legislation should have bothered? And you don't think you should be grateful to anyone who helps you out? Or just not to any white people who help you out? Sorry to have to break this tiny bit of sense to you, but you can't really have an integrated multi cultural society if you insist that only some of the people are allowed to be involved or work towards it. Same goes whether it's you spouting that tripe or the BNP spouting the same thing.

I'm white. It's a difference in a couple of genes out of tens of thousands of genes. It's nothing to be proud of and it's nothing to be ashamed of. It just IS. Deal with it. Differences are cultural, not racial.

Personally I'm glad we have such a mix in our society. Sorry if it annoys you but I intend to continue treating people based on their personality and actions, regardless of their skin colour, religion, taste in food/clothes etc. I also intend to continue speaking out against racism if I see it rather than just saying nothing. I intend to keep my point of view that the tiny genetic differences (hardly anything at all) between the different people on our planet is the stupidest reason to discriminate between them. Sure, me doing that might annoy you, but I'm glad it does because I quite like annoying stupid people - whatever colour they are.

No doubt all the replies to the tripe you've posted will get twisted in your feeble mind to equal more racism. I'd be willing to bet that most of the 'racism and oppression' you encounter is actually people disliking you because of your personality, not because of your skin colour.

Afinkawan


Ms Nopper:

27.02.2004 12:13

I'd rather be an oxymoron than a moron.

Mike Giggler, via email


Tamara Kil ja Kim Nopper of Temple Uni, Philadelphia

27.02.2004 12:56

Here's another article by Tamara Kil ja Kim Nopper, a (former?) academic at Temple Univeristy in Philadelphia.

 http://www.nathanielturner.com/boughtcoloredkids.htm

'...my white parents “saved” me from sleeping on a concrete bed in the South Korean orphanage I was housed at until I came to the US when I was three and a half years old. This transaction gave me the “opportunity” to live a middle-class upbringing and to have an entry into the lives of white people.

Of course, I was never really a full member of the household. That is, it was clear that my presence in the house was something to be both ignored and monitored. On many times my family would say stuff to me like, “I love you. I don’t see you as Korean. I see you as my daughter.” '

Yeah against whiteness, but also against blackness, race, and identity.

googleplex


scary stuff

27.02.2004 13:40

From the above link:
Kil Ja is currently working on working on a research project that examines the role of global racial politics in shaping the disproportionate presence of Korean immigrant business owners in Black neighborhoods in the US

Scary stuff. Seems like her adoptive parents were assholes. Personally I make it a policy of calling an asshole an asshole regardless of their race.

Douglas G A Murray
mail e-mail: hairyscotsman2@yahoo.com
- Homepage: http://www.hard-news.co.uk


Some questions for Tamara

27.02.2004 20:47

Do you see all white people as inherently bad? Do you believe that white people are real people in the same way that you are a real person? Do you feel any empathy for white people who have been exploited and marginalised by others?

Somebody


Some of my best friends are white.

28.02.2004 00:27

Wouldn't want to live next door to one though.

tamara


tendentious, and insulting

28.02.2004 16:47

this author is typical of the way in which the oppressed and exploited are divided from each other, in direct contradiction to the classic advice given by marx; "working men of all countries, unite !"
our author clearly has a very shaky (mis) understanding of what racialism actually is; can she give me an example of racialism in history which, ultimately, does not derive from some economic motivation ? american slavery, south african aparthied, the british empire, and any instance you care to name all created racialism in order to exploit, and to keep the exploited divided.
of course, theres room for improvemant in all sections of the socialist movement in their analysis and practices. but in condemning racialism, please ensure you know what it is, and avoid falling into the same trap.

your friend


More questions

29.02.2004 09:21

Are all white people as bad as each other? Why wouldn't you want to "live next door to one"? What are your feelings about Jewish people?

Still somebody


DIe!

03.03.2004 03:50

Where have you gone tamara, too busy sending hate mail to mixed race couples?

You fucking racist piece of shit


nobody


white mans comments

12.04.2004 06:48

i am a white man who lives in the united states. i am not gay, nor am i extremely poor. There is not a single way in which i am oppressed. I am an artist, especially with theatre and i am involved with the Conciliation Project. This is a non profit organization who's mission statement is "to promote, through active and challenging dramatic work, open and honest dialogue about racism in america to repair its damaging legacy. before i say anymore, please know that my words do not reflect the views of the conciliation project. now. working in this project i have had to play some roles who most "good white people" would judge as bad and racist. i was very much one of those self proclaimed good white people before i got involved with The Conciliation Project(TCP). One thing that i love about tcp is that we are not about anything accept promoting open and honest dialogue.
I enjoyed your article because it was from the heart, and i think its messed up how so many white people have come onto this message board discrediting what you have written. I want to say that i would say that i am a recovering racist. i still have racism in me that runs very deep although i talk about it nearly everyday. Dr. Beverly Tatum-Daniel says that "racism is a system of advantadge based on race" and i personally ascribe to this definition. Through this definition i agknowledge that regardless of what i do, being white makes me a racist. Regardless of whether i want it, I get the privilege dont i? It pisses me off and it does make me feel guilty that my people have done so many horrible things through racism, but i can use that power they have given me to dismantle it if thats what i want to do. I believe humility is a really good rule to stick with in this work. When i start to believe i am a "good white person" or say some real insane shit like "i dont see color" (which i hear from my people all the time) i start to perpetuate my arrogant ignorance and privilege when im trying to destruct it. I work on myself more than anyone else, because racism is ingrained in me and before i try to work on anyone else i need to keep my eyes on me and check myself.
I have so much to say on this issue and i personally just hope someone reads this and is inspired to open their eyes to the racism that exists in our lives everyday, and if that isnt enough open their ears a little to people of color when they speak about racism and dont discredit their experiences(an act of privilege), just listen. if you dont agree its okay but it doesnt hurt to listen. lastly i have a question for the white people who so passionately responded - why is it that you still need to convince people of color that you are not a racist? if you really werent would you need to leave an angry message with swear words and evidence of the "oppresion" you face? just wondering
peace

ps-i dont have dreadlocks and im not an activist. just a white man who wants the world to be a harmonious and peaceful place for everyone, because right now it is definitely not.
We have a long way to go and us white people saying that we arent racists or that we are colorblind does not make racism go away.

nikolas
mail e-mail: nikolaswakefield@hotmail.com


whit people are so patheic

19.01.2005 19:41

fuck all u white mutherfuckers. All of y'all are gonna burn in hell, you ignorant, selfish sons of bitches. Non of you white fuckers should even talk about poverty in "third world" countires coz y'all cozed that shit and if u were smart enuff u would study history to know that. To hear u say go back to where u came from, makes me laugh. you brought us here in the first place....as slaves. we built all this shit, so we have every right to be here (be it the US or Europe) all this shit belongs to us our great grand parents suffered so that u fat white motherfuckers could be comfortable so we have every right to be wherever we choose. Damn i wish u could smell the shit that comes out of your mouths and as for diseases such as AIDS. y'all motherfuckers put that shit upon us. we all know about the whole "AIDS CONSPIRACY" white people are so threatned of africans rising. You shady ass, I'm not satisfied with the colour of my skin so i'm gonna go to the solarium to get at tan so i can look black even though i hate black people,pale rapists see us as a threat coz y'all know that we were the creators of civilazation. Y'all just came and stole evrything. you owe us everything.

black supremist


why?

17.08.2005 22:13

i dont think you can say that they is no such thing as a white anti-racist as in many schools where i live white is the minority. so just because i try to help others not just non white that offends you?

kristie


fair enough, but does it change anything?

22.10.2006 01:48

yar...I just wrote a big long post, then changed my mind. but I do wanna say this: your claim that white people as anti-racists is an oxymoron may be well founded, given the present state of things (not mention the past state of things!), but it doesn't seem particularly useful. I definitely think all white people (probably all people, regardless of race or ethnicity) have some degree of internalized racism, and are therefore all racist, to some degree. I dont' think there are a lot of unracist white people, but that's different than anti-racist. white people can confront their own racisms and challenge the system without being douchebags - ie. "I left whiteness and joined the human race", "I don't see colour" etc etc. I'm not talking about being deluded, just about having the will to work on your own shit, and change the power structure. and I don't mean fighting a battle that isn't ours to fight either. what I mean is that any oppressed minority can fight till the cows come home, but unless the plan is to violently overthrow then oppress the opressor, then there's gonna be a need for co-operation on the part of the oppressor. so the sentiment that the oppressor, in this case white people, is unable to change/co-operate/work toward something better - sounds pretty self-defeating. the message seems to be "you guys just go on being jerks - we don't need your help". which is fine if you're talking about a group reclaiming its culture, or empowering itself. but if you're talking about an entire system of racist domination, the bad guys are gonna have to change too. and I'm not suggesting that black people are responsible for encouraging white people to change, but it seems that actively blocking change, and declaring it's neither possible OR desirable, is kinda self defeating...

hmm. I just wrote a whole new long ramble. so much for just summarizing my first one.

lou


Tamara the harcore racist - move to Rwanda

03.10.2009 02:27

That was the most ignorant, racist collection of words I have ever seen. Thanks for proving racism is simply a function of the dysfunctional, and anyone can be racist against anyone. The ego is the devil of the mind. Why don't you move to Rwanda, the Congo, Sudan, for a good taste of democracy. Try voting there. Or doing anything you take for granted in the west. Thank god you didnt waste paper on that self riteous rant of ignorance.

Racist Tamara
mail e-mail: movetorwanda@yahoo.com


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