Or for example any other stalinist regime

Old Joe himself, and any leader afterwards up to gorby
Castro
Mugabe
Chavez
Pol Pot
Chariman mow and subsequents

Any left wing regime is as bad as any right wing regime, to suggest otherwise is to piss on reality

What kind of complete bullshit is this, "Realist": "Any left wing regime is as bad as any right wing regime." The so caled liberal regimes are now the "worse".

If you want realism you must step outside the propaganda and cure yourself from the brainwashing.ç

The most destructive, violent and barbaric regime of the last fifty years has been the USA - a "liberal democracy", led by fundamentalist new liberal ideologues who just want to rob the poor and the rest of the world, have univserval slave so they can accumulate heaps of money.

The US regime is just the arse end of the Roman Empire, in its death throws. The US regime is just all the shittiest parts of that Roman Empire.

To hold the view that the Chavev government, or even the Castro government, is as bad as any right-wing government shows that "Realist" - along with many other anarchists, libertarians and liberals - are indocrinated into the western liberal ideology by their pervasive propaganda.

It is not because these people are so badly informed, lack the intelligence or always close their minds completely to debate. However, what stops them looking at the reality and truth is that they dont even think for one moment that thay are indocrinated. This indoctrination prevents them even considering essentail truths and a large part of reality.

Liberal and right wing propaganda is necessary to indocrinate the masses into capitalism and capitalist democracy. It works very well. It has been used for generations and goes alll the way back to the Roman Empire.

Most liberals, and many lefts and anarchist who claim to reject and oppose capitalism, exploitation and injustice only reject the obvious indefensible aspects of the barbaric this system: its oppression, its robbery, its wars et cetera. This is just the covert necessay evil needed to shore up capitalist system; that which is strategically necessary to make it completely safe and stable. This is only the excess, the barbaric froth, the extended greed ... This is what the anarcho-libertarian and liberals challenge - the barbaric indefensible tip of the ice-berg. It is a step forward from facism for sure, but only a one step, where a hundred steps are needed to reach reality and truth.

What they dont even recognise or know even exists - that other 90% below the surface - they accept. The indocrination is such that they cant even recognise or acknowledge this oppression, injustice violence and suffering. They are so far removed and alien to it and its solutions that they act as apologists for liberals and the fascist.

The US is one of the most barbaric, oppressive, violent and expoitative government in modern history - the US empire. Previous to that it was the Brtish Empire and before that the Roman Empire. The US is in the tradition and the inheritor of the Roman Empire, although even more barbaric and far more dishonest and degenerate. This is reality and indisputable fact.

It is absurd to compare the regimes of Cuba and Venesuala, who seek to help and assist their own peoples, whilst defending themselves from the US - to the very most right-wing regime of the USA, or any other right wing regime.

Your realisty "realist" is thet of the liberal minded facist, like many anarchists, and libertarians. The tratedgy is thet you can not see it because of indoctrination, and you will probably never see it unless you go through the washing machine several times and are hung out to dry many times too.

Realist: you are pissing on reality and all over yourself too!