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Nazis and Zionists

The Heretic | 13.03.2005 05:53 | Analysis

‘Anti-Semitism is nothing but the antagonistic attitude produced in the non-Jew by the Jewish group. The Jewish group has thrived on oppression and on the antagonism it has forever met in the world.’ Albert Einstein, Collier's Magazine, November 26, 1938







At the 1958 World Jewish Conference in Geneva, Dr. Nahum Goldman, President of the World Zionist Organization, warned Jews that "a current decline of overt anti-Semitism might constitute a new danger to Jewish survival... The disappearance of anti-Semitism has had a very negative effect on our internal life."

Goldman was not the first Jew to recognize the common ground between Zionists and anti-Semites. In fact, ever since Zionism was invented by a Jewish journalist in the late nineteenth century, Zionist-inclined Jewish leaders have actually cooperated with anti-Semites, including Hitler's Nazis, in the prevention of Jewish assimilation.

The founder of Zionism, Theodor Herzl, himself entered into negotiations with the anti-Semitic Tsarist Minister of the Interior Plehve, who promised the Tsarist Government's "moral and material assistance" to the Zionist movement.

In 1937 the anti-Semitic Polish government sent the Michael Lepecki expedition to Madagascar, accompanied by Jewish community representatives, to study the possibility of sending Poland's entire Jewish population there, in order to set up a Zionist state on the island.

The possibility of setting up a Zionist state on Madagascar (which was in fact first suggested by Herzl himself) also received consideration from the Nazi government. In 1938, Hitler agreed to send the President of the Reichsbank, Dr. Hjalmar Schacht, to London for discussions with Jewish representatives Lord Bearsted and a Mr. Rublee of New York. The plan failed only due to intransigence on the part of the British government.

Another prominent Jewish leader, Haim Arlossorof, Secretary of the Histadrut, was also involved in similar negotiations with the Nazis according to the Protocols of the Knesset of 30.6.59 (the Israeli Hansard).

By the late 1930's, the German Jews were riding on a new peak of Zionist fervour, courtesy of the Nazi regime. Zionist organizations received three times as much in contributions in 1935-6 as they did in 1931-2, and the circulation of the Zionist weekly Judische Rundschau rose from 5,000 to 40,000. The Editor of the paper was the first to coin and make popular the slogan about the yellow star which Jews were later forced to wear: "Wear it with pride, the Yellow Star!" This was more than six years before Jews were forced to wear the star by law.

There is even a certain amount of evidence to show that Hitler was financed by Jewish interests. In his book, I Paid Hitler, Thyssen admitted that the Nazis themselves had been obliged to recognize the services rendered by the Jewish Simon Hirschland Bank in Essen, which had arranged Wall Street loans for Hitler through another Jewish bank in New York, Goldman Sachs & Co. For a long time no-one dared lay hands on the Simon Hirschland Bank, despite pressure from the extremist element of the Nazi Party.

And during the Nuremberg trials, Hjalmar Schacht requested that a Mr. Jeidels be called from America as a defence witness. According to a war-time edition of Time (3.7.42), Jeidels had been one of Schacht's closest cronies before the war. Hitler had even let Jeidels act as his deputy at the famous Standstill Agreement. By 1942 he had become a partner in the Jewish Lazard Frères bank in Manhattan, but still "had access to choice Continental pipelines into Hitlerism."

But probably the most bizarre liaison between Hitlerism and Zionism was in Austria and Hungary, where prominent Jewish leaders actively cooperated with the Nazis in registering the Jewish population and keeping order in the ghettoes, in return for allowing the emigration to Palestine of thousands of young Jewish pioneers. The Nazis even agreed to set up agricultural schools for the would-be emigrants in Austria. This entire affair is described in rhapsodical terms in The Secret Roads by Jon and David Kimche, two prominent British Zionists. They describe how two young Jewish settlers made their way back to Berlin and Vienna in 1938 in order to put the plan to the Gestapo. Adolf Eichmann readily agreed to the scheme, and even expelled a group of nuns from a convent to provide a training farm for young Jewish emigrés. By the end of 1938, about a thousand Jews were being provided with training in these establishments. The two emissaries were allowed to move freely about Germany. They were even allowed to visit internment camps and select the most able Jewish youngsters for training and subsequent passage to Palestine.

Eichmann himself admitted to being a staunch Zionist, ever since he had studied Herzl's classic, The Jewish State (original title An Address to the Rothschilds) as part of his S.S. training. Eichmann attended, in civilian clothes, the commemoration ceremony of the thirty-fifth anniversary of Herzl's death. And in 1939 he protested against the desecration of Herzl's grave in Vienna. In 1937 Eichmann had visited Palestine on the formal invitation of a Zionist official. But he had scarcely arrived in the territory whereupon he was deported to Egypt by the British authorities. In Cairo, he was visited by a representative of one of the Jewish terrorist organizations Hagannah.

Even well into the war, in 1944, Eichmann still liaised with his Zionist friends. He made a deal with Dr. Rudolf Kastner, a leader of the Budapest Jewish community, that several thousand prominent Zionists would be allowed to emigrate to Palestine in return for Kastner keeping order amongst those who were being shipped to concentration camps.

The Kimche brothers paid tribute to Eichmann's efforts on behalf of the Jews in The Secret Roads. "Eichmann may go down in history as one of the arch murderers of the Jewish people, but he entered the lists as an active worker in the rescue of the Jews from Europe." They go on to point out that the Zionist agents in Europe regarded the British as "the chief enemy," not Germany.

The Heretic

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Shit

13.03.2005 08:04

The nazis killed 6 million jews... "Eichmann may go down in history as one of the arch murderers of the Jewish people, but he entered the lists as an active worker in the rescue of the Jews from Europe." What a nazi shit!!! "

Frankfurt Anti German


Oh Shit!

13.03.2005 10:29

Frankfurt, your argument is compelling.

Rector


What next for Indymedia?

13.03.2005 12:42

What next on Indymedia? Favourable book reviews of the "Protocols of Zion", links to buy Zyclon-B on eBay?

Qwerty


Zionism in the Age of Dictators

13.03.2005 15:13

A very good book on the foul relation between the zionists and the nazis is Lenni brenner's Zionism in the Age of Dictators.
It can be found at:  http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/

Jew against Zionism


Cold spot for the Jews

13.03.2005 16:41

Looking around on the Net, i can't find a bona fide source for the Albert Einstein quote we are offered - it only seems to appear on White Supremacist and pro-Nazi sites which arouses some suspicions within me.

It seems highly unlikely that Einstein (a noble humanitarian political thinker and a Jewish refugee from Nazi Germany), in the event the quote is genuine, means by it what those websites mean by it.

There are things to be said about the inter-relationship between Zionism and anti-Jewish racism, on the conduct of some Zionists during the ascendancy of Nazism in Europe, and about the exploitation of Jew-hatred by those who harbour malice against the long-suffering Palestinians. But here, such commentary is stuck in a swamp of Jew-baiting.

"By the late 1930's, the German Jews were riding on a new peak of Zionist fervour, courtesy of the Nazi regime. Zionist organizations received three times as much in contributions in 1935-6 as they did in 1931-2, and the circulation of the Zionist weekly Judische Rundschau rose from 5,000 to 40,000. The Editor of the paper was the first to coin and make popular the slogan about the yellow star which Jews were later forced to wear: "Wear it with pride, the Yellow Star!" This was more than six years before Jews were forced to wear the star by law."

Yeah, German Jews were "riding high" to new peaks after the Nuremburg Laws, Kristallnacht and the opening of the concentration camps. And some of them responded by supporting the Zionists? Now there's a surprise.

As for wearing the Yellow Star - lots of people adopt the labels and badges imposed by an oppressor, turning it into a source of pride. I only hope that had i lived in Nazi Germany i would have had the courage to show some kind of solidarity and adopted the star myself.

Tasteful image of the Swastika and the Star of David, by the way. No danger anyone might be hurt by that.

"There is even a certain amount of evidence to show that Hitler was financed by Jewish interests. In his book, I Paid Hitler, Thyssen admitted that the Nazis themselves had been obliged to recognize the services rendered by the Jewish Simon Hirschland Bank in Essen, which had arranged Wall Street loans for Hitler through another Jewish bank in New York, Goldman Sachs & Co. For a long time no-one dared lay hands on the Simon Hirschland Bank, despite pressure from the extremist element of the Nazi Party."

That would be the normal functioning of capitalism. Jewish businessmen are not different to to any other when it comes to the brutal amorality of financial decision making.

"But probably the most bizarre liaison between Hitlerism and Zionism was in Austria and Hungary, where prominent Jewish leaders actively cooperated with the Nazis in registering the Jewish population and keeping order in the ghettoes, in return for allowing the emigration to Palestine of thousands of young Jewish pioneers."

"...Even well into the war, in 1944, Eichmann still liaised with his Zionist friends. He made a deal with Dr. Rudolf Kastner, a leader of the Budapest Jewish community, that several thousand prominent Zionists would be allowed to emigrate to Palestine in return for Kastner keeping order amongst those who were being shipped to concentration camps."

There are many cases of Jewish people collaborating with the Nazis in policing other Jews. The motive was pretty straightforward - to try and get themselves out of harm's way. Not a good thing, but not completely incomprehensible either. Using sections of a subject people to control the rest is a standard feature of colonial history.

'The Kimche brothers paid tribute to Eichmann's efforts on behalf of the Jews in The Secret Roads. "Eichmann may go down in history as one of the arch murderers of the Jewish people, but he entered the lists as an active worker in the rescue of the Jews from Europe."'

Meaning what exactly? Eichmann was like many Nazi officials - he helped orchestrate genocide but as the Nazis' military defeat became imminent, started to engage in emergency butt-covering. A similar thing happenned in Rwanda. Eichmann's role in bringing about the extermination of the Hunagarian Jews with the rank cynicism you describe remains one of the great crimes of history.

Some Zionists saw Britain as a greater enemy than Hitler's Germany. True enough. But your own anti-Nazi credentials, as evidenced in this article, aren't all that great either.

Alex Higgins
mail e-mail: respond_alexblog@yahoo.co.uk
- Homepage: http://bringontherevolution.blogspot.com


Racist Troll

13.03.2005 23:10

For those who are wondering why such offensive Jew-baiting nonsense has appeared here on Indymedia, i did a little research.

The article printed here by 'The Heretic' appears at the website www.heretical.com. It was apparently written in 1976 by an anonymous author from Ireland, according to the tag underneath.

Heretical.com is a site that contains numerous pieces expressing unconventional viewpoints - but a very large proportion of the opinions appear to be of a certain pretty ugly bent.

There is a lot of Jew-hating material and racist stuff. A leading feature is an article entitled "Dumb Niggers and Gloating Jews", which gives you an idea of what to expect.

I doubt this has been posted by an Indymedia lefty-type - it seems that a troll has decided to indulge in a bit of Nazism and reveal to us their inner white supremacist (while as per usual, lacking the courage to print their real name yet feigning bravery as a 'heretic').

Yawn. Just another racist with one arm locked in a Nazi salute while the other taps away at the keyboard.

Alex Higgins


Is Lenni Brenner a Nazi?

14.03.2005 04:28

Yes Lenni Brenner does seem to concur that the link between the Nazis and Zionism was rock solid. So does that make her a Nazi too?

curiosity cat killer


No

14.03.2005 07:01

Curiosity Cat Killer,

that many Zionists, including future Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin were seriously compromised during this period is a fact. (And for the record, i am an opponent of Israeli chauvinism and a strong supporter of Palestinian rights and self-determination).

My point is that this article, apart from its clearly offensive anti-Jewish nature (i.e. "German Jews were riding high in the late 1930s"), comes from an overtly pro-Nazi website - check this at heretical.com (use google if it has shifted site) and look for the swastika at the bottom. It has been posted here by someone who has chosen to identify with the name of that site.

Alex Higgins


Nazism+Zionism=shit

14.03.2005 12:00

Nazionism=crap.
Freedom for all.

Western Surfer


so could this rubbish be deleted please?

14.03.2005 12:17

This is nothing to do with legitimate arguments about Zionism. This is a white-supremacist Jewish-conspiracy pack of lies that has been posted by either a Nazi troll or someone wanting to smear IndyMedia as anti-semitic. It should be deleted/hidden asap.

type


Delete! Expunge! Censor!

14.03.2005 14:11

Ah right! What happened to the openness of Indymedia? 'Be the press' I believe was the cry...

You may find this article offensive - it is, but unfortunately it contains some very uncomfortable yet incontovertible _facts_

We must not drown the truth - we must face up to it - oh, and try to do better as a species?

One last point - has anyone considered the fate of Semites who also happen to be Palestinian?

l

light
mail e-mail: light@darkness.org


?

14.03.2005 17:21

Please delete this naziscum!
fight antisemitism!

Offensive

14.03.2005 17:35

I don't think this article should be deleted - actually i think it is important to keep Indymedia's open policy even at the risk of trolls and neo-Nazis taking advantage of it.

But i do think that someone who runs the Indymedia site should recognise this stuff for what it is and make clear it where they stand.

The openness is important, but so is the duty to expose racism masquerading as serious analysis.
________________________________________________________________________________________

I've had other experiences before of seeing material that others believed to be a principled left-wing critique of Zionism or the Israeli state, but was clearly an anti-Jewish screed from a white supremeacist or neo-Nazi site.

The fact that there should any difficulty in spotting the difference suggests that we on the left have a bit of a problem to iron out.

To the person calling themselves 'light':

"You may find this article offensive"

Well, don't you? Don't you see anything unpleasant about the sentence - "By the late 1930's, the German Jews were riding on a new peak of Zionist fervour, courtesy of the Nazi regime"?

"...unfortunately it contains some very uncomfortable yet incontovertible _facts_"

Like what? I don't think the Einstein quote at the start is genuine. Much of the information in the article is twisted in an absurd way to fit a certain thesis, as i argued above.

Looking at heretical.com's other offerings, we can find other uncomfortable facts - such as the high crime rate in post-Apartheid South Africa. That's a fact too - but appearing in an article that expresses the desire for black Africans to have their faces underneath white boots, i don't think our response should be to say, 'Well, it tells some hard truths...'

There's plenty to say about the attitudes and conduct of some Zionists and Zionist organisations towards the Nazis, but this article is not a contribution to that discussion.

"One last point - has anyone considered the fate of Semites who also happen to be Palestinian?"

This is a disturbing trend - when faced with a clear case of anti-Jewish racism which has little more than a tenuous link to the Middle East conflict, people change the subject to discuss the Palestinians.

For the record, i oppose Israel's racist war of aggression in the Occupied Territories, i support Palestinian rights, demonstrate for the Palestinians in the streets and many of my friends have gone to Gaza and the West Bank to express their solidarity. But the plight of the Palestinians has nothing to do with white supremacist and neo-Nazi hatred of the Jews (among others, including socialists) over here - and we do the Palestinians a disservice by saying that it is.

Alex Higgins


fuck antisemitism

14.03.2005 17:54

stop left-wing anti-semitism.

this article sucks and if left comrades have nothing to do then only bashing criticism against left antisemitism you only show how poor you are !

for communism and anarchy, against anti-semitism and nationalism

delete nationalism


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