Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 15:19:15 +0100
From: ionnek
Subject: [Imc-uk-process] LIST ADMIN REQUEST: moderation
To: imc-uk-process
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I second the following proposal:

yossarian said:

>/I'd like to ask imc-uk list moderators across all of our lists to
/>/place all 300 of this fellow's known email addresses on
/>/moderation, and only pass them through to the lists if he
/>/refrains from calling people Nazis, etc. Our newswire cleaners
/>/wade through reams of crap all day every day, they don't need
/>/this kind of abuse for doing their jobs. This keeps on happening
/>/whenever The Baby Goose appears on-list. It's great that there
/>/is debate about newswire policy (it makes us stronger as a
/>/network I think) but this is not debate, it is just name-calling.
/
then gdm said:
>/ /me seconds this: i'm just not so eloquent.
/
and ana said:
>/ I second this too. I just need what email addresses are those
/>/ (they ecan be mailed in private to all list moderators easily)
/
count me in on moderation of tg. a-infos did the same even though
tg did post really interesting stuff in the late nineties there.
it's a pity really to see someone going paranoid like this.

i'd like to sharpen the above proposal to be deadlined by 14 april.

ionnek

========the email questioning imc editorial processes==========

This isn't rocket science.
Have a look at the article -  http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/03/307658.html

Who on earth would want to hide this book review exposing links between ex-Nazis, the far right and NATO that contravenes no editorial guidelines?
Whoever it is, is covering up for Nazis. And aligning themselves politically with Nazis.

So who did hide it...?

The BNP?
The World Bank?
NATO?
Wombat 18?
Mossad?
The NSA?
Or Mr. Demeanor's mate hid it - another anonymous player of 'pass the
password'?
Nobody?

Oh well - best forget it then, since nobody hid it it must have been a technical glitch ;-)

Mr Demeanor's assertion that mentioning where to buy a book is a 'commercial plug' also makes me laugh. What's the good of knowing a new anti-facist book is out if you don't know where to buy it? Dillons aren't stocking it, Waterstones aren't stocking it so where am I going to buy it? It's a very, very important and moderately expensive book which almost everyone could do with a pointer as to where to buy. This is a very hard to find ground breaking anti-facist book. Only in a diseased brain does that becomes a 'commercial plug'.

I mean - WH Smiths don't have it. In fact - you can spend all day going round bookshops in London and not find a copy because it's a book cataloguing the links between NATO and Facists and Woolies don't stock it.

The only credential Mr Demeanour needs is a sense of social justice and how Indymedia help achieve that.

I'm resigned again to a sorry, sorry tale of an organisation that is failing to stop Nazi infiltration.

And whose editorial policy is fast becoming meaningless as posting policy swings to the right.


I remind you that the US military has this type of censorship as one of its primary war aims - see

From: The Unintended Consequences of Information Age Technologies
 http://www.ndu.edu/inss/books/books%20-%201996/Unintended%20Consequences%20-%20April%2096/uchome.html
'The U.S. military must be able to perform the following three fundamental
information warfare missions:

1. Protect its own information systems,
2. Attack and influence the information systems of its adversaries, and
3. Leverage U.S. information to 'gain decisive advantage'.


This is my final mail on the subject - NeoCon's and Nazis can rejoice now.

Finally, please will someone unhide this post

I have other, more pesticide free, fish to fry -

1. BBC's 'last-ditch bid' to avert strike: BBC director general Mark Thompson will meet the broadcasting unions next week in what officials are saying will be a last chance for the corporation to avoid strike action. By Jason Deans.

2. Thompson to meet unions in bid to avert strike: Jason Deans, broadcasting editor Monday April 4, 2005 - - BBC director general Mark Thompson will meet the broadcasting unions next week in what officials are saying will be a last chance for the corporation to avoid strike action over its plans to axe up 6,000 staff.

Tony