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CONVERGANCE SPACE WHERE NEXT YOUR THOUGHTS PLEASE:

CONVERGANCE SPACE WHERE NEXT YOUR THOUGHTS PLEASE: | 19.06.2005 14:51 | Sheffield

The end of a long, active week. I can’t believe a week has passed since I was scurrying around the General Cemetery for Peace in the Park making sure that there were enough folk wandering around with yellow jackets and collecting buckets.



Since then, so many people have placed so much of their energy into working towards our shared beliefs, and I would first like to thank them all here for that
I have barely heard a negative comment for Peace in the Park this year. Miraculously, it all came together and provided a perfect starting point for our mobilisations against the G8 in Sheffield. Wednesday saw a demo which saw us progress further into the town centre than we had initially hoped. Thursday saw us eating rice in the park, at least until things turned brutal for some. Friday, some of us took an unanticipated walk with others in a solemn, gagged procession though town in our orange Guantomano bay suits, with bewildered stares directed at us from all directions. Everything finished off by a huge party in our beautiful convergence space which went way beyond my expectations.

Aside from demos and peaceful protests, which are of course only a part of our movement, another important aspect is the searching for alternatives- and in this regard some workshops did materialise, and not to forget the more informal conversations that must have passed in-between people throughout the days of action. But more still needs to be done here, and I will speak more of this shortly

There was a little bit of talk about a proper revitalization for the social forum shortly before G8 impact. I don’t know what the feelings of people are about this now, I myself was not around at the social forum’s conception (haven’t been back in Sheffield for very long) and only finally managed to make a showing at what has been the forum’s last facilitating space to date- the open meeting back in March, from which grew the nucleus for the Sheffield Against the G8 group. But this is for me in miniature a perfect example of a social forum at work- a collective of people whose motivations might be quite diverse but whose aims have an inevitable affinity. Without overarching agenda, this forum should have a rhyzomic form which builds it’s roots amongst the many people who live in Sheffield who strive hard for very good causes and which produces its visible shoots, it’s practical
action, at the very nodes which concern us all, such as the arrival of undemocratic and uninvited visitors into out town. The reason why political parties with strict agendas should be remote but not estranged from our engagements is because the realm of politics is one of constant compromise, yet our forum is not of one of compromise but of seeking out the best of many possible worlds, or the best of many possible Burngreaves etc… We work in the spaces, we work on the outside and in-between and then it is left for some of us to try and push those ‘possibles’ into the spheres of existing non-radical politics in whatever way we can. No one should worry about the non-rigid structure of the social forum. It’s not supposed to be that way. Rather than having a meeting twice a month, fewer but wider, more open meetings like the one in March would perhaps be a good way to go- then when a particular issue does require a exceptional convergence of attention then further discussions, finer roots, can be extended out in more focused meetings

What was most interesting to me about the counter-G8 actions over the last few days was the varied assemblages of people who turned out to make their voices heard. From filthy dirty autonomist radicals, families sporting Make Poverty History sashes, the socialist choir, the newly sprung Independent Socialist Youth Forum, and our amazing little anarchist punks who took it upon themselves to start up a separatist sit in on the road at the Rice for Dinner event. Though I declined to join the latter on their ill-fated (but worthwhile) venture I do nevertheless think their show of rebellion was remarkable and is an energy to be harnessed. It has been a while since such collective shows of defiance against authority has emerged in Sheffield against such young people. I am in my early Twenties and I cannot remember there being such a politically motivated mobilisation with which to put all
my passion and rage into when I was at school or college in the working class northern estates of Sheffield in which I grew up (that’s maybe why I sent those years beating myself up instead). Though I don’t subscribe to the ACAB school of political philosophy in any shape or form, I nevertheless felt that what these kids were doing was partially exciting- true, out there on the front line of the demo, so to speak, any distinct notions of world peace and justice might have escaped their heads to be replaced by a ‘us and them’ mentality, but just some of those kids might just have the potential some day to be fully equipped fighters for the global justice movement, and for local issues too. This doesn’t necessarily imply a ‘mass mobilisation of working class people’ as it may have done before, but merely a chance to join us all in a social space where they can share experiences and ideas
with long time campaigners (helping to locate those nodes in the political and cultural space which are looking fucked) in the way they have been able to at the convergence space in the last few days. At least until the call from their mum that dinner’s on the table

All of this leads me to the final big paragraph for the day! Our lovely building which served us so well for days of converging might well provide us with a social centre for Sheffield- something my mind has kept drifting towards since I’ve been back in Sheffield (nearly one year now). A meeting on Sunday afternoon will provide us with an opportunity to discuss the possibilities for this space in the future. Gigs, flims, meetings are all things which of course can be facilitated by such a space. But just as important are the provision of workshops and seminars, which I am very interested in pursuing, which encourage the critical examination of perspectives on the kinds of issues that have been filling out heads all week, the kinds of issues that the G8 ministers came here to discuss in the first place, in a non-hierarchical and co-operative fashion. It has not been lost on me, the
amount of creativity and imagination that has been spurred by our affinitive distrust for our unelected global agenda-setters, from the smallest of banners to the organisation of colourful festivals and rice meals. Why not try and keep this alive? Peace in the Park could have a year-round presence in the form of creative workshops at the social centre which start off with a quote, a film or something revealing or encapsulating some kind of social injustice and would then continue with painting, music-making, dancing which centres on that theme. Indymedia workshops too- with an effort to reach out to members of the community who want to write about some other local issue other then ‘that great protest they attended yesterday’- I mean it can’t be only us activists who are sick to death of the mainstream media, can it?
So many uses for a social centre. Not to mention very occasional parties to celebrate our own humanity…
But above let’s keep the momentum going. The G8 coming to Sheffield could be a waking call for lots of young people in Sheffield who could provide an assemblage of new, fresh, exciting multiplicities of ‘other worlds’ which are possible
Sheffield, again, well done. Let’s keep our minds on it,
Yeah, we’re everywhere

Meeting at the covergance space to talk of it,s future g8 next step other issues: Food from 630pm meeting from 7pm pub from 10pm..

CONVERGANCE SPACE WHERE NEXT YOUR THOUGHTS PLEASE:
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Comments

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Not a shared view point

19.06.2005 23:15

I am convinced that the sentiments expressed in this posting do not reflect those of all people who participated in the convergence space. I for one do not feel that some groups participating in the anti-g8 actions deserve to be referred to in such a condescending way. "filthy dirty autonomist radicals," "Little anarchist punks......their energy to be harnessed" - how dare you refer to the bold actions of these people in this patronising way. Who is to harness this and for what ends to be diluted/diverted/manipulated into? I would consider these people able to make their own choices and their civil disobedience a valid action against police dictated controls on protest. I can't believe the crap that has been written here- perhaps "long time campaigners", who just perhaps they have watched change nothing for years could learn something from them - that is until perhaps "their mums call them home for tea".

"Indymedia workshops too- with an effort to reach out to members of the community who want to write about some other local issue other then ‘that great protest they attended yesterday" - is also a tad condescending. I am sure the very small number of indymedia people do their best to keep the website going, report from the streets, cover stories and write them up, take photos and edit film footage, while also trying to widen the net to all local campaigns.

Big A Little A


Little Anarchist Punk

20.06.2005 01:34

I was one of those 'Little Anachist Punks' and i have to say on behalf of the lot of us THANK YOU! to everyone at the Convergence space. They made us all feel so welcome without the usual attitude of 'just a bunch of middle class kids expressing there teen-angst'.

People there understood we were there for a real reason, passion and excitement for action in Sheffield.

The punks have tried to set up a squat for gigs and other social activities to small avail and i think it could be a hugely positive thing to regroup with the G8-Massive and set up a venue where which we can share and love equally and fight for if needs be.

Long live the Sheffield G8-Massive

Little Anarchist Punk


Ongoing Convergence

20.06.2005 08:54

(I would have come to the meeting on sunday if I had seen it advertised.)

Yes, we need a Physical as well as a Virtual meeting place, so an ongoing convergence space/social centre is definitely a good idea.

Ultimately, it's up to us to create the world/Sheffield we want to live in & the transformation of an actual physical space, however limited, is a necessary beginning...

Davy
mail e-mail: mail@davyking.com


'diversity' means nothing if you're still looking down on people

20.06.2005 12:15

I second the first commenter, the phrase "little anarchist punks" is completely offensive, and your whole attitude to that bloc is patronising in the extreme. How about you talk to some people involved in that aspect of the demo before making sweeping statements about what they were thinking and doing?

Ruth


Don't be so harsh...

21.06.2005 10:20

Hey up,

When criticisms are made of another's writing, it would be lovely if -

a) they were done in a spirit of solidarity, because

b) if you read *all* the post, the sentiments of the writer are wholly supportive, really exciting and visionary.

They even specifically say, for example, that they don't believe in old-fashioned 'mass-mobilisation' (which someone accused them of, when mentioning 'harnessing...'), and their discussion of the anarchists is full of hope and joy.

Also - the reference to filthy dirty radicals: I'm suspecting that's partly because that's how we were referring to ourselves. We even had two outings of the Filthy Radical Radio Show on Sheffield Live FM. (being played again, today I think - 87.7fm!) That's merely a reflection of not taking ourselves too seriously, and having a good time. (Anyone doubting that humour isn't one of the most powerful of political weapons hasn't seen any Bill Hicks or Rob Newman...)

It is, though, a sad truth that one or two words written in haste can cause offence. If I were sixteen or thereabouts, I would get very upset if someone called me a little anything...! Which is why I always read back ALL e-mails and posts I write to myself, and try not to write anything when drunk!

So a big 'woo hoo!' to the spirit, hope and love of the writer. And here's to a Massive Alternative Terrain of Insurection, Love and Direct Action...

Dan

Dan Aktivix
mail e-mail: dan@aktivix.org


A Comment on the Comments

21.06.2005 12:21

Odd as it may seem, great struggles such as the one you can see emerging from my journals are not always visible to the participants. Much depends on what the people dream in the secrecy of their hearts. I have always been as concerned with the shaping of dreams as with the shaping of actions. Between the lines of my journals is the struggle with humankind's view of itself - a sweaty contest on a field where motives from our own darkest past can well up out of an unconcious reservoir and become events with which we not only must live but contend. It is the hydra-headed monster which always attacks from your blind side. I pray, therefore, that when you have traversed my portion of the Golden Path you no longer will be innocent children dancing to music you cannot hear. -- The Stolen Journals .

(Frank Herbert in God Emperor of Dune1981)

Kathleen Holliday
mail e-mail: otter@blueyonder.co.uk
- Homepage: http://www.holisticfraternity.co.uk


patronising

21.06.2005 22:55

I agree with the comments.... the original post is bloody arrogant & condescending.

Had it not been for the Sheffield punks, the convergence space would have been empty, and Thursday evening would have been little more than the typical MPH event - a perfectly timed marketing campaign, legitimising a government who is arming and forcing privatisation on Africa, and doing nothing to tackle climate change - an issue which will cause far more poverty in the long run.

The punks & the samba crew rocked, despite what that bloody green party candidate said, the protest was more than just "a couple of troublemakers"

annoyed


Admittance of a poorly worded article

21.06.2005 23:17


As the original author of this piece, I would first like to say that I wasn't the one who posted it up to Indymedia. I may have edited it beforehand if I had have done. But here are my revisions :

Thank you for all criticisms and kind comments. If any debate was to be spurred, I hoped it would be about the forth paragraph, and the extent to whether our new space and the forum itself, should be an open, reflexive space or whether it should be a ground for some campaigning (an issue I realise now has been dogging the forum ever since it started up, long before I became involved), or the final paragraph, and initiate some discussion on the productive uses for M.A.T.I.L.D.A.

Instead it is an admittedly badly judged inbetween paragraph. Badly judged in the sense that it was suposed to be written in a camaraderie spirit, written at a time when I was still feeling at a high point from the weeks actions, and I'm aware I was still writing as though I was communicating with the people I was most closely involved in those actions with, for whom terms such as 'dirty filthy radicals' was just an inoffensive injoke we called each other, and quite frankly, did find the idea of 'mini anarchists' (a term not from me, but from a guy off-list who is a very sound and reasonably minded bloke) entertaining. I didn't think carefully enough about the wider membersip that this list has. I know perfectly well that you can't really split up the people who were involved in the actions into distinct groupings- after all, lots of people, of all ages ended up being in the pen created by the police on Thursday evening.

And what's more, I feel great respect for the young people (younger then me) who were involved last week- I am there with them, all the way. As I think I tried to explain, I didn't have any interest in political or social issues at all when I was a teenager. Well, I was always deeply concerned about globalization, and about the infiltration of things like Starbucks into our city, and Nike trainers and stuff; but I couldn't precisely fit them into a wider framework- my world view has opened since then. It has opened because of the interactions and encounters I have made with people, first at uni and now all of you people who I've been involved in Peace in the Park and Sheffield G8 with... This is another reason why my writing might be untactfully worded, I haven't completely got to grasp with the lexicography of the left yet. I'm a philosopher and cultural theorist and culture jammer foremost- and I can only become more fluent in speaking politics with more engagement with you people. This is why I am excited about the existence of a social centre- a place to collectively build up knoweldge and experience, somewhere I can fill the gaps that I know have (and which mean I can't speak with confidence at politically orientated meetings yet) and hopefully share some of my knowledge of, say, complexity science with others. I dont exactly see this as a 'mission... to teach these uncouth hooligans to be more like 'us'' It's more a supple and reflexive learning. I'm an autonomist and don't believe in didactic authorative forms of learning, so how could I mean this?

I'm very open to learning a lot from the other young people who are, happily, going to be an active part in creating this social space. I bloody wish I'd have been active when I was still at school and college. And just for the record, I live at home at the moment, until I find the right moment to move. So if anybody is going to get a message from home about dinner being on the table, it's probably going to be me : )

complexitybenjamin


appreciated

22.06.2005 13:46

Ben,

Your comment is really appreciated, I really hope everyone can unite to move things forward in the aftermath of the G8. The rest of the article was good, by the way :)

ruth


keep the convergence space? yes please!

25.06.2005 19:18

Has the meeting already happened? If so, how can we find out what's been decided? Since people in Sheffield have been talking about a permanent space, this seems to be the most central location that's come up. It'd be great to keep it for an info shop of the cafe/library/classroom/venue variety.

I hope more people will discuss this!

Michelle

Michelle


question

26.06.2005 18:43



The punks & the samba crew rocked, despite what that bloody green party candidate said, the protest was more than just "a couple of troublemakers"

said "annoyed "


Who was that green party candidate? It would be interesting to discuss the issue with this candidate. There is a public open meeting of Sheffield Green Party on the 30th.

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