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Democracy in Iraq drowns in blood.

Redkop | 07.04.2004 11:35 | Repression | London

Whilst Chomsky sides with Kerry, democracy in Iraq drowns in blood!

While Chomsky endorces Kerry politics, democracy in Iraq is drowning in a sea of blood.The popular uprising of the working classes against the brutal occupation forces of the US, are being sysematicaly liquidated by the very forces that claim to be liberating them,are now endorced by Noam Chomsky middle class professor and once critic of US foreign policy how on this earth can Chomsky endorse Democratic party policy which is hardly any different than Republican policy,remains behond my imagination.How can this critic of US foreign policy have any credability left?Any ideas?

Redkop

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detail?

07.04.2004 12:48

Hi,

can ya please give some details of where and how chomsky has endorsed kerry?? it strikes me as being almost unbelievable??

cheers,

stu.

stu

unbelievable?

07.04.2004 13:19

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1174017,00.html

Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells

Well there it is folks!

07.04.2004 13:57

Didn't see the article in the guardian , got my info from the World Socialist web site dated 5/4/02,entitled Chomsky in from the cold.This man as completely sold the working class down the drain.Just goes to show the middle classes always stick together in the end.

Redkop

read closely

07.04.2004 14:06

as in countless guardian/observer articles the headline distorts the content almost to the point of lying.

quote from source that could almost be described as support for kerry with the vivid imagination of the not-so-left wing guardian:

"...despite the limited differences both domestically and internationally, there are differences. In a system of immense power, small differences can translate into large outcomes..."

it is weak of chomsky insofar as he gives legitimacy to any politician by judging them on their merits as politicians not on the fact that they simply ARE politicians, but constitute support for kerry it does not...

sprightly

Propaganda

07.04.2004 14:45

Who needs right-wing propaganda when you people are prepared to do all the distortion yourselves? Chomsky doesn't endorse Kerry, he is simply desperate to get rid of Bush and, when asked who he would support he answered "Whoever can get Bush out".

Give the guy a break, he hasn't 'sold out' in the slightest. Realise what he did say (it was quoted in the article for gods sake): In a system of immense power even small differences can translate into large effects.

There is very little difference between Bush and Kerry but Bush is so obscene that those miniscule differences might help to prevent the totalitarian destruction of human rights and freedoms that the 4th Reich are working towards. So what do you do? Hope that by November you can undo all the propaganda of the last millenium and create a popular uprising to overthrow Bush and install true peace, justice and democracy or admit that perhaps the only way to dislodge the bastards is to endorse someone who is only very marginally better?

Prajña

Chomsky on voting

07.04.2004 15:14

Chomsky's always made it pretty clear that, while he is not in favour of the current state of "democracy", he would vote under certain circumstances namely where it would make a practical difference. Clearly he sees this as compatible with his professed anarchist views, and there may be a debate to be had about this, but his position is hardly one that anyone should be surprised about. He continually states how people should be held responsible for the foreseeable consequences of their actions and clearly believes that the foreseeable consequences of voting for Kerry outweigh the foreseeable consequences of not voting (or voting for Bush, Nader or anyone else at present).

I'm sure there's some stuff in the recent Chomsky collection "Understanding Power" which makes his viewpoint a bit clearer.

Senhor Jones

Same policy , different face.

07.04.2004 15:34

Chomsky clearly endorses Kerry,Kerry may appear a smiley clean democrat but under the surface the same policy will out.Why does not Chomsky condemn both candidates with the same vigor that he polemisises about US foreign policy.No it all smacks of blatent hypocracy no matter how you like to dress it up.Another middle class hypocrit shown up in his true colours.

Redkop

q for RedKop

07.04.2004 16:11

RedKop, if you had the option of either seeing capitalism overthrown, or seeing the middle classes exterminated, which would you choose?

dum and dee

07.04.2004 21:53

Kerry is a distant cousin of Bush
Kerry is a Skull and Bones brother as is Bush
The failure of WMD to appear in Iraq signalled Bush's ultimate demise through fatal undermining
Burke's Peerage, who are always right about who gets elected as President, based on their blue-blooded connections, while continuing their geneological research, were last seen putting their money on Kerry
The one thing that stands between the current status and the declaration of martial law in the US is the armed state of a large measure of the US populace
An East Coast Establishment liberal is likely to be more successful in getting Gun Law passed

support the Iraqi workers in their struggle!

08.04.2004 18:36

This is unbelievable! The Iraqi working class (uh wait I mean unemployed looking for jobs following middle class religious extremist demagogues telling them an Islamic state will get them jobs, but whatever)(uh and only a tiny minority, but whatever), under social revolutionary ideology (uh wait I mean fascist, anti-semitic, anti-Western and Islamic fundamentalist ideology, but whatever) is rising up! And the Americans dare to try to prevent it! Shame!!! Bush! Bush! You look like a bush! Bush! Bush! You're stooopid! Bush! Bush! Uhh... you talk like a... mush.... uh... kill Jews.

dhdhgh

UK Indymedia

Democracy in Iraq drowns in blood.

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detail?

unbelievable?

Well there it is folks!

read closely

Propaganda

Chomsky on voting

Same policy , different face.

q for RedKop

dum and dee

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