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U.S. wants kidnaped american journalist killed

War On Truth | 18.01.2006 02:01

Iraq is the world’s most dangerous country for journalists and the place where the most are kidnapped. 77 journalists and media assistants have been killed there since the fighting began on 22 March 2003 and 31 kidnapped.


US citizen, Jill Carroll who speaks fluent Arabic, was kidnapped on January 7th in one of Baghdad's most dangerous neighborhoods. She is a freelance journalist who has been writing for the Christian Science Monitor. Gunmen ambushed her car and killed her translator after she left the offices of Adnan al-Dulaimi, a Sunni Arab leader who failed to show up for a prearranged interview.

Today, her abductors issued a statement saying they will kill her if the United States does not free all Iraqi women prisoners within 72 hours.
Aljazeera aired a brief video showing the captive journalist and said that the kidnappers had identified themselves as members of a previously unknown armed group calling itself the "Brigades of Vengeance".

The trouble is that the U.S. government does care if she gets killed and are more than happy if more and more journalist are discouraged to report from Iraq. The U.S. military have been responsible for many of the deaths of journalists in Iraq, including bombing the Aljazeera offices and the hotel in which many foreign journalist were staying during the fall of Baghdad. Jill's captors will not find the U.S. responsive to their demands and have clearly picked the wrong person. Jill has not been a supporter of the U.S. occupation and while the U.S. authorities will give lip service to attempts to secure her safe release they would infact be far happier to have her dead and have one less rouge journalist attempting to open peoples eyes to the truth on the ground in Iraq.

Carroll's former employers The Jordan Times published a Sunday editorial, stating: "The kidnappers who abducted her could not have chosen a more wrong target. True, Jill is a US citizen. But she is also more critical of US policies towards the Middle East than many Arabs… Jill has been from day one opposed to the war, to the invasion and occupation of Iraq. "

Aljazeera also reaffirmed its rejection of all forms of violence against journalists and demanded Caroll's immediate release.

Jill's father issued the following statement:

"Jill is an innocent journalist and we respectfully ask that you please show her mercy and allow her to return home to her mother, sister and family. Jill is a kind person whose love for Iraq and the Iraqi people are evident in her articles. She has been welcomed into the homes of many Iraqis and shown every courtesy. From that experience, she understands the hardships and suffering that the Iraqi people face every day. Jill is a friend and sister to many Iraqis and has been dedicated to bringing the truth of the Iraq war to the world.

"We appeal for the speedy and safe return of our beloved daughter and sister."

– Jim, Mary Beth, and Katie Carroll

The Monitor then released this statement:

"Jill Carroll's colleagues at The Christian Science Monitor and journalists around the world appeal to her captors to release her immediately and without harm. They have seized an innocent person who is a great admirer of the Iraqi people. She is a professional journalist whose only goal has been to report truthfully about Iraq and to promote understanding. As an intelligent, dedicated, open-minded reporter, she has earned the respect of her Arab and Western peers. Since arriving in Iraq in 2003, Jill has always been treated as a guest by Iraqis and has sought to reflect their views and their hearts to the world. She has doggedly pursued stories for a variety of news organizations from several different countries. She began to file stories to The Monitor early last year.

"Jill is in our prayers."
– Richard Bergenheim, Editor

There has been a spate of kidnappings of Westerners in Iraq over the past few months after a lull during most of 2005. Four Christian peace activists, a Briton, an American and two Canadians are still thought to be being held captive - or else they are already dead.

Insurgents in Iraq have kidnapped more than 240 foreigners and killed at least 39 of them.

Jill is one of an increasingly unusual breed of journalist. Most foreign reporters largely in Iraq now restrict themselves to armored cars shuttling around the American-controlled Green Zone. They cover American officials and the isolated authorities of the U.S.-backed Iraqi government.

This, emphatically, has not been the case with Ms. Carroll's coverage:
Unlike most Western reporters in Baghdad, Carroll spoke Arabic well enough to easily talk to ordinary Iraqi people and interview Iraqi officials.

"In this poorly understood region, where so much is at stake, important stories are lost everyday because the foreign press corps doesn't speak Arabic," Carroll once wrote. "Journalism is a public service and readers are best-served if I and the people I am writing about speak the same language."

It remains an amazing fact that an American occupation which began largely without Arabic-speakers... has since been covered mainly by reporters who can't communicate directly with the people they're covering.

Her last report was published on Thursday, the day before her translator was shot and she was abducted. Her final report of 2005 noted that things were deteriorating badly in Baghdad:
"Iraqis are saying that 'The purple finger isn't paying off,' in reference to the indelible ink left on a voter's finger."

Google cache of prophetic articles on Jill's Blog  http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:atvSYzbaphUJ:ladyofarabia.blogspot.com/+blog+%22lady+of+arabia%22&hl=en

Even more prophetic, Jill article on kidnapping in Iraq  http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0422/p06s01-woiq.htm


77 journalists have been killed since March 2003 while doing their job.

Two other journalists are still missing :

Frédéric Nérac
of ITV News (UK), since 22 March 2003

Isam Hadi Muhsin Al-Shumary
Suedostmedia, 15 August 2004

These are the names and affiliations of those journalists who died in the line of duty in Iraq starting as early as the first days of war:

Terry Lloyd, 22 March 2003, ITV News correspondent; disappeared in southern Iraq and was declared dead a day later.

Paul Moran, 22 March 2003, freelance Australian cameraman; killed when an apparent human bomber detonated a car at a military checkpoint in north-eastern Iraq.

Gaby Rado, 30 March 2003, correspondent for Britain's Channel 4 TV; fell to his death from the roof of his hotel in the town of Sulaymania in northern Iraq.

Kaveh Golestan, 2 April 2003, Iranian freelance cameraman on an assignment for the BBC; killed after stepping on a landmine in northern Iraq.

Michael Kelly, 3 April 2003, US journalist and Washington Post columnist; killed while travelling with the US army's 3rd infantry division in Iraq.

Kamaran Abd al-Razaq Muhammad, 6 April 2003, translator working for BBC; killed in northern Iraq in a "friendly fire" incident.

David Bloom, 6 April 2003, NBC journalist; died due to illness.

Julio Anguita Parrado, 7 April 2003, New York correspondent for El Mundo daily Spanish newspaper; killed in a missile attack while accompanying the US army's 3rd infantry division south of Baghdad.

Christian Liebig, 7 April 2003, reporter of German weekly magazine, Focus; killed in a missile attack while accompanying the US army's 3rd infantry division south of Baghdad.

Tariq Ayoub, 8 April 2003, Aljazeera TV channel correspondent; killed in a US air strike at Aljazeera office in Baghdad.

Taras Protsyuk, 8 April 2003, Reuters cameraman; killed when a US tank opened fire on Palestine hotel.

Jose Couso, 8 April 2003, cameraman for Spain's Telecinco TV; killed when a US tank opened fire on Palestine hotel.

Mario Podesta, 15 April 2003, correspondent for Argentina's America TV; died in a car crash while travelling from the Jordanian border to Baghdad.

Veronica Cabrera, 15 April 2003, freelance camerawoman for Argentina's America TV; died in a car crash while travelling from the Jordanian border to Baghdad.

Elizabeth Neuffer, 9 May 2003, foreign correspondent for the Boston Globe; killed in a car accident in Iraq.

Walid Khalifa Hassan Al-Dulami, 9 May 2003, translator accompanying foreign correspondent for the Boston Globe in Iraq; killed in a car accident.

Richard Wild, 5 July 2003, British freelance cameraman; gunned down in central Baghdad.

Jeremy Little, 6 July 2003, Austrian journalist with NBC News and embedded with the US 3rd infantry division; died of post-operative complications, days after being injured in a grenade attack.

Mazin Dana, 18 August 2003, a Palestinian cameraman with Reuters; shot dead by US soldiers while filming outside Baghdad's Abu Gharaib prison.

Mark Fineman, 23 September 2003, Los Angeles Times correspondent in Baghdad; died as a result of an apparent heart attack while waiting for an interview in the office of the Iraqi Governing Council (IGC).

Ahmad Shawkat, 28 October 2003, editor of the Iraqi weekly Bilah Ittijah (Without Direction); killed by unknown gunmen in the city of Mosul.

Duraid Isa Muhammad, 27 January 2004, producer and translator for CNN; killed in an ambush carried out by unknown assailants outside Baghdad.

Ali Abdul Aziz, 18 March 2004, cameraman for Dubai-based al-Arabiya TV channel; shot dead by US troops in central Baghdad.

Ali al-Khatib, 18 March 2004, al-Arabiya TV channel journalist in Iraq; shot dead by US troops in central Baghdad.


Here is a full list:

28.11.2005 - Akeel Abdul Rwdha, AL-Iraqia

07.11.2005 - Ahmed Hussein Al Maliki, Tall Afar

19.10.2005 - Mohamed Haroun, Union of Iraqi Journalists general secretary

21.09.2005 - Firas Al-Maadhidi, Al-Safir

20.09.05 - Hind Ismail, Al-Safir

19.09.2005 - Fakher Haydar Al-Tamimi, New York Times

27.08.2005 - Rafed Al Rubaii, Al Irakiya

02.08.05 - Steven Vincent, freelance journalist

22.06.2005 - Yasser Al Salihy, Knight Ridder

03.07.2005 - Maha Ibrahim, Baghdad TV

01.07.2005 - Khaled Sabih al Attar, al-Iraqia

28.06.2005 - Wael Al Bakri, Al Charkiyah

22.06.05 - Jassim Al Qais, Al Siyada

15.05.2005 - Najem Abed Khodair, Al-Madaa and Tariq al-Shaab

15.05.2005 - Ahmad Adam, Al-Madaa and Sabah

23.04.2005 - Saleh Ibrahim, Associated Press

15.04.2005 - Shamal Abdallah Assad, Kirkuk TV, Kurdsat

14.04.2005 - Ali Abrahim Aissa, Al-Hurriya TV

14.04.2005 - Fadel Hazem Fadel, Al-Hurriya TV

01.04.2005 - Ahmed Jabbar Hashim, Al Sabah

14.03.2005 - Houssam Hilal Sarsam, Kurdistan-TV

10.03.2005 - Laik Ibrahim, Kurdistan-TV

25.02.2005 - Raeda Mohammed Wageh Wazzan, Iraqiya

09.02.2005 - Abdel Hussein Khazaal, Al-Hurra TV

01.11.2004 - Dhia Najim, Reuters

27.10.2004 - Liqaa Abdul-Razzaq, Al-Sharqiya

14.10.2004 - Karam Hussein, European Pressphoto Agency

14.10.2004 - Dina Mohamad Hassan, Al Hurriya Television

7.10.2004 - Ahmad Jassem, Nivive television

12.09.2004 - Mazen al-Tomaizi, Al-Arabiya

26.08.2004 - Enzo Baldoni, Diario della settimana

15.08.2004 - Mahmoud Hamid Abbas, ZDF

15.08.2004 - Hossam Ali, freelance

03.06.2004 - Sahar Saad Eddine Nouami, Al-Mizan, Al-Khaima, Al-Hayat Al-Gadida

27.05.2004 - Kotaro Ogawa, Nikkan Gendai

27.05.2004 - Shinsuke Hashida, Nikkan Gendai

07.05.2004 - Mounir Bouamrane, TVP

07.05.2004 - Waldemar Milewicz, TVP

19.04.2004 - Assad Kadhim, Al-Iraqiya TV

26.03.2004 - Bourhan Mohammad al-Louhaybi , ABC News

18.03.2004 - Ali Abdel Aziz, Al-Arabiya

18.03.2004 - Ali Al-Khatib, Al-Arabiya

18.03.2004 - Nadia Nasrat, Diyala Television

28.10.2003 - Ahmed Shawkat, Bila Ittijah

17.08.2003 - Mazen Dana, Reuters

02.07.2003 - Ahmad Karim, Kurdistan Satellite TV

07.04.2003 - Julio Anguita Parrado, El Mundo

07.04.2003 - Christian Liebig, Focus

08.04.2003 - Tarek Ayoub, Al Jazeera

08.04.2003 - Taras Protsyuk, Reuters

08.04.2003 - José Couso, Tele 5

04.04.2003 - Michael Kelly , Washington Post

02.04.2003 - Kaveh Golestan , BBC

23.03.2003 - Terry Lloyd, ITV News

22.03.2003 - Paul Moran, Australian Broadcasting Corporation

Luaay Salam Radeef, Al-Baghdadia Cameraman

Allan Enwiyah, American journalist Jill Carroll’s interpreter

21.09.05 - Ahlam Youssef , Al-Iraqiya TV

17.09.2005 - Sabah Mohssin, Al-Iraqiya

28.08.2005 - Waleed Khaled, Reuters TV

23.07.2005 - Adnan Al Bayati, Rai, Mediaset, TG3 and Panorama

02.09.2004 - Ismaïl Taher Mohsin, Associated Press

25.08.2004 - Jamal Tawfiq Salmane, Gazeta Wyborcza

29.05.2004 - Mahmoud Ismael Daood, bodyguard, Al-Sabah al-Jadid

29.05.2004 - Samia Abdeljabar, driver, Al-Sabah al-Jadid

27.05.2004 - Unknown, translator

25.05.2004 - Unknown, translator

21.05.2004 - Rachid Hamid Wali, cameraman assistant, Al-Jazira

29.04.2004 - Hussein Saleh, driver, Al-Iraquiya TV

26.03.2004 - Omar Hashim Kamal, translator, Time

18.03.2004 - Majid Rachid, technician, Diyala Television

18.03.2004 - Mohamad Ahmad, security agent, Diyala Television

27.01.2004 - Duraid Isa Mohammed, producer and translator, CNN

27.01.2004 - Yasser Khatab, driver, CNN

07.07.2003 - Jeremy Little, sound engineer, NBC

06.04.2003 - Kamaran Abdurazaq Muhamed, translator, BBC

22.03.2003 - Hussein Othman, translator, ITV News

See also
 http://search.csmonitor.com/2006/0113/carroll_update.html
 http://www.rsf.org/IMG/pdf/Etude_Irak_Eng_PDF.pdf

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Comments

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No the USA does not want anyone killed in Iraq

18.01.2006 10:45

That above article is pure conspiracy theory, anti-American propaganda. The USA does not want anyone killed in Iraq. The reason America went into Iraq in the first place was to sort out the mess there and to put the country right, to bring freedom and democracy to the Iraqi people. You lot are unable to think in terms other than conspiracy theories and are so blinded by your hatred of the West and of American. Put the propaganda mag down and start to think for yourselfs!

Concerned


Concerned you are a fool

18.01.2006 11:13

If America didn't want people killed in Iraq then why did they send 250,000 heavily armed men to the country, all of whom have been trained to kill? If they didn't want people killed in Iraq then why have they dropped tens of thousands of explosive devices on villages and cities where people live? If they didn't want people killed then why have they been using depleted uranium tipped munition which has polluted the country and will cause continued death and misery of people there for hundreds of years?

Concerned, you are just a troll and I am sure your ignorance is false.

I am sure you are aware of the history of the united states. I am sure you are aware that the US led economic sanctions against Iraq caused many hundreds of thousands of deaths since the early 90s and that the mess in Iraq has a great deal to do with US interference in the area due to geopolitical power games over the incredible oil reservers in the area.

So, lets not pretend that the US don't want people dead when it is obvious for all to see.

BTW. a quote from a college of Jill Carroll...

"She sympathized with its sufferings and committed to tell the truth. When I talked to her about how the Iraqis live, she always cried. She cried for the sufferings of Iraq more than Iraqis. She has the nicest heart in this world. When I blamed Iraqis for what is happening in the country, she said "'don't blames [sic] the Iraqis. You should blame the governments for what they do.'"

ben


THEY ALSO KIDNAP PEOPLE IN PALESTINE

18.01.2006 11:49

IT IS NOT ONLY IN IRAQ WHERE THEY KIDNAP PEOPLE THAT IS THERE TO HELP, IT ALSO HAPPENS IN PALESTINE

John


Concerned is a propaganda mouthpiece himself

18.01.2006 12:44

Nyer nyer nyer, "think for yourselves!"

Fine talk coming from some idiot who can only talk in Fox News clichés. You have never once demonstrated an iota of original thought.

If the US doesn't want anyone killed in Iraq they're not doing very well, are they, considering over 100,000 Iraqis are now dead because of their grubby, illegal war...

unconcerned


U.S. admit to hold iraqi women prisoners

18.01.2006 13:07

Today, U.S. forces in Iraq have finally admitted that they are holding at least eight women prisoners. The news comes after the abductors of an American journalist threatened to kill her if the authorities did not free all Iraqi women within 72 hours. In the past the U.S. have denied have female Iraqi prisoners (apart from Rihab Taha and Huda Ammash ("Dr Germ" and "Mrs Anthrax" to the Western media) who were among eight former senior figures under Saddam freed last month despite apparently being guilty of terrible crimes against humanity).

"We have eight females. They are being held for the same reasons as the others, namely that they are a threat to security," said Lieutenant Henninger, part of the U.S. detentions operation in Iraq. Over 14,000 men are held at Abu Ghraib and other jails on suspicion of not appreciating the freedom brought to their country by the liberating U.S. military occupiers.

Additionally, in a show of failed communication between the U.S. and their puppet Iraqi government, another official said there were a number of women among about 7,000 people being held in civilian Iraqi jails under its control, although he said he did not have an exact figure. All apparently had been convicted of common crimes.

It is not the first time that kidnappers of Western hostages have demanded the release of women prisoners.
In October 2004, three engineers, two Americans and a Briton, were beheaded after being abducted in Baghdad by al Qaeda militants who demanded the release of women prisoners.

after serial denials


First Casualty Of War

18.01.2006 16:08

24th June 2005, journalist Yasser Salihee was killed by a single bullet to the head as he approached a checkpoint that had been thrown up near his home in western Baghdad by US and Iraqi troops. It is believed that the shot was fired by an American sniper. According to eyewitnesses, no warning shots were fired.

Salihee had been working on a story about how the US-backed forces have been carrying out extra-judicial killings of alleged members and supporters of the anti-occupation resistance. His investigation followed a feature in the New York Times magazine in May which detailed how the US military had modeled the Iraqi interior ministry police commandos, on the death squads the US had unleashed El Salvador to crush to crush pro-democracy insurgency in the 1980s.

The killing of journalists who attempt to document and expose state-organised murder has accompanied every dirty war against a civilian population. Since the US occupation of Iraq began, dozens of reporters, cameramen and other media workers have been killed by American-led forces in suspicious circumstances that were never independently investigated. While it might not be the US government that has kidnapped Jill Carroll they certainly won't be upset if she should end up dead!

Two more Iraqi journalists have been killed in the days since Yasser Salihee’s death. On June 26, Maha Ibrahim, a news editor with a television station operated by the anti-occupation Iraqi Islamic Party, was shot dead when US troops opened fire on her car as she and her husband drove to work. Two days later, Ahmad Wail Bakri, a program director for Iraqi al-Sharqiya television was killed by American troops as he reportedly tried to drive around a traffic accident in Baghdad.

free the media


DAJJAL PARTLY CAVES, RELEASES 6 WOMEN TORTURE VICTIMS

18.01.2006 18:58

DAJJAL PARTLY CAVES, RELEASES 6 WOMEN TORTURE VICTIMS
Islamic Community Net
January 18, 2006
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/islamiccommunitynet/message/9110

This is a signal historical event for it clarifies that Dajjal Bush CAN indeed be held to civilized standards by the judicious application of armed force.

The official policy of "non-negotiation with terrorists" has fallen flat on its face and now enters the dustbin of history. It is now time for the mice to demand more cookies to end the torture camps for good.

Of course, no one should be under the illusion that Dajjal Bush is imprisoning "only" 8 women in his multiple rape and torture camps. No doubt there are many thousands. Nor should anyone think that Bush cares anything at all about the fate of Jill Carrol, a critic whom he would actually love to see dead. What this release really shows is that application of sufficient pressure at a particular point is going to produce humiliating international pressure that can crack even a crude fascist barbarian like the antichrist of our age, George Bush.


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Female detainees set free in Iraq
BBC
January 18, 2006
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4624716.stm

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Hostage takers demanded on Tuesday that women be freed. Jill Carroll in a still from a video shown on al-Jazeera
 http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41227000/jpg/_41227816_hostagegrab_203.jpg

Map showing location of Iraq and Baghdad
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Hostage takers demanded on Tuesday that women be freed
Iraq's ministry of justice has told the BBC that six of the eight women being held by coalition forces in Iraq have been released early.

The six were freed because there was insufficient evidence to charge them, a justice ministry spokesman said.

The US forces have refused to confirm the releases, but say they would not be based on any operational activities.

The group holding US journalist Jill Carroll has said she will die unless all Iraqi women prisoners are freed.

The status of prisoners held by coalition forces is reviewed twice a week by a committee made up of the justice, human rights and interior ministries, and a representative of the US-led coalition.

The justice ministry spokesman said it was this committee which had studied the cases of the six women and found insufficient evidence against them.

However, the US military stressed that decisions over such matters were a detailed process that were unrelated to any other operational activity.

The demand that all Iraqi female prisoners held by coalition forces should be released was made in a video of Ms Carroll which aired on Arab TV channel al-Jazeera on Tuesday.

Her captors said the 28-year-old journalist would be killed within 72 hours if their demand was not met.

The video showed Ms Carroll apparently speaking to the camera, but did not include her voice.

Al-Jazeera did not say where it got the tape. The station itself has called for her release.

It was the first sighting of Ms Carroll since gunmen abducted her in Baghdad 10 days earlier, fatally wounding her translator during the attack.

Past demands

She is the 31st foreign journalist kidnapped in Iraq since the invasion almost three years ago, according to Reporters Sans Frontieres.

Ms Carroll has been a freelance reporter for the Christian Science Monitor newspaper, among others.

She had been reporting from the Middle East for Jordanian, Italian and other media organisations for the past three years, the Christian Science Monitor said in a statement.

The Monitor describes itself as a non-religious newspaper.

It is not the first time that the abductors of Western hostages in Iraq have called for the release of women prisoners.

In October 2004, Briton Ken Bigley and two American hostages were beheaded by members of al-Qaeda in Iraq, who had demanded female prisoners be freed.

At the time the Bush administration said that only two women were being held in Iraq - Huda Salih Mahdi Ammash, nicknamed by the US "Mrs Anthrax" and Rihab Taha, also known as "Dr Germ".

The pair were amongst a group of eight senior aides to former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein who were released in December 2005.

In November 2004, British aid worker Margaret Hassan was abducted and murdered in Iraq. Before her death she appeared in a similar hostage video calling for foreign troop withdrawals and the release of women prisoners.

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4624716.stm

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Given that Blair murdered a TV Station full of people, who here is suprised?

18.01.2006 19:14

Why is there even a debate on this subject. Before Blair's invasion of Iraq, the US military stated publically that any journalist operating in Iraq that was not directly under their control (remember, ALL BBC so-called journalists, and the vast majority of other British journalists operate under the direct control of US or UK military when in Iraq) would be a valid target. The lucky ones are just arrested and tortured by Israeli trained snatch squads. The less fortunate ones are murdered outright.

Blair DOES NOT hide his methods or purposes, any more than Hitler did. However, he invites those people who's mindsets empower him to pretend to themselves (against ALL the evidence, and the monster's own words) that things really aren't as bad as they seem. As for our PAID troll 'concerned', well consider today the MI5 operation to close down 'Fathers For Justice' or the embedded MI5 agent getting so much time on the BBC stating that 'fire-arms officers' will all give up their guns if the death squad that butchered that poor guy on the tube is prosecuted.

Why does Blair murder journalists NOT under his direct control? Well, what happens when you control the Mass Media Message, and have instant access to the vast majority of 'texts', emails and 'instant messages' that your people send to each other. Some of you would be well advised to read up on the theories of advertising, propaganda, and mind-control, and understand that when these books were written, there was NO way to properly monitor the consequences of such work when applied to populations. Today, electronic messages make 'mind-reading' possible, allowing a level of fine-tuning that means that those in power never have to worry about relinquishing it.

Consider the Conservative and Liberal elections. Blair and others KNOW day by day exactly what the eligible voters are communicating, if they are using electronic means. The chances of a non-Blair person winning thus approach zero.

By the way, in the UK, it is TOTALLY legal for Blair to monitor all our communications, providing this information is NOT used against individuals without specific warrant, or previous legal mechanism. The Black Propaganda debate you see in the Mass Media focusing on the 'tapping' of individuals is designed to prevent you from considering the true abuse. What is an election when one party has access to the daily thoughts of the potential voters, and can change their actions or messages on the basis of this information?

Once, people in the West considered that the definition of a police-state was the regime of a thuggish leader spying on as much of his population as possible. Today, there isn't a media outlet in the UK that dares deny that the people of the UK are the most spied upon in the history of the World. Tell me this, dear reader, do you REALLY think this has no great consequence or significance?

One of the great questions in life is "how did we get from there to here?". A better question is why we work so hard to convince ourselves that there is no real difference between 'there' and 'here'. Did you really think that all those terrible histories from Earth's past consisted of a bunch of people becoming total bastards in the way they thought about themselves and others? Today, if we are of the West (pretty much the whole of it) then we can accurately state "WE are the Nazis". Of course, years of conditioning means that people think that 'being a Nazi' will somehow feel differently from 'not being a Nazi'. Well, for those 'Nazis' whose main task is simple to give their mental support to their 'Nazi' leader, it doesn't feel different at all.

This 'lack' of difference is paramount. It is one thing to persuade a population to 'close their eyes'. It is quite another to actively require (in the early stages) people to be vile in their daily lives. Those that voice Blair's Mass Media Messages have a crucial job to do. Any media voice that refuses to serve Blair is in imminent danger of being silenced, and sometimes (and increasingly) that will mean the grave.

twilight


Kidnappers suck

18.01.2006 19:25

"While it might not be the US government that has kidnapped Jill Carroll they certainly won't be upset if she should end up dead!"

The basic problem is that giving in to kidnapper's demand will only get more people kidnapped.
The Germans rolled over an released aa prisoner who should have been imprisoned for life. Mohammed Ali Hamadi murdered a US Sailor during an airplane hijacking, thus gaining the release of a kidnapped German.
Instead of yielding to kidnapper's demands, a counter ultimatum should be offered. The kidnappers de jour want the release of female prisoners in Iraq. The Iraqi gov't should play the brutal game too. Threaten to execute the prisoners if the victim is not released.
The US government doesn't want anyone killed by kidnappers, nor does the US want to yield to their demands.
How are the CPT victims doing? Not a word about them.

Bill


Kid nappers

18.01.2006 22:28

Proper kidnappings like those of contract workers or generally of anyine involved in the occupation of Iraq are good and as long as they are done for means of ressistance to this war i agree with it. Those people have no right to be in there and make money out of the blood of Iraqis and the more that die the better. Bigley was a classic case and we need more Bigleys in Iraq dead. Kill them all.

IRAQI RESSISTANCE ALL THE WAY

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Resist the Resistence

19.01.2006 00:05

"Proper kidnappings like those of contract workers or generally of anyine involved in the occupation of Iraq are good and as long as they are done for means of ressistance to this war i agree with it."

Proper kidnappings!!!??
The next best thing to a proper beheading.
So a guy that's helping to get the water and elictricity is fair game by the bloody occupation? Nothing like shooting yourself in the foot.
The "resistence" isn't resisting occupation. They're resisting a government that includes shiites and kurds.

Bill


The Resistance

19.01.2006 01:25

Is resisting the multinationals who are in Iraq for 1 reason and that is to maximise their profits in a country which has so much to offer. As all war sticken countries do. Its resisting the 14 permanent US military bases built in the country. Its ressisting an election which didnt allow anti-occupation candidates to run, Its ressisting the western armies who bombed the shit out of the country, and are responsible for the deaths of over 100,000 people so far, (more than Saddam killed in 30 years). Yes there are some but only some (estimated i think at 3000 people which is tiny) in the ressistance who are there only for extremist religious purposes, but the vast majority is there as a liberation movement and all polls show that they have the support of the vast majority of the Iraqi people. If you cant understand that much then you're living on a different planet.

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Resist the Resistors

19.01.2006 18:33

"Yes there are some but only some (estimated i think at 3000 people which is tiny) in the ressistance who are there only for extremist religious purposes"

LOL!!! Only 3000 tiny Jihadis?
Those tiny fellows are the ones who are murdering Iraqis.

Bill


Yoo Hoo, Twilight

19.01.2006 22:48

"As for our PAID troll 'concerned'"


Okay Twiglike, Concerned may appear to be as niave as a 15 year old, but I've yet to see anything which suggests that he's a paid spook. Justify your accusation.

Your Pal


Hay Bill

19.01.2006 22:56

"The Iraqi gov't should play the brutal game too. Threaten to execute the prisoners if the victim is not released" - That makes you so much better than them.

Haidar


wow bill your so clever

20.01.2006 01:46

You got me!! 3000 people out of a ressistance estimated to be between 200-300,000 strong and growing is sooo much. Without them the resistance would only be 297,000 strong. Basically it would be so minor it could be crushed in a second.

I salute you bill for showing me the light

...!


If I'm nice to a black widow spider, she won't bite me

20.01.2006 15:40

""The Iraqi gov't should play the brutal game too. Threaten to execute the prisoners if the victim is not released" - That makes you so much better than them."

Don't just threaten. Follow through. It's not about who is better. That's a white man's thinking.
If the kidnappers want the release of certain prisoners, kill those prisoners if the hostages aren't rteleased.
It's very simple. That's how you deal with Arabs. Logic and being nicy nicy won't get you anywhere. Yielding to their bloody demands only encourages them and insures the kidnap of others.

Bill


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