Berg beheading: No way, say medical experts


"...according to what both a leading surgical authority and a noted forensic death expert separately told Asia Times Online, the video depicting the decapitation appears to have been staged.

"I certainly would need to be convinced it [the decapitation video] was authentic," Dr John Simpson, executive director for surgical affairs at the Royal Australasian College of Surgeons, said from New Zealand. Echoing Dr Simpson's criticism, when this journalist asked forensic death expert Jon Nordby, PhD and fellow of the American Board of Medicolegal Death Investigators, whether he believed the Berg decapitation video had been "staged", Nordby replied: "Yes, I think that's the best explanation of it."

""The way that they pulled him over, they could have used a dummy at that point," reflected Simpson regarding what the video portrayed. "

 http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/FE22Ak03.html

"Among the many curiosities raised on the web about the fanatical five are:

· They are well-fed, fidgety, and reveal glimpses of white skin.

· Their Arabic is heavily accented (Russian, Jordanian, Egyptian).

· An aside in Russian had been translated as "do it quickly".

· One character wears wears bulky white tennis shoes.

· The man on the far left stands in the familiar "at ease" military posture.

· The men's scarves are worn and tied by people who "haven't a clue", says conspiracy theorist Hector Carreon, like actors in Hollywood movies.

· There is even a voice at the end that seems to ask in English, "How will it be done?" [ http://www.aztlan.net/nick_berg_how_done.htm]

None of this proves a grand conspiracy, but it does raise questions. In the final segment of the tape, Berg is thrown to the ground, but doesn't move. During the decapitation, starting at the front of the throat, there is little sign of blood. The scream is wildly out of sync, sounds female, and is obviously dubbed."

 http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/05/28/1085641717320.html

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... its just that, that is exactly what it is - an opinion.

It maybe that [your] opinion is that to question the providence of this video is in itself an indication of an unbalance mind, but it is unusual, to say the least, for an unbalanced mind to present evidence and reliable sources for such.

What do you present? An hysterical opinion of your own, based on the belief system that anyone outside of the closely guarded and vetted rarified media club that dares to offer differing interpretations on the issues of the day, is in fact offering up a conspiracy theory? Forgetting the literal meaning of the word 'conspiracy' (it seems out of place somehow to actually use a word for what it means!) your point rests on the notion that to beleive or question anything outside of that which we are ment to passivly recieve, is to be mentally unhinged.

Well here is another outrageous conspiracy theory for you to shout down:

... you are a plant. A hoax. You are in the employment of the security services and your job here is to disrupt by any means necessary, the free flow of ideas information and facts. You use several names, whether it be jamie, sceptic, bullshit buster or whatever.

Perhaps your interest is so little stimulated, or that your intelligence can't quite grasp the effect of your actions - perhaps you don't care a toss and do it anyway - but your contributions actually invite the opposite reaction to that which (it seems) you desire. This is good. I request that you continue to [non]contribute silly little rebutals like this - perhaps you could be more scathing, or diverge more wildly from the known and deducable facts, the odd 'if you don't like it here, go live in Russia/Iran/etc etc would be welcome also - for they have a positive outcome:

... people become motivated to investigate for themselves.

And when they do, guess what? They will be questioning even more.

... my last post - they deleted the comment I was repling to and then removed this thread to the 'dungeons' as it were.

Depressing.

And familiar.

Still 'if you want a free speech site, go an live in russia or something' rant ...

The war on Terra and its battles are largely defined by the mass media, anything that strays to far from these imposed concepts is fighting from the backfoot from the start ...

.. and when you get 'alternative' sites dissapearing at a regular rate, plugs being pulled, quite words had with those timid enough to be moved, sponsors being lent on etc etc ...

... we could do without do-gooders, the politically correct and the politically inept deciding for us what we can see ...

... still we have the choice to go elsewhere don't we ...