i salute katherine Dun rather than short. dun is the one who risk imprisonment, lost her job and stood up aginst the war. she attended the anti war marches and stuck to her princaples.

whereas clare short VOTED for war, advocated for war, and i did not c her on any anti war demos. lets be clear, she's an opportunist. she could have kick blair for six a year ago, why didnt she say this when she was in the cabinet.

clare short is nothing other but a sell out. not to be trusted and only goes against the stream to further her own career.

i rather salute my dog than her
ps she is also a shit teacher

So this is a chance to put that last bit of pressure on Blair to get him out of office but he's using demonization of Short on the left and right to spin this so it doesnt hurt him. Does it matter that Short isnt someone we shouldnt support due to her actions in the past? Right now she has the power to reveal some truths about Blair that could really have some effect and I havnt seen one post yet where the attacks on Blair are not turned into attacks on her. Blair must go and its not going to happen if he can smear anyone who talks out against him. Katherine Dun may have been braver than Short and faced a lot more real risks for her actions but Blair has already figured out the spin on that story and it there wouldnt be talk of spying in the mainstream press if it hadnt been for Short. Short may not be perfect but these attacks on her are doing Blair's work for him (and I woldnt be surprised if some of it isnt actually comming from Blair's spin doctors themselves).

Quite right. Salutations for what Clare Short has done in no way detracts
from the far braver actions of Katherine Dun who clearly deserves greater praise all round, and without whom Short could not have made the impact she has.

Neither does applause for Short's latest actions ignore her history of betrayal.
Indeed, I would imagine she is trying to clear a guilty conscience to some extent.
But credit where credit is due, if we don't encourage this compensatory deed it might discourage her from doing it again.

Clare Short is a blatent self publicist. She's got her autobiography being written soon and she wants to launch herself into TV career. Any publicity is good publicity for such a desperate woman. She supported the war when in cabinet and now she wants to blab everthing to try and recover credibility.

it's all well and good that the mainstream populace
can see if they wish to look..
the way in which a government facilitates a war...

but it is less obvious that the 'whistleblowers'
may well be a ruse in order to gain more secrecy
in terms of future foreign policy...more laws will
and mechanisms will now be put in place...

This is why the PM has a meet the press once a month

just like Bush he can use it to steer press/public opinion
and present himself in a charade of theatricle
political illusion...buttons are being pushed
reactions are being facilitated...

notice how the press are now spinning the line
'why is whistleblowing being allowed to happen?'



and not the facts that are blindingly obvious
that BUSH / BLAIR...were recruiting nations for the
instigation of
the orwellian eternal 'terror war'

read between the lines:

whistlblwers are people being ALLOWED to divulge
information that will eventually be beneficial to
the perpetrators of the crime

do not underestimate the powers of the darkside!

If Britain cant even kick out a Labor party thug who is now to the right of many many Tories, how can the US be expected to get rid of Bush! The world needs Balir out and people like Short should be encouraged by the left not discouraged because they dont fit our exact agenda or have been smeared by Blair's spin doctors.

Clare Short is to be investigated by Scotland Yard for breaking the offical secrets act although it is unlikely she will face criminal charges. People should remember the both Catherine Dunn and Clare Short broke the law when the anounced that the UK secret services had spied on the UN because they broke the offical secrets act. They are both criminals for doing so and people should remember that.

solo - an Official Secrets Act is all very well, but when it protects the interests of a group of people who are motivated to break international law, not to mention basic morals and good sense, in our name but for their own good, we should welcome those who can tell us what might actually be going on.

Having read your other post about this...spying on Kofi Annan does not protect our national security. It protects the security of those doing the spying.