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Stop forcing division on us Iraqis

Nadia | 29.08.2005 10:38

Stop forcing division of us Iraqis.

Stop forcing your division on us Iraqis
Politicians, media and pro-war people needs to accept that Iraqis identity as IRAQIS do exists and is strong. Stop the dividing game of sunni this, shiia that.

The stubbornness on continuing on this new dividing path; when I as an Iraqi and Iraqis around me say they don’t agree with it gives me the conviction that these people are not honest in helping us Iraqis, they are doing all they can to divide us.

Some might do it out of ignorance of the Iraqi society, some might do it because they think tensions in media sells and some do it out of pure desire to do all what they can to divide Iraq and Iraqis.

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Is this what is going on in Iraq?

The Age-Old Israeli Plan to Divide Iraq
An ambitious report entitled “A Strategy for Israel in the 1980s,” which appeared in the World Zionist Organization’s periodical Kivunim in February 1982 disclosed a strategy aimed at making the whole of the Middle East a kind of “living space” for Israel. The report, drawn up by Oded Yinon, an Israeli journalist and formerly attached to the Foreign Ministry of Israel, set out the scenario of the “division of Iraq” in these terms:
Iraq, rich in oil on the one hand and internally torn on the other, is guaranteed as a candidate for Israel’s targets. Its dissolution is even more important for us than that of Syria- Iraq is, once again, no different in essence from its neighbors, although its majority is Shi’ite and the ruling minority Sunni. Sixty-five percent of the population has no say in politics, in which an elite of 20 percent holds the power. In addition there is a large Kurdish minority in the north, and if it weren’t for the strength of the ruling regime, the army and the oil revenues, Iraq’s future state would be no different than that of Lebanon in the past- In Iraq, a division into provinces along ethnic/religious lines as in Syria during Ottoman times is possible. So, three (or more) states will exist around the three major cities: Basra, Baghdad and Mosul, and Shi’ite areas in the south will separate from the Sunni and Kurdish north.
Ref
ed.) Israel Shahak, The Zionist Plan for the Middle East; from Oded Yinon’s “A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties” Published by the Association of Arab-American University Graduates, Inc. Belmont, Massachusetts, 1982 Special Document No. 1 (ISBN 0-937694-56-8); 2- (ed.) Israel Shahak, The Zionist Plan for the Middle East;

Nadia

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Forcing divisions on 'us'

29.08.2005 12:37

Who's 'us'? Because from what I've seen, the Shi’ites actually want these divisions. It's only the Sunnis that don't want federalism. They want to carry on the priviliedged position they had under Saddam to the detriment of everybody else. The Sunnis have to realise that they can't have control over the entire country any more.

Humpty Dumpty


The people who are forcing division are the Iraqi puppet government

29.08.2005 13:28


The people who are forcing these divisions upon the Iraqi people are the US and their puppet regime in Iraq. As a Shi'ite Iraqi, I dont believe that there is a "natural" hatred between the Sunnis and Shiite but a forced one that has been imposed in the form of the Military dictatorship that now exists in Iraq.

The problems that we are seeing have been brought about by British and American citizens, who are now residing in Iraq, on the grounds that they are Iraqi because they happen to be Arab. The truth of the matter is, that Allawi, Chalabi and many more in the government gave up their Iraqi passports and left the country over thirty years ago and now they claim they are capable of running it.

The Kurds want an independent state, so they demand that their leaders become the president of Iraq and not Kurdistan. The kurds are also currently ethnicly cleanising areas of Turkomen and Arabs in areas like Kirkuk.

What Iraq has got is a bunch of spoilt bastards who want everything there own way. The Iranian funded Dawa Party and Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, speak better persian than they do Arabic.

The Iraqi Communist Party are to busy trying to get into the back pockets of their American allies and as most people in Iraq say, they are funded by Israel and praise the Americans more than the Americans praise themselves.

Ahmed Chalabi should be in Jordan serving a 32 year prison sentence for bringing down the Petra bank and this is what we are calling democracy????

If this is the democracy that people in the West aspire too, then please give me back Saddam, atleast he had some honesty and was open about being a bastard. The people we now have are nothing more than a freak show who like to pretend they have a following in Iraq.

The Iraqi government and the occupation need each other, without the occupation the government would fall like a house of cards and the people could then establish a government which could then provide them with the things, that they, the people deserve.





iraqi


Agree with Iraqi

29.08.2005 16:04

Iraqi!

I couldn't have said it better my self, I fully agree with you. My family is mix of shiia sunni christian and most of the people I knew in Iraq was a mix too.

I mean now in Iraq the way things are reported is like if I happened to have blocked a car in a parking lot and the owner of the car were angry with me. Then the media the first thing they focus on is aha Nadia is shiia and the other woman is sunni that’s the reason you are angry at each other. Why? Why are they doing this?

Its like a brainwashing propaganda thing going on 24 hours each day, and none of it is to unite us, it all goes about dividing us. If there are 99 Iraqis in one area that are living ordinary lives in a suburb the politicians (Iraqis and westerners) and the media focus on the one man with extreme violent views as a representation of us Iraqis. Why?

Iraq is a country in deep trouble, and it have been hijacked since the US invasion started by a bunch of people who just keep talking about shiia this and sunni that. Stop it. Even one of the Iraqi politicians Bremer appointed said it on TV this sort of shiia sunni talk came with the invation.

If I was diagnosed with Cancer and all the people around me all they talk about is all the people who have died in cancer and how little hope there is for me to survive. What are the chances I will beat my cancer. Not many I can guarantee. That is what they are doing to us Iraqis, everywhere I turn there is information about sunni this and shiia that and how much we hate each other.

For example now with this constitution, all the media reports say sunnis are against it and you have Bush talking they don’t want freedom. What a bunch of crap idiotic thing to lie about.

I am against paragraphs in the constitution and my reason for being against has NOTHING to do with my religion or hunger for power.
Article 7:2
“2nd - The state will be committing to fighting terrorism in all its forms and will work to prevent its territory from being a base or corridor or an arena for its (terrorism's) activities.”

This paragraph in my view means human rights of Iraqis and peace will be on hold. Because this war on terror must be fought first. So the Iraqi police can continue to torture Iraqis in prisons as they do today. And the bombing of our cities will continue. My refusal is based on that nothing else. Sadly living outside Iraq I am not allowed to participate in the vote.
All I want is peace for my country, but no one listens. But somehow I can guarantee that if I was pouring hate against Sunnis or Kurds, Islam or Christianity, the media would be flocking toward me to hear what I want to say. Who knows maybe Bush himself will give me money to be a politician in Iraq so I can destroy it all. Because that is exactly the sort of people they brought with them to Iraq. Greedy, power hungry people that exits in all countries.

Nadia


absolutely true nadia

30.08.2005 14:22


I absolutely agree with you nadia.

As Iraqis, it is like we are being told what to think and nobody seems to be hearing anything past the rhetoric that it is all based upon religion and race. What is being spoken about is not Iraq but they are speaking about the US and UK a few hundred years ago, when people were burnt at the stake for being catholic or protestent. In the US, its like the Salem witch trials all over again.

The only difference now is that the old excuses have died and they can't accuse people of witch craft anymore.

Iraq is like any other country in the world but the difference with Iraq is that it dates back thousands of years and culturally has many different influences from the greeks, Assyrians, Kurds, Arabs, Turkomen and many more groupings.

People should leave us alone and let us solve our own problems. How would people in the UK like it, if the US invaded, established a new government, wrote a constitution and asked the people to accept it?

Hitler tried doing that to the UK and what happened? People went to war to fight an invasion. All over the European countries, which Hitler did invade, the people resisted and rather than hailing them as extremists, we declared them as heroes!

Religion is such an easy diversion to dupe people into thinking, that there is a them and us situation and it is also a good cover up to the truth behind the mask.

iraqi


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