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48% want EU withdrawal

Henry | 27.05.2004 14:56

A YouGov poll has shown for the first time in 30 years that a vast majority of voters support leaving the European Union.

The poll asked “If there were a referendum now on whether Britain should stay in or get out of the European Union, how would you vote?”. The results were
‘Should stay in’ 39%,
‘Should leave’ 48%
undecided 13%


When asked “How do you intend to vote in the European elections on June 10th?”, the results were
Conservative 27%,
Labour 27%,
Liberal Democrat 16%,
UKIP 10%,
Greens 3%,
SNP/PC 2%,
BNP 4%,
Others 2%,
Respect 0%

Henry

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source url? magazine?

27.05.2004 15:05

I read with interest but i cannot find this poll anywhere. Please give us a URL or magazine ref to look at to find out facts such as the sample size etc... of the research.

Cheers
Fredrico

fredrico
mail e-mail: musteatvegan@yahoo.co.uk


NO ! not now, please

27.05.2004 15:30

look, whatever the merits of the case against the EU, this is NOT the time ! right now, its independence from the USA we should be worrying about. USA style bootcamps, USA style military, just endless hordes of b#### americans over here and all up to no good ! forget the EU and its bendy banana nonsense ! just look at what the USA is pitching us into.

PS i have no intention of whitewashing the USA by making any extra special effort to prove i'm not against individual americans. so what ? theres a whole world out there. americans will have to take their own chances.

EU neutral


Respect

27.05.2004 16:09

Respect 0%?

I know lots of people who are voting Respect! Not a great poll is it?

,.,,


Respect

27.05.2004 16:23

I don't know anyone looking to vote Respect or as it's known in this university,

"The Get George Galloway an income party"

I shall be voting Green and the majority of those I know will be as well

Alan


In answer to Fredrico

27.05.2004 16:30

Fredrico,

If you are looking for the detailed information concerning a You Gov pole I would suggest a starting point would be the You Gov web site !!!

Try here -  http://www.yougov.com

Web user


YouGov and self-selection

27.05.2004 16:32

YouGov is good fun, but it's hardly good statistics. To vote on YouGov, you have to register on the site. This helps keep people from voting twice (though it's hardly bomb-proof in that respect). But it also means that only people who have access to the net and are bothered to register on YouGov will be bothered to vote, and that makes the sample self-selecting, and unrepresentative of the population as a whole. In fact, parties can influence the results of YouGov by urging their activists and supporters to go register and vote there. This would account for the strong showing for the UKIP above. I'll be impressed if they break 3% this time round. In fact I reckon the numbers for the Greens will be more like 10%.

BTW no, I'm not a Green, I'm a communist.

So this is probably an accurate measure of the voting intentions of the small, mainly middle-class section of Britain who are YouGov users, but it's nothing line an accurate assessment of the nation as a whole.

Try comparing YouGov results with polls from Zogby, Gallup, MORI etc on almost any issue, and you'll see how wildly the YouGov results vary from the rest. That's because real polling organisations do thousands of random phone calls to people of all different ages, classes, locations, etc. Anyone who's got a phone can be counted in their random sample, which is a lot more than people who vote on YouGov.

It's a bit of a laugh, like consulting Russell Grant, or the "Socialist Worker" paper, on how an election will go. :-)

Ian


?

27.05.2004 16:40

How left wing people can vote Green ahead of Respect is beyond me, personally, I think it is simply anti-SWPism...

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as i suspected

27.05.2004 17:41

As usual the poll has a tiny sample of only 1797 people.

Also i noted a rather stupid question further down:

At the European Parliamentary elections the UK Independence Party will be campaigning nationwide for Britain to leave the EU and scrap all EU immigration laws. Assuming that the UK Independence Party is the only non-racist party proposing this policy, how would you vote?

And as expected with such a biased question, UKIP came top with 25%.

Lesson from this: Don't believe statistics from companies who are 'commissioned' to do polls.


Also typical is the other report regarding the same issues commissioned by the Daily Telegraph which, as expected, came out with Conservatives on top...

Remember statistics can be used to prove anything.

fredrico
mail e-mail: musteatvegan@yahoo.co.uk


EU is standing for Human Rights and Peace.

27.05.2004 20:26


Left people in Britain should be Pro EU - because if you are not Pro EU then you are supporting Bush - there is not more possible an own BRITISH WAY.
Unfortunately, British media is informing British people like the Empire is existing yet.

An European


YouGov accuracy

28.05.2004 08:20

Sam wrote:
"You Gov has a record in polling for accuracy which is comparable with the likes of the big traditional players."

How do you know? Show us the evidence that persuaded you.

Surrey University analysed web polling (including YouGov), and found a lot of problems with it:
 http://www.soc.surrey.ac.uk/~scs1ps/surrey%20web%20surveys/problems.html

spanner


re how lefties can vote green instead of respect

30.05.2004 11:31

To the person who said 'it's all anti-swp-ism' Maybe, but if so, for a reason. Lyndsey German is advocating voting for her and giving a second vote to Livingstone. The Green party are not doing that on the principle that they are not going to advise anyone to vote for a representative of the party who took us to war in Iraq, whatever the circs. (yes i know that is the London mayoral election, not the European one, but they are on the same day, and LG and GG are putting out joint publicity, so their standpoint has to bethe same.)

Personally, I am not planning to vote for anyone, but if Galloway was anywhere near my vote before, he lost it when his stance on abortion was exposed.

communist


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