However, in all reality, it's roots are in Capitalism, seeing as the group was created by the CIA for use as a Proxy Force against the Soviets in Afghanistan, Bosnia, and to this day in Chechnya.

"Islamic Extremism" is a creation of the US Government, who distributed textbooks in Afghanistan and throughout oil-rich, Arab regions, mixing military training/tactics/ideology, with manipulated readings of Islam.

Most of these groups did not understand their role in working for Uncle Sam, as the US hid its activities by using agencies such as Pakistan's ISI (Inter-service Intelligence Service) as a go-between for funds, weapons, logistical support, and training.

La Qaedfa's murder is rooted int the Quran.
Time to blame the Moslems insted of each of their vicitms

[of the linked article]

A reasonably good article expressing some fairly obvious ideas (G.Bush and Bin Laden) being reliant on one another and some other good points about the current situation on the middle east, but (as should be expected of jurnos really!) a total lack of understanding of the ideas of anarchism, a nice out-of-context- quote and the linking of anarchism with authorotarianist chaos and marxism.

I think the issue of the idiotic targets chosen by Al-Quaeda deserve more coverage, (i for one would have a lot more sympathy for their cause if they attacked military targets) but unfortunately this doesn't really bring anything more than a 'muslim liberal' POV. I'm suspicious too of practicing muslims commenting on these subjects, as i am of christians writing on the same subject.

Yes, Islamic fundamentalism was a creation of the Cold War and Gladio. But rather like LSD, it escaped US intelligence and took on a life of its own.

Mossad's attempts at creating fake Al Qaeda cells have been exposed at least once, but that doesn't mean the real thing doesn't exist!

The fanatical foot soldiers are being manipulated by rich 'fundamentalists' whose interests lie more in oil rights than in Sharia law.

What causes people to kill and die for a 'cause'? Political mind control...


...an ideology built from the British Empire and the USA's foreign interests


Jack Philby [father of double agent Kim Phlilby] was charged with helping create a new way of maximizing control over Saudi kingdom assets


This 'Empire' control mechanism is nothing new


one of these ways was the forming of a new version of Islamic religion using what is known as 'the process' involving cultic steering and identity control - Wahhabi Sharia-Sufi-Neobandi


Al Bana adored Hitler


The Grand mufti met with Hitler created a crack troops in Egypt to fight the Allies


The British Secret Service wanted to use the fascists of the Muslim Brotherhood to strike down the infant state of Israel in 1948


The Muslim brotherhood were co-opted pre- WWII by the British to contain the Israeli 'terror gangs'


One of these Egyptians was Yasser Arafat


This was a similar operation to the recruiting of the nazi remnants which happened as the Soviet BlocK became the new threat [The Gehlen Organisation]


This operation led to the NATO secret stay behind units [known as Gladio in Italy] to fund and fight Marxist / communist threats from dissidents via a secret mullti government US 'Marshall plan' agreemnent


The Saudi-Philby steered religion - bastardised Wahhabi, Sharia-Sufi-Neobandi [Taliban] was the basis for


the Mujahadeen which was trained and facilitated further by the CIA-Bush nexus and the Saudi-Royalty with the formation of Madrasses in Afghanistan...Pakistan, Uzbekistan


MAK - precursor to Al Queda


we know it now as Islamo-fascism


see the 'old man of the mountain' Hassan i Sabbah and the Hashish assassins, the silent warrior, The Art of War, Machievelli... legends influencing the Nazis of then and now...


The Nazi Scientists obtained via Operation Paperclip were experimenting with creating the perfect agent, killer, soldier...perfectly obedient


The CIA pushed the envelope further


many US Government agencies have been investing time and money over many years to perfect the 'assassination' technique MK [mind kontrolle] programs - Artichoke, Bluebird, Ultra, Delta


They are what you see now.





They are the 'lost' children who have been abused and indoctrinated dehumanised and rehumansised as 'the product'


These groups are an Ideology which sees it's roots realised in a similar manner to such cults as Charles Manson, The Process Church, Heavens gate see also the Jonestown Massacre see the moonies techniques, and Falon gong in China


and see lighter versions of cultic steering in


science fiction
Acid culture
New age
Maitreya [bastardised from Baha'i]
'UFO'
'conspiracy'
'anti capitalism'



name an ideology


neuro-linguistically programme the language - set the tone with an identity/image association


and you're nearly on your way to creating your own cult


in fact its not hard to see that this world, its inhabitants are being bombarded with programming constantly


our perception is being managed


and so are the 'terrorists'

anarchy ballocks!

word meanligness in islam

more likely a blood feud

from the gates of vienna

and al-andalus

thosand year itch.

hiroshima them.

Even a brief - say 15 minute - scan of literature dealing with anarchist communities which have sprung up around the work, would reveal that this assertion is at the very best, extremely tenuous.

And to claim that so-called-Al-Queda is influenced by anarchism more than some other ideology purely on the basis of supposedly similar tactics is simply not justifiable.

This is an absolutely rubbish piece of work from an academic. If I was marking this as an undergraduate paper I would probably give her a fail.

I'd say this is just another attempt at pumping more fear into the Hard Right's trigger word - "Anarchism" - that they then apply to their entire Opposition, in order to keep people from thinking.

"Yes, Islamic fundamentalism was a creation of the Cold War and Gladio. But rather like LSD, it escaped US intelligence and took on a life of its own."

There is absolutely no evidence of this. The USA has supported these organizations as recently as Chechnya. Most often, these groups were unwitting stooges, not aware in the least that they were working for Uncle Sam. Why is today any different? They attack just when it is the most politically beneficial for the Neo-Fascists in the White House.

"Mossad's attempts at creating fake Al Qaeda cells have been exposed at least once, but that doesn't mean the real thing doesn't exist!"

No, it simply supports the argument ... You're reaching pretty hard in order to make the unproven claims of a gruop of proven LIARS and Sociopaths seem credible. Why is that?

"The fanatical foot soldiers are being manipulated by rich 'fundamentalists' whose interests lie more in oil rights than in Sharia law."

Indeed, and the most dangerous place to have these rich fundamentalists and extremists is in the seats of world power - like No. 10 and the White House.

Your last point is obvious but well made - maybe I should have mentioned it in my comment above, but I thought Indymedia readers would be able to make that connection anyway.

As far as hidden agendas go - are you aware that a substantial proportion of Jihadists were in favour of the USA's illegal invasion of Iraq?
Maybe you should check out what Islamic militants say themselves on readily available internet forums, many in English. They're largely a bunch of intolerant, immature and nasty pricks and arguing with em is like talking to the Jehovah's Witnesses on your doorstep, you're onto a loser from the start. They do exist and they're not all CIA or Mossad agents...they're disaffected kids.

And no I don't know what to do about the fact that I am their enemy, when I don't support our politicians. Maybe all there is to do is try to keep tolerance, compassion and kindness in our thoughts and actions, and to keep communicating - or at least trying to.

Can you point me to a source? Because these people are angry at the US/UK and say so online does not mean that they are "jihadists". Their views are pretty widespread.

Try Google's cache of the now deleted forums at firdaus.org.

Also see
 http://ee.1asphost.com/raehatualmisk/articles.html

Also Infovlad - just one of the many 'terror trackers' online who DON'T all toe the imperialist/Zionist line. (Some do)

I'd find it hard to believe that anyone could read up on this stuff and still believe that it's all a CIA/Mossad plot.

Anarchists/anti-globalists are still hugely underestimating the threat from Islamic fundamentalism to everything we strive and hope for...believe me, under sharia law we'd be first up against the wall.

Luckily, the prevalence of US-created "Islamic Fundamentalism" is small and rather isolated from mainstream Muslim thought. Your rather ludicrous and unsupported Conspiracy Theory - spread by the people BEHIND the Iraq LIES and PNAC Neo-Fascism - is just that.

The only real threat here are the Neo-Fascists in DC, London, Tel Aviv, and the work their covert intelligence wings are putting into kick-srtaing a non-existent "war of civilizations".

Because these people are angry at the US/UK and say so online does not mean that they are "jihadists". Their views are pretty widespread.

Just cos they're a minority in the Islamic world doesn't mean they're not a threat. And their virulent religious bile has very little to do with being anti-war. Do some more reading.