Cell phone shenanigans
pc | 26.08.2005 10:53
Cell phone shenanigans
24th August 2005 - and the BBC release this strange story:
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London bomber called accomplices
One of the 7 July London bombers rang his fellow suicide attackers before his device went off, the BBC has learned.
Hasib Hussain, 18, called his three accomplices on his mobile phone before killing 13 people on the No 30 bus. But Mohammad Sidique Khan, 30, Germaine Lindsay, 19, and Shehzad Tanweer, 22, had already killed themselves and 39 passengers on three Tube trains.
No-one has been charged over the 7 July bombings. The main suspects in the 21 July failed attacks are all in custody.
Mastermind theories
Three bombs exploded on the London Underground at around 0850 BST on 7 July, but Hasib Hussain did not detonate his device until 0947 BST. Scotland Yard has confirmed to BBC home affairs correspondent Daniel Sandford that, at some point in the intervening hour, Hussain tried to contact his accomplices.
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[My Note: Making any sense to you? Why contact your suicide bomber buddies if you know there is chaos going on around you...because they have let the bombs off... If he really tried to contact them...it would suggest that these people were NOT suicide bombers...only bomb planters...So why would Hussain be a suicide bomber on the bus???? ]
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He did not try to contact anyone else, which suggests there was no "mastermind" or that he did not want to implicate them, said Daniel Sandford.
The most likely explanation was that he had tried to board the Northern Line, but it was closed, so when things started to go wrong he tried to phone his co-conspirators, he added.
Terrorism expert Michael Clarke, of King's College, said the calls showed Hussain was in a panic and probably rang his accomplices to make sure their bombs had exploded.
Charged
The 7 July bomb attacks killed 52 bus and Tube passengers and injured a further 700 people. On 21 July no-one was killed when bombs on three Tube trains and a bus failed to detonate.
So far 14 people have been charged over the 21 July attempted attacks, including three of the suspected bombers.
A fourth bomb suspect, Hussain Osman, 27, is awaiting extradition from Italy. BBC NEWS
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/uk/4181454.stm
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24th August 2005 - and Reuters release this even stranger story:
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London bombers triggered blasts by hand: paper
Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:49 AM BST
LONDON (Reuters) - Four suicide bombers who killed 52 people in attacks on London's transport network on July 7 triggered the blasts by hand rather than by mobile phones as previously suggested, a British newspaper reported on Wednesday.
The Guardian, citing unidentified senior police and anti-terrorism sources for its information, said the four British Muslims who blew themselves up on three trains and a bus used "button-like" devices to set off the bombs.
"There were no mobile phone timers on (July 7)," the Guardian quoted one source as saying. "They were manually activated."
The newspaper said the discovery was a breakthrough in the investigation into the bombings. Police declined to comment on the report. "We are not prepared to discuss this as it forms part of the investigation," said a police spokeswoman.
Earlier this month, New York's police chief Raymond Kelly said three of the bombs were probably detonated by mobile phones. Spanish investigators have said mobile phones were used to trigger the Madrid train bombings in March 2004 that killed 191 people.
The Guardian said police still had the remains of the four bombers and would try to reassemble the body parts in a search for clues.
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[My Note; Just how much were left of the four British Muslims who ' blew themselves up'? ]
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A second wave of bombings in London in July failed and police say have arrested all the suspects involved.
- reuters.co.uk/
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/new...ITY-BRITAIN.xml
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Aug 25th 2005 story morphs again: Northern line open! Hussains a Burger Muncher!
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Bus bomber stopped for a Big Mac before killing started
By Jason Bennetto and Kim Sengupta - Published: 25 August 2005 -
Suicide bomber Hasib Hussain ate a last meal at McDonald's before blowing up the No. 30 bus on 7 July, killing 13 people.
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[My Note: er...so...after he'd eaten a feast of that well known symbol of anti-imperialist militancy - a Mcdonalds Burger, he went on a Islamic mission of martyrdom as a final act against the Great Satan]
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Hussain also made a number of telephone calls, at least one of which was to one of his fellow bombers, before carrying out his attack on the bus which exploded in Tavistock Square in central London. There were reports last night he may also have spoken to the other two bombers.
The final minutes of the 18-year-old from Holbeck in Leeds are believed to have been captured by a CCTV camera as he entered the fast food outlet after coming out of King's Cross station.
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[my note: 'Captured' by a CCTV camera??? where is this footage???]
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Detectives have been attempting to piece together Hussain's "missing hour" between the moment he split up from his fellow bombers at King's Cross and got on the bus. The bus bomb exploded almost an hour after the three Tube bombs.
In particular they have been trying to ascertain whether Hussain may have met up with any "fixers" who helped in the multiple bombings which led to the deaths of 52 people.
There appears to be no evidence Hussain met anyone else during his visit to McDonald's and it is, as yet, unclear which route he took to his target.
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[my note: There appears to be no evidence they were even there]
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However, investigators have ruled out the theory that he was forced to change his plan of action because part of the underground line was closed.
[my note: so the official story has changed again]
It has been claimed that his original plan to board a northbound Northern line train at King's Cross was thwarted after the line was suspended.
However, the particular section was, in fact, open and he could also have used alternative northbound Tube routes from the same station had that not been the case.
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[my note: so they finally discovered the Northern line was open, after h-ow long???]
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Hussain boarded the bus carrying 80 passengers, many of them evacuated from the Tube, at Tavistock Square and detonated his device at 9.47am - 57 minutes after the three other suicide bombers.
All four bombs were triggered by the bombers pressing a button and not through mobile telephones. The disclosure contradicted theories that the four may have been duped into becoming suicide bombers.
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[my note: so the official story has moved away from the dupe theory, which could send people towards the 'terror-drill' scenario]
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Scotland Yard has spent seven weeks looking at hours of CCTV footage, telephone records and witness statements.
As The Independent revealed almost two weeks ago they now confirm that the bombers were not being guided by a so-called mastermind and were not part of a larger organised group.
There appears to be no evidence, as yet, that people came into the country from abroad to help with the planning or execution of the attacks.
Police sources also confirmed that there did not appear to be any links between the July 7 and July 21 bombing teams. Instead it appears the second set were carrying out a "copycat" attack - contradicting the Home Secretary, Charles Clarke, who said there may be links.
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[my note: Police & Home secretary not following the same hymn book...why? confusion creates fear, it is a psyop to use media as a weapon of warfare]
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- independent.co.uk
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/cr...ticle307981.ece
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stranger & stranger!
New theory: frantic last messages are seen as vivid proof
the British-born Muslim extremists
intended to die in the attacks
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Bomber may have lost nerve first time
LONDON, Aug. 25 (UPI) -- British police now think a bomber in the July 7 London subway bomb attacks may have lost his nerve the first time around before blowing himself up on a bus.
The new theory is that 18-year-old Hasib Hussain decided not to go through with his mission to blow himself up on a tube train, the Times of London reported.
He then took refuge at McDonald's in King's Cross and tried to contact his fellow bombers to see if they too had failed to go through with their pact, the report said.
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[My Note: but this after the BOMBS went off
Hussain has wandered into McD's and sat and called his dead buddies...while police & emergency services and injured are being treated in the street...where Hussain is watching presumably...]
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But when Hussain received no replies, he realized he was completely alone, the report said. He then steeled himself to go through with his attack. But as there was no possibility of boarding a train, Hussain got on a diverted bus packed with commuters and detonated his bomb, killing 13 people.
The theory is based on revelations there were no problems on the north-bound section of the train line, which Hussain had intended to attack to complete a "burning cross" of bombs in the heart of London.
Hussain's frantic last messages are seen as vivid proof the British-born Muslim extremists intended to die in the attacks, the Times said. United Press International via science daily!
http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/?fe...ndonbombers.xml
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Is a text message vivid proof of his intentions?
why text dead people?
the headline
'Bomber may have lost nerve first time'
contradicts the contents of the above story
why would he phone them if he knew they were dead?
remember this is supposed to be a team effort...simultaneous
apparently...
and now he's late... apparently trying to phone them after the blasts
and the confusion is in the streets is all around him
paramedics and cordens...press and police everywhere...
it seems obvious that the government media have spun so many lies that no one knows what the official line is...or the real version of events is...
24th August 2005 - and the BBC release this strange story:
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London bomber called accomplices
One of the 7 July London bombers rang his fellow suicide attackers before his device went off, the BBC has learned.
Hasib Hussain, 18, called his three accomplices on his mobile phone before killing 13 people on the No 30 bus. But Mohammad Sidique Khan, 30, Germaine Lindsay, 19, and Shehzad Tanweer, 22, had already killed themselves and 39 passengers on three Tube trains.
No-one has been charged over the 7 July bombings. The main suspects in the 21 July failed attacks are all in custody.
Mastermind theories
Three bombs exploded on the London Underground at around 0850 BST on 7 July, but Hasib Hussain did not detonate his device until 0947 BST. Scotland Yard has confirmed to BBC home affairs correspondent Daniel Sandford that, at some point in the intervening hour, Hussain tried to contact his accomplices.
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[My Note: Making any sense to you? Why contact your suicide bomber buddies if you know there is chaos going on around you...because they have let the bombs off... If he really tried to contact them...it would suggest that these people were NOT suicide bombers...only bomb planters...So why would Hussain be a suicide bomber on the bus???? ]
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He did not try to contact anyone else, which suggests there was no "mastermind" or that he did not want to implicate them, said Daniel Sandford.
The most likely explanation was that he had tried to board the Northern Line, but it was closed, so when things started to go wrong he tried to phone his co-conspirators, he added.
Terrorism expert Michael Clarke, of King's College, said the calls showed Hussain was in a panic and probably rang his accomplices to make sure their bombs had exploded.
Charged
The 7 July bomb attacks killed 52 bus and Tube passengers and injured a further 700 people. On 21 July no-one was killed when bombs on three Tube trains and a bus failed to detonate.
So far 14 people have been charged over the 21 July attempted attacks, including three of the suspected bombers.
A fourth bomb suspect, Hussain Osman, 27, is awaiting extradition from Italy. BBC NEWS
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/uk/4181454.stm -------------------------------------------------------------------
24th August 2005 - and Reuters release this even stranger story:
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London bombers triggered blasts by hand: paper
Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:49 AM BST
LONDON (Reuters) - Four suicide bombers who killed 52 people in attacks on London's transport network on July 7 triggered the blasts by hand rather than by mobile phones as previously suggested, a British newspaper reported on Wednesday.
The Guardian, citing unidentified senior police and anti-terrorism sources for its information, said the four British Muslims who blew themselves up on three trains and a bus used "button-like" devices to set off the bombs.
"There were no mobile phone timers on (July 7)," the Guardian quoted one source as saying. "They were manually activated."
The newspaper said the discovery was a breakthrough in the investigation into the bombings. Police declined to comment on the report. "We are not prepared to discuss this as it forms part of the investigation," said a police spokeswoman.
Earlier this month, New York's police chief Raymond Kelly said three of the bombs were probably detonated by mobile phones. Spanish investigators have said mobile phones were used to trigger the Madrid train bombings in March 2004 that killed 191 people.
The Guardian said police still had the remains of the four bombers and would try to reassemble the body parts in a search for clues.
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[My Note; Just how much were left of the four British Muslims who ' blew themselves up'? ]
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A second wave of bombings in London in July failed and police say have arrested all the suspects involved.
- reuters.co.uk/
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/new...ITY-BRITAIN.xml -------------------------------------------------------------------
Aug 25th 2005 story morphs again: Northern line open! Hussains a Burger Muncher!
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Bus bomber stopped for a Big Mac before killing started
By Jason Bennetto and Kim Sengupta - Published: 25 August 2005 -
Suicide bomber Hasib Hussain ate a last meal at McDonald's before blowing up the No. 30 bus on 7 July, killing 13 people.
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[My Note: er...so...after he'd eaten a feast of that well known symbol of anti-imperialist militancy - a Mcdonalds Burger, he went on a Islamic mission of martyrdom as a final act against the Great Satan]
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Hussain also made a number of telephone calls, at least one of which was to one of his fellow bombers, before carrying out his attack on the bus which exploded in Tavistock Square in central London. There were reports last night he may also have spoken to the other two bombers.
The final minutes of the 18-year-old from Holbeck in Leeds are believed to have been captured by a CCTV camera as he entered the fast food outlet after coming out of King's Cross station.
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[my note: 'Captured' by a CCTV camera??? where is this footage???]
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Detectives have been attempting to piece together Hussain's "missing hour" between the moment he split up from his fellow bombers at King's Cross and got on the bus. The bus bomb exploded almost an hour after the three Tube bombs.
In particular they have been trying to ascertain whether Hussain may have met up with any "fixers" who helped in the multiple bombings which led to the deaths of 52 people.
There appears to be no evidence Hussain met anyone else during his visit to McDonald's and it is, as yet, unclear which route he took to his target.
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[my note: There appears to be no evidence they were even there]
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However, investigators have ruled out the theory that he was forced to change his plan of action because part of the underground line was closed.
[my note: so the official story has changed again]
It has been claimed that his original plan to board a northbound Northern line train at King's Cross was thwarted after the line was suspended.
However, the particular section was, in fact, open and he could also have used alternative northbound Tube routes from the same station had that not been the case.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
[my note: so they finally discovered the Northern line was open, after h-ow long???]
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Hussain boarded the bus carrying 80 passengers, many of them evacuated from the Tube, at Tavistock Square and detonated his device at 9.47am - 57 minutes after the three other suicide bombers.
All four bombs were triggered by the bombers pressing a button and not through mobile telephones. The disclosure contradicted theories that the four may have been duped into becoming suicide bombers.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
[my note: so the official story has moved away from the dupe theory, which could send people towards the 'terror-drill' scenario]
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Scotland Yard has spent seven weeks looking at hours of CCTV footage, telephone records and witness statements.
As The Independent revealed almost two weeks ago they now confirm that the bombers were not being guided by a so-called mastermind and were not part of a larger organised group.
There appears to be no evidence, as yet, that people came into the country from abroad to help with the planning or execution of the attacks.
Police sources also confirmed that there did not appear to be any links between the July 7 and July 21 bombing teams. Instead it appears the second set were carrying out a "copycat" attack - contradicting the Home Secretary, Charles Clarke, who said there may be links.
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[my note: Police & Home secretary not following the same hymn book...why? confusion creates fear, it is a psyop to use media as a weapon of warfare]
-------------------------------------------------------------------
- independent.co.uk
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/cr...ticle307981.ece -------------------------------------------------------------------
stranger & stranger!
New theory: frantic last messages are seen as vivid proof
the British-born Muslim extremists
intended to die in the attacks
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Bomber may have lost nerve first time
LONDON, Aug. 25 (UPI) -- British police now think a bomber in the July 7 London subway bomb attacks may have lost his nerve the first time around before blowing himself up on a bus.
The new theory is that 18-year-old Hasib Hussain decided not to go through with his mission to blow himself up on a tube train, the Times of London reported.
He then took refuge at McDonald's in King's Cross and tried to contact his fellow bombers to see if they too had failed to go through with their pact, the report said.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
[My Note: but this after the BOMBS went off
Hussain has wandered into McD's and sat and called his dead buddies...while police & emergency services and injured are being treated in the street...where Hussain is watching presumably...]
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But when Hussain received no replies, he realized he was completely alone, the report said. He then steeled himself to go through with his attack. But as there was no possibility of boarding a train, Hussain got on a diverted bus packed with commuters and detonated his bomb, killing 13 people.
The theory is based on revelations there were no problems on the north-bound section of the train line, which Hussain had intended to attack to complete a "burning cross" of bombs in the heart of London.
Hussain's frantic last messages are seen as vivid proof the British-born Muslim extremists intended to die in the attacks, the Times said. United Press International via science daily!
http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/?fe...ndonbombers.xml -------------------------------------------------------------------
Is a text message vivid proof of his intentions?
why text dead people?
the headline
'Bomber may have lost nerve first time'
contradicts the contents of the above story
why would he phone them if he knew they were dead?
remember this is supposed to be a team effort...simultaneous
apparently...
and now he's late... apparently trying to phone them after the blasts
and the confusion is in the streets is all around him
paramedics and cordens...press and police everywhere...
it seems obvious that the government media have spun so many lies that no one knows what the official line is...or the real version of events is...
pc
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