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"Leftists" and Radicals supporting Muslims and Islam need a reality-check

Karl Pentel | 24.08.2004 01:47 | Analysis

The many "Leftists" who support any claims from "Asylum Seekers" and local Muslim Islamists in many Western countries, MUST realize that Islamists’ goals are TOTALLY opposite to their own, and that uncritical naive "tolerance" MUST become responsible mature "intolerance".

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The many "Leftists" who supported any claims from "Asylum Seekers" and local Muslim Islamists in Western countries, will find that reality soon will shake them up.

They MUST realize that the Muslim Islamists’ goals are TOTALLY opposite to their own, and that uncritical naive"tolerance" must eventually force us over to a more responsible "intolerance".

The days of the joint demonstrations of the Muslim Islamists hand-in-hand with Australian Trade Unionists, Communists, Socialists, Greens, Gays and Migrant radicals in the streets of Melbourne or in Sydney must become history.

No matter how multiculturalisms may tie themselves in knots over the issue, Muslim Islam and tolerant human social progress are irrevocably incompatible.

There are too many Muslim issues with modern feminists ideals and its exclusion of women in general.

Polygamy, which is illegal in Australia, is quite commonly tolerated, practiced, subsidized in a number of countries, even in France. Then there is the practice of genital mutilation of girls.

Maybe not an official Muslim practice, but many prominent Imams and Mullahs that support female genital mutilation. Official or not, you will not spot prominent Imams or Mullahs holding the Koran and condemning the practices in loud Arabic under the roof of a mosque!

Finally there is the general (and theologically correct) Muslim Koranic denial of the most basic human rights to women. Put polygamy, genital mutilation, anti-abortion and grotesque domestic violence practises, honour killings and the burqa-body-sack together and Muslim Islam must drive sincere feminists frantic with rage.

It is also a combination that makes all modern women ( and all decent men for that matter) question the wisdom of accepting Muslim Islam as just another "religion" to be respected and tolerated in our midst.

Why must we tolerate authoritarian ideologies opposed to democracy and liberalism just because they manage to pass themselves off as another fashionable "religion"?

How relevant would Al Quida and other radical Islamists Terrorists be today without the quiet support from millions of "Moderate Muslims" living inside the Western world?

Just a handful Nazis were convicted after WW2 so why not tolerate, even embrace individual Nazis, Fascists, Khmer Rouge etc. as long as they manage to pass themselves off as a "Moderate Nazis and Fascists", "Moderate Khmer Rouge" Moderate Muslims etc.", or must we reject then all as being too risky for a healthy and sane future?

This is a clear case of "tolerance" gone bonkers and becoming intolerable, and it is a double one.

On the one hand, Muslims in Christian Countries (like Australia) claim that, in the name of Christian "tolerance" and Australian "multiculturalism," they MUST have a right to live by their own Sharia-law which is deadly intolerant (to non-Muslims), preaches medieval Arabic law and morals and declare that Muslims have a total cultural superiority over all other people ie. us!

On the other hand, the Left of politics, (of which feminism in Europe and in Australia is one of the strongest pillars) believes in removing religious doctrines, promote indiscriminate equality between sexes including gays, bisexuals, etc.

Feminist and all thinking constituencies will soon scream out and prove that they are still more numerous at the ballot box than those immigrant Muslims who refuses or cannot adapt to our ways.

It remains a much of a mystery why modern educated Westeners are still sitting on their hands still too afraid to stand up for the hard-won privileges we now take for granted!

OK, Let's start by becomming aware of the brutal realities we are confronted by as increasing numbers of Muslim migrants unpacks their often bizarre luggage brought here with them!

Karl Pentel
- e-mail: pentelkarl@hotmail.com

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  1. This shite combines Islamophobia with Homophobia! Ironic? — Barry Kade
  2. what a load of codswollop — stephen martin
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